What's Your Mental Malfunction

[FlippyD]

perhaps you have some kind of mental malfunction that makes you obsessed about trying to prove everyone is lying. -.-

Oh c'mon, everyone in this thread doesn't have some kind of personality disorder. There's probably a few as I've said before, but nowadays everyone says they have some kind of disorder. That's ignorant and impossible. People might have tendencies that cause them to commit acts that they feel guilty or not right about afterwards, but that's what being a human is all about.

People with real mental illnesses aren't usually so quick to talk about it and how it's terrible for them or whatever. There's an argument to be made that with the anonymity of the internet there's more of a chance for a person with a serious illness to open up, but all of these people aren't mentally deficient, ill or inconvenienced in a serious and factual way.

I like questioning other people and using my iNtuitive Feeling Judging nature (so says Myers-Briggs) but that doesn't mean I have some disorder where I'm dissatisfied. It's a part of my personality, "active bullshit detector."

Seriously, how many close friends do you know with serious illnesses? How many? As in the kind that actually have to go to a doctor? The kind that have to take pills everyday just to fit in? The kind that don't get up on a pedestal every chance they get to tell you what's wrong with them. I don't know many leukemia patients out there that are just dying to tell me about what's wrong with them.

In my lifetime I've only known three people with serious mental conditions that have been affirmed by actual doctors and have, in turn had to take prescription drugs and regular visits to the psychiatrist in order to fix. One of those people is me, but I've been clinically cured since 4th grade. It's not something I'm proud of or like to march around advertising.

I think it stems from the idea that "everything would be right if only I weren't so crazy." I guess a lot of people like to blame their issues on some quirk of their personality. And if only they weren't so obsessed or apathetic everything would be right. It's a comfortable fallacy to live in. Plus, if you act like an idiot you can just blame it on your "mental illness."

This isn't to demean the few of you out there that do have serious conditions, but how many of you out there really do? And I mean something a licensed professional diagnosed you with. An issue you have to deal with everyday that has serious adverse affects on your life (not, "oh I went out and bought thirteen pairs of shoes because seeing the color red makes me 'kicky'. How terrible my foot-shoe-fetish is! Oh woe is me!")

 

[purplecyty]

Oh c'mon, everyone in this thread doesn't have some kind of personality disorder. There's probably a few as I've said before, but nowadays everyone says they have some kind of disorder. That's ignorant and impossible. People might have tendencies that cause them to commit acts that they feel guilty or not right about afterwards, but that's what being a human is all about.

People with real mental illnesses aren't usually so quick to talk about it and how it's terrible for them or whatever. There's an argument to be made that with the anonymity of the internet there's more of a chance for a person with a serious illness to open up, but all of these people aren't mentally deficient, ill or inconvenienced in a serious and factual way.

I like questioning other people and using my iNtuitive Feeling Judging nature (so says Myers-Briggs) but that doesn't mean I have some disorder where I'm dissatisfied. It's a part of my personality, "active bullshit detector."

Seriously, how many close friends do you know with serious illnesses? How many? As in the kind that actually have to go to a doctor? The kind that have to take pills everyday just to fit in? The kind that don't get up on a pedestal every chance they get to tell you what's wrong with them. I don't know many leukemia patients out there that are just dying to tell me about what's wrong with them.

In my lifetime I've only known three people with serious mental conditions that have been affirmed by actual doctors and have, in turn had to take prescription drugs and regular visits to the psychiatrist in order to fix. One of those people is me, but I've been clinically cured since 4th grade. It's not something I'm proud of or like to march around advertising.

I think it stems from the idea that "everything would be right if only I weren't so crazy." I guess a lot of people like to blame their issues on some quirk of their personality. And if only they weren't so obsessed or apathetic everything would be right. It's a comfortable fallacy to live in. Plus, if you act like an idiot you can just blame it on your "mental illness."

