Where do you think we go when we die?

[Red Dawn]

Very well said. I prefer just to live my life the best i can, and hope i don't get punished for it. It wouldn't really be fair if I did, would it? If you knew there was a hell and what the bad things are that send you there, then you could've avoided it. But if I don't really know, then I can't help but do the things, right? Unless I do really obvious things, like kill people. That one is kinda obvious.

@Andy
I wasn't correcting his spelling, I was mocking the fact that he was talking in leetspeak.

 

[coloratura]

I personally enjoy the idea of reincarnation. :] Do I know if it's true? No. But it'd be nice if it was - I'd love to view the world from a different perspective, see what the future holds.

I won't spend my life worrying about what the afterlife actually is - I'm just going to try to live the best life I possibly can, be a good person.

 

[PeteD2S]

It's not wonderful. If reincarnation existed, we are all the reincarnation of somebody that died, but if that is really true, we certainly don't remember. Well, what's so wonderful about reincarnation if you don't remember your past life? It's as if you are a brand new person.

 

[corporate @merica]

I Believe Strongly in God and the Good Afterlife(GA). In fact it is more than a Belief for me- it is Everything in Life and More. Everything I do in this Short Mortal Life(SML) (such as Joining this Forum at the behest of a Friend with a Similar Viewpoint(SV)) is to ensure that I will see the Glory of the Lord in Heaven and the GA when this SML ends.

As the great Scriptures tell Us, Our Job in this SML is to Enlighten Others to the Glory of God(GoG). I see a lot of Members here posting from the viewpoint of Atheism, Agnosticism or Apatheticism(all abbreviated together as A). For this Many Good Christians(GCs) would Becomes Upset, but I- being a true GC- feel Pity instead. I have the Sincere Hope that all of the As on this Forums will take my Message to Heart and- if not Convert- Consider the Possibility of the GoG.

 

[Venetia]

Before anyone embarrasses themselves by disagreeing with Corporate @merica, look at his(?) username real quick and how he(?)'s using acronyms for everything.

Then have yourself a little laugh and consider this preemptive spam control.

 

[corporate @merica]

Are you implying that I am a Spam Bot? Look, I'm Sorry if you don't like My Use of Acronyms (It comes from the People in My Church), but Take me Seriously nonetheless.

As for my Username, it is a little Comment on the Money- and Technology- driven State of the United States which seems to have Drifted from its Founding Focus of the GoG.

 

[PeteD2S]

/kickbanrape


I hate advertisers, even more religious advertisers.

 

[corporate @merica]

"I hate advertisers, even more religious advertisers."

I Thought that I stated Clearly that I wasn't trying to Convert Anybody- but to Open Their Minds to the Possibility that there is a Greater Truth(GT) beyond this SML.

I'm about to get Heated Defending myself and my Position in this- I'm going to Take a Few Hours Off and maybe Write some Fiction to Blow off some Steam before I Come back and Present my Viewpoint in More Detail.

 

[coloratura]

It's not wonderful. If reincarnation existed, we are all the reincarnation of somebody that died, but if that is really true, we certainly don't remember. Well, what's so wonderful about reincarnation if you don't remember your past life? It's as if you are a brand new person.

It's not wonderful, in your opinion - what you feel on reincarnation is completely subjective. The fact it's not wonderful to you doesn't mean that it might not be appealing to someone else. Get out of your box a little bit and try to see it from a different frame of reference - understanding other points of view is always very beneficial. I completely respect your opinion, but here's it from my frame of reference. :]

Now, when you're reincarnated, you're not the "reincarnation of someone who died" - the person who died was you! You're just put into another body. (There's even the Greek word part for 'flesh' in the word 'reincarnation' - it's about your 'soul' moving into a new body.) Your human and flesh body may die, but your soul always lives on.

It's not about remembering your past life - it's about being able to continue living, and go through new experiences and see new things you didn't do in your previous life/lives. Being a brand new person is half the fun! I really want to see what the future holds - it's a nice thought to think that I will be able to see it and experience things the world has to offer down the line.