This isn't to demean the few of you out there that do have serious conditions, but how many of you out there really do? And I mean something a licensed professional diagnosed you with. An issue you have to deal with everyday that has serious adverse affects on your life (not, "oh I went out and bought thirteen pairs of shoes because seeing the color red makes me 'kicky'. How terrible my foot-shoe-fetish is! Oh woe is me!")

well maybe people feel comftorbale discussing their problems online where people wont know who they are and where people will give them respect instead of ridicule. And you come along and start sying everyone is fake. So what if people are fake, so what if everyone was fake. Just in case they werent which is a possibility and I believe many might not be fake you cant just start saying they're fake. I dont see how trying to prove a point is something so important however I do have (and as I say do have I mean that I go to yale childrens center or whataver the place is and I see a psychiatrist and am tested by a doctor there every two months and they diagnosed me with) (i also take respiradal, and concerta I dont even know what the respiradal is for or exactly how its spelled but I take concerta for adhd)oppossitional defiance disorder so if you have something similar to that or even just not even that but have symptoms of that I understand how you need to prove your point. However you're just not considering how other people here might just be honestly trying to get a load of their chest and you're running around calling them fake.

 

[Roman Candle]

Being a teenager invites any number of neuroses, tics, compulsions, temper problems. That doesn't mean you have a mental malfunction. It happens to everyone; everyone has to deal with it. To be diagnosed as having a condition, it has to be severe to the point where you cannot cope with it. And that doesn't mean it gets you down a bit, or you have to spend extra time dotting all the Is on your homework. To be diagnosed as compulsive, you actually have to be debilitated, because everyone has some level of compulsive tendancy. To be diagnosed as having tourette's, you do actually have to have a vocal, linguistic tic, which with others come up in long term cycles. I mean, I have clear compulsive difficulties which do affect the way I have to do things, but I wouldn't even nearly be diagnosed as having either tourette's or OCD, even though I have persistent sets of clear compulsions which rise and fall in cycles, as well as being highly obsessive. Because I don't have a linguistic tic, and my tics aren't actually ones which make it impossible to continue my daily life in a normal fashion, I would simply be said to be suffering from "A general compulsive disorder".

Half the things people have diagnosed themselves with in this thread are not even disorders. Being shy is not a disorder. Being a perfectionist is not a disorder. It's just being a person. If half the people who said they suffered from some form of OCD actually had a significantly more severe compuslive tendancy than the average person, it would be a pretty big suprise.

 

[Minkoff]

It's not that easy to differentiate between some stupid personal problem and a clinical one nowadays when everything is medicated. Depressed people and people who have trouble paying attention are told that it's a purely chemical problem to make them feel like they aren't personally responsible. The fact that a doctor says you have a problem doesn't mean that you actually do, and the fact that a doctor doesn't say you do doesn't mean you don't. A problem is defined by how it affects you, not whether or not some guy with a fancy degree tells you you have one. For me, my diagnosed problem is depression but it really doesn't bother me much during my day-to-day life. On the other hand, the fact that I've never worked a day in my life makes some of the simplest things excruciatingly difficult for me, yet THAT developmental fuckup isn't seen as a problem like a lack of attention or pessimism.

 

[FlippyD]

well maybe people feel comftorbale discussing their problems online where people wont know who they are and where people will give them respect instead of ridicule. And you come along and start sying everyone is fake. So what if people are fake, so what if everyone was fake. Just in case they werent which is a possibility and I believe many might not be fake you cant just start saying they're fake. I dont see how trying to prove a point is something so important however I do have (and as I say do have I mean that I go to yale childrens center or whataver the place is and I see a psychiatrist and am tested by a doctor there every two months and they diagnosed me with) (i also take respiradal, and concerta I dont even know what the respiradal is for or exactly how its spelled but I take concerta for adhd)oppossitional defiance disorder so if you have something similar to that or even just not even that but have symptoms of that I understand how you need to prove your point. However you're just not considering how other people here might just be honestly trying to get a load of their chest and you're running around calling them fake.

Ok, did you even read what I wrote? I mean, seriously. I'm not going out on a witch hunt and calling everyone fake. I'm meerely pointing to the fact that not everyone in this thread has a mental malfunction. I'm trying to stem the tide of people coming in here and saying "OCDonline.com says I want to stab my parents and eat my dog so there MUST be something wrong with me, lolol!!!11one"

If you actually, I don't know, read what I wrote you'd know I'm not calling everyone a fake. I know there are probably a few people in here that do have mental issues, but not all of them. And I'm tired of hearing people all over talk about what "mental issues" they have, when in reality they're just amplifying whatever tiny issue they have in their life to make themselves sound more important or interesting, or to blame their own shortcomings on some chemical imbalance they've prescribed themselves with. If you don't understand what I'm writing about then try reading Roman Candle's post, he's saying the same things as me, albeit in a lighter manner. Don't go out debating me if you don't want to bother reading what I wrote.

Heck, I don't even understand half of your post. It's full of run-on sentences and fragments. I get the gist of what you're trying to say. You're defending people in the thread who do have clinical issues and somehow exclaiming about how I'm dragging people down or whatever, which I'm not. In a way, you're arguing with me and agreeing to what I've already said (somewhat.) But let's get real, everyone here doesn't have some issue. Some do, most don't. In the 22 years I've been on this God-forsaken rock I've heard far too many people talk about their own "personal mental issues" to seriously believe every two-bit sob story I hear (and I go to an art school, that doesn't help things a lick.)

So please, while it sounds like you may have an actual factual mental debilitation, not everyone here is in the same boat as you. That's all.

It's not that easy to differentiate between some stupid personal problem and a clinical one nowadays when everything is medicated. Depressed people and people who have trouble paying attention are told that it's a purely chemical problem to make them feel like they aren't personally responsible. The fact that a doctor says you have a problem doesn't mean that you actually do, and the fact that a doctor doesn't say you do doesn't mean you don't. A problem is defined by how it affects you, not whether or not some guy with a fancy degree tells you you have one. For me, my diagnosed problem is depression but it really doesn't bother me much during my day-to-day life. On the other hand, the fact that I've never worked a day in my life makes some of the simplest things excruciatingly difficult for me, yet THAT developmental fuckup isn't seen as a problem like a lack of attention or pessimism.

I beg to disagree. It is easy. I know a guy with tourette's and my roomate has ADHD. They both take medication for their issues. When my roomate doesn't take his medication we can tell. There's is a profound difference in his behavior. His hyperactivity and impulsiveness completely contrasts his more calm cerebral nature after he's taken his medication. My friend with tourette's takes his medication in time everyday to ensure he has no trouble speaking with people (he works at a bar, where he has to deal with people on a daily basis.) If he doesn't take his medication he'll have problems at his job and could be fired.

A girl I know who diagnosed herself with depression because her boyfriend left her over the summer DOES NOT suffer from a mental disability. She just can't get over the fact that her clingyness and obsessive nature is what drove him away. She has enough self-control to not be so obsessive, but she doesn't care. She does whatever the hell she wants and blames it on some made-up issue she read on the news.

It's not hard to tell the two apart. If it sounds like BS, it probably is. I can tell the difference between someone suffering from a real issue and some melodramatic affidavit born from superstition, the internet and second-hand wives's tails.

 

[ScriptKitty]

I'm a homebody, I dislike people in general, and I avoid engaging in social situations more than once a week. Dunno if that's a malfunction or just me being a young hermit.

 

[purplecyty]

Ok, did you even read what I wrote? I mean, seriously. I'm not going out on a witch hunt and calling everyone fake. I'm meerely pointing to the fact that not everyone in this thread has a mental malfunction. I'm trying to stem the tide of people coming in here and saying "OCDonline.com says I want to stab my parents and eat my dog so there MUST be something wrong with me, lolol!!!11one"

If you actually, I don't know, read what I wrote you'd know I'm not calling everyone a fake. I know there are probably a few people in here that do have mental issues, but not all of them. And I'm tired of hearing people all over talk about what "mental issues" they have, when in reality they're just amplifying whatever tiny issue they have in their life to make themselves sound more important or interesting, or to blame their own shortcomings on some chemical imbalance they've prescribed themselves with. If you don't understand what I'm writing about then try reading Roman Candle's post, he's saying the same things as me, albeit in a lighter manner. Don't go out debating me if you don't want to bother reading what I wrote.