Now, as to whether I believe in reincarnation, that's another story - but I think the idea of it is pretty nice! I mean, even if I came back as a carrot or a worm, it's just more things you can get the chance experience.

 

[$t3v0]

Spoiler

Room 1408 indicated an interesting theory. I'm going to say that because I don't really give a shit.

 

[potatokisser69]

im preety sure we get reincarnated in to a potato!!! then we become a bag of chips and later become to be a poop

 

[$t3v0]

Oh my god that's actually amazing. Did I say 1408?

 

[PeteD2S]

It's not wonderful, in your opinion - what you feel on reincarnation is completely subjective. The fact it's not wonderful to you doesn't mean that it might not be appealing to someone else. Get out of your box a little bit and try to see it from a different frame of reference - understanding other points of view is always very beneficial. I completely respect your opinion, but here's it from my frame of reference. :]

Now, when you're reincarnated, you're not the "reincarnation of someone who died" - the person who died was you! You're just put into another body. (There's even the Greek word part for 'flesh' in the word 'reincarnation' - it's about your 'soul' moving into a new body.) Your human and flesh body may die, but your soul always lives on.

It's not about remembering your past life - it's about being able to continue living, and go through new experiences and see new things you didn't do in your previous life/lives. Being a brand new person is half the fun! I really want to see what the future holds - it's a nice thought to think that I will be able to see it and experience things the world has to offer down the line.

Now, as to whether I believe in reincarnation, that's another story - but I think the idea of it is pretty nice! I mean, even if I came back as a carrot or a worm, it's just more things you can get the chance experience.

And you clearly fail to understand that the memory has 100% influence on the enjoyment of reincarnation. Just as someone that loses his memory, he is a new person, even if he was a criminal he may now want to be a policeman. UNLESS you reincarnate into an animal that has the capacity to store all the past life memories (not human), you can't enjoy reincarnation. Why? If you reincarnate to a non human animal, you won't be able to talk to humans, therefore, you can't prove reicarnation exists. If you reincarnate into humans, you surely don't remember the past life and won't enjoy the feeling of "living again". If you did remember the past life, we all knew we could reincarnate by now. Understood it now?

 

[Andy6000]

Before anyone embarrasses themselves by disagreeing with Corporate @merica, look at his(?) username real quick and how he(?)'s using acronyms for everything.

Then have yourself a little laugh and consider this preemptive spam control.

Listen to her and learn.

Also Pete don't get so worked up over this. S/he is describing a 'wouldn't it be cool' situation, not a 'this is how it is you faggot so you better start believing' situation, lighten up.

 

[coloratura]

And you clearly fail to understand that the memory has 100% influence on the enjoyment of reincarnation. Just as someone that loses his memory, he is a new person, even if he was a criminal he may now want to be a policeman. UNLESS you reincarnate into an animal that has the capacity to store all the past life memories (not human), you can't enjoy reincarnation. Why? If you reincarnate to a non human animal, you won't be able to talk to humans, therefore, you can't prove reicarnation exists. If you reincarnate into humans, you surely don't remember the past life and won't enjoy the feeling of "living again". If you did remember the past life, we all knew we could reincarnate by now. Understood it now?

You completely missed the point of my message. I understand your point as to why you wouldn't enjoy it, I'm just trying to present why someone might enjoy it, so you can see a broader range. Let me break it down into easy words/terms for you: just because you don't enjoy it doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't. There's a lot of different was that people think and feel about certain things.

How someone feels about reincarnation is completely up to them. Your opinion, that you would need memories to enjoy a past life, is completely subjective. Subjective means that it depends on the person - that it's not something that can be looked at objectively. To me, the fact you do not have any memories is the part that is refreshing and fun. It's a clean slate, a new start - you get to experience and react to things in a way that might not have been possible before.

As I said earlier, just because it's impossible for you to enjoy a concept of reincarnation because you would be without your memories, doesn't mean that is how everyone feels about it, or that people would be incapable of enjoying a new life without their memories. As I said, I would rather start my new life a clean slate - it would allow me to experience things or perceive the world in a different way I wouldn't be able to with my memories, since I'd already have perceptions/opinions from my other life.