Heck, I don't even understand half of your post. It's full of run-on sentences and fragments. I get the gist of what you're trying to say. You're defending people in the thread who do have clinical issues and somehow exclaiming about how I'm dragging people down or whatever, which I'm not. In a way, you're arguing with me and agreeing to what I've already said (somewhat.) But let's get real, everyone here doesn't have some issue. Some do, most don't. In the 22 years I've been on this God-forsaken rock I've heard far too many people talk about their own "personal mental issues" to seriously believe every two-bit sob story I hear (and I go to an art school, that doesn't help things a lick.)

So please, while it sounds like you may have an actual factual mental debilitation, not everyone here is in the same boat as you. That's all.





I beg to disagree. It is easy. I know a guy with tourette's and my roomate has ADHD. They both take medication for their issues. When my roomate doesn't take his medication we can tell. There's is a profound difference in his behavior. His hyperactivity and impulsiveness completely contrasts his more calm cerebral nature after he's taken his medication. My friend with tourette's takes his medication in time everyday to ensure he has no trouble speaking with people (he works at a bar, where he has to deal with people on a daily basis.) If he doesn't take his medication he'll have problems at his job and could be fired.

A girl I know who diagnosed herself with depression because her boyfriend left her over the summer DOES NOT suffer from a mental disability. She just can't get over the fact that her clingyness and obsessive nature is what drove him away. She has enough self-control to not be so obsessive, but she doesn't care. She does whatever the hell she wants and blames it on some made-up issue she read on the news.

It's not hard to tell the two apart. If it sounds like BS, it probably is. I can tell the difference between someone suffering from a real issue and some melodramatic affidavit born from superstition, the internet and second-hand wives's tails.

so what let people believe they have mental malfunctions. And when you generalize on most people being "fake" you never really specify who you are saying is fake so people with real issues can get offended that you're just calling most everyone fake and they dont know if you mean them or not since some issues may sound fake but be real. It just as insulting as walking into a room and saying most people are probally gay, thats basically a shot at anyone that is in that room even if you dont intend to imply that about them. And the thing is you keep saying that most people dont have mental malfunctions and stuff, once would be enough but more than once is just on and on. We get the point you dont believe anyone ok but you're going overboard -.- If you're tired about hearing people discuss their mental malfunctions real or not, than just dont come here to this thread thats what this thread is about. You're just getting yourself worked up over stupid shit. I doupt its that you dont understand me, you just dont choose to understand me and I understand your perfectly, I just dont choose to agree

 

[Brimstone-x]

I believe I have ADHD, and also, slight anger problems from playing video games too much.

 

[Minkoff]

I beg to disagree. It is easy. I know a guy with tourette's and my roomate has ADHD. They both take medication for their issues. When my roomate doesn't take his medication we can tell. There's is a profound difference in his behavior. His hyperactivity and impulsiveness completely contrasts his more calm cerebral nature after he's taken his medication. My friend with tourette's takes his medication in time everyday to ensure he has no trouble speaking with people (he works at a bar, where he has to deal with people on a daily basis.) If he doesn't take his medication he'll have problems at his job and could be fired.

It's not hard to tell the two apart. If it sounds like BS, it probably is. I can tell the difference between someone suffering from a real issue and some melodramatic affidavit born from superstition, the internet and second-hand wives's tails.