I'd enjoy "living again" simply because I am alive - to me, it's not my memories that are important in keeping, it's just being able to continue on existing.

P.S.: Andy, I'm a she. :D

 

[Reives]

@Pete:
There is a difference in the term of enjoyment here. While I do know exactly what your train of thoughts are, it is different in its fundamental concepts from the quoted message's.

In this case, I believe what she is saying is the conceptual enjoyment - as in possessing the ideology of reincarnation in such a way that it's like a comforting device. Sure, in that case it won't be the you with your past memories that would be living the next life - which in terms of individuality, it is not really the "you" now. But however, the conceptual ideology of a non-physical origin of the individual being existent over an undefined period of time is still that of a comfort factor - and "enjoy life" as experienced by the non-physical "spirit" (for the lack of a better word that comes to mind) and not an active memory per-say.

And there was no mentioning of whether it actually exists or not, nor am I saying that here. So bringing that into question is shooting off-range. :>

 

[coloratura]

@Pete:
There is a difference in the term of enjoyment here. While I do know exactly what your train of thoughts are, it is different in its fundamental concepts from the quoted message's.

In this case, I believe what she is saying is the conceptual enjoyment - as in possessing the ideology of reincarnation in such a way that it's like a comforting device. Sure, in that case it won't be the you with your past memories that would be living the next life - which in terms of individuality, it is not really the "you" now. But however, the conceptual ideology of a non-physical origin of the individual being existent over an undefined period of time is still that of a comfort factor - and "enjoy" as experienced by the origin and not an active memory per-say.

And there was no mentioning of whether it exists or not, nor am I saying that here. So bringing that into question is shooting off-range. :>

Thank you Reives! n_n That is exactly what I was trying to say.
I have no idea whether reincarnation exists, either - I don't think I even particularly believe in it, I just think it's a fun and interesting concept. :D

 

[lunarea]

I see the erasing of memories to be an important part of reincarnation. We spend our entire lifetimes dealing with one thing or another, each creating the psychological and emotional baggage we carry around with us. Can you imagine how confusing and chaotic it would be if we carried that baggage across multiple lives? I can just see it getting to a point where so many memories and feelings are inside that you simply don't want to live anymore. But, of course, if you die - you go through the same cycle again. It sure sounds awful to me.

And what about our loved ones that have stayed behind? Obviously, they are going to mourn our passing. But can you imagine how confusing it would be to find out that your dear husband of 70 years is now a happy bouncing blond 6-month old girl?

Besides things we can only feel and do with our bodies, our physical self also gives us a unique perspective. Living a life as a man is different from living a life as a woman, or a cat, or a piece of seaweed. Lack of memories gives you the opportunity to experience each and every one of those without precedent and bias. And that's beautiful.

Note that I'm not pushing the idea of reincarnation onto anyone. I'm simply discussing the concept.

 

[shiroun]

I know it's old, but making another thread is bad.

I believe in the books made by Dante something.

The books were a trilogy,
34 pages in the first book, 33 in the 2nd and 3rd books, thus creating the holy number 100.

It was about the 3 main places you can go,
Heaven,
Purgatory,
Hell.

Heaven has 1 level, which is for people who did good in their lives.

Purgatory had 9(?) levels in it, which were for people who did wrong doings while alive, but were TRULY sorry for it.

Hell had 9 levels in it, starting at the 1st level which was from low crimes, such as hating other religions, or stealing.

All I remember from it for now though, is that level 6 was for suicidal people, who turned into trees that were picked at by birds, and it hurt them so, as punishment for hunting themselves.

The 9th level was all ice, people froze there, and it is said SATAN himself lived there.

I also believe it is possible that you go to a place relative to what you believe, and they all interlude.

Example: Chocolate-Cow believes he will just rot in a box for the rest of eternity, so he may end up that way forever.

I believe in another place, so I will go to a place that is relative to my life, which is therefore, probably level 1 of purgatory.

 

[Z-Magic]

Well I just tend to not really think about it because there isn't a right answer untill we die and find out what it is so.....yeah anyone could be right and anyone could be wrong Im christan but I still wonder about where I'll go if my religon is wrong