You can tell the difference between when anyone takes medication and when they don't. Before I had depression, I was taking Prozac for reasons unrelated to depression. It really changed my personality a lot and people noticed. A friend of mine was diagnosed with ADHD when he was pretty young. Before, he was full of energy, happy, thin, and slept well. After he started taking medication, he developed depression and insomnia and gained a bunch of weight. Now he has to take all sorts of stuff just to stay functional, all because some doctor decided he needed to be medicated instead of disciplined when he was a kid. You must not have alot of friends with depression or ADHD, because if you did you would know that it's wildly overdiagnosed. Most people would probably do better in therapy than on drugs.

 

[Roman Candle]

purplecyty: No, most of what you say doesn't really make sense. And I don't think ixis is the one who keeps dragging this argument back up - you're more the one who keeps agressivley persuing it. By the way, saying "most people in here do not have a condition" is more like walking into a room and saying "most people in this room are straight". Because most people don't have a condition, but most people are not gay. Saying "most people are exaggerating" also means "some people are not exaggerating". Everyone who has a problem, (except you, apparently), should know that they fall into that second group on their own. You said you have 'oppositional defiance disorder'? Well, no shit. I wouldn't have thought that at all, given how passively and reasonablely you corrospond.

 

[purplecyty]

purplecyty: No, most of what you say doesn't really make sense. And I don't think ixis is the one who keeps dragging this argument back up - you're more the one who keeps agressivley persuing it. By the way, saying "most people in here do not have a condition" is more like walking into a room and saying "most people in this room are straight". Because most people don't have a condition, but most people are not gay. Saying "most people are exaggerating" also means "some people are not exaggerating". Everyone who has a problem, (except you, apparently), should know that they fall into that second group on their own. You said you have 'oppositional defiance disorder'? Well, no shit. I wouldn't have thought that at all, given how passively and reasonablely you corrospond.

I didnt understand half of what you said -.-

 

[catalyst]

I'm personally trying to stay off of the meds. I do regular therapy, specialized diet, exercise, and I'm taking Omega-3 when I'm not eating a lot of fish, since it's been proven to have an affect as a stabilizer. You can always tell if I'm off my diet and not taking the Omega-3. No one likes being around me. I had friends abandon me until I got under control.

Edit: now that I'm not being rushed out the door, that didn't mean to sound like a defense. I was just rushed. But yes, if there truly are only a few that have mental disorders on the board, I'm one of few. Either way, I'm at least one person who has them. We're still experimenting with various types of jobs to see what level of stress I can withstand. I'm really hoping that I can work and support my family, like I've been wanting. I don't want to be on permanent disability. Not that I'm really arguing "free" cash, but I'd feel cheap and lousy if I couldn't bring in a steady, hard-earned paycheck.

 

[FlippyD]

You can tell the difference between when anyone takes medication and when they don't. Before I had depression, I was taking Prozac for reasons unrelated to depression. It really changed my personality a lot and people noticed. A friend of mine was diagnosed with ADHD when he was pretty young. Before, he was full of energy, happy, thin, and slept well. After he started taking medication, he developed depression and insomnia and gained a bunch of weight. Now he has to take all sorts of stuff just to stay functional, all because some doctor decided he needed to be medicated instead of disciplined when he was a kid. You must not have alot of friends with depression or ADHD, because if you did you would know that it's wildly overdiagnosed. Most people would probably do better in therapy than on drugs.

I'm on the fence about whether or not mental conditions are over diagnosed or not. I don't think it's an issue of over diagnosis, I think it's an issue of too many people being diagnosed with an issue that may not be that severe (which is what you're saying.)

This mass diagnosis is another issue that I feel leads into, and perpetuates threads like this, discussions where people spill out all their purported "troubles" on the table like an elaborate card game of some kind.

I didnt understand half of what you said

May I suggest then, you stop debating with people? If you don't understand what people are talking about then just let it go, ok?

 

[purplecyty]

I'm on the fence about whether or not mental conditions are over diagnosed or not. I don't think it's an issue of over diagnosis, I think it's an issue of too many people being diagnosed with an issue that may not be that severe (which is what you're saying.)

This mass diagnosis is another issue that I feel leads into, and perpetuates threads like this, discussions where people spill out all their purported "troubles" on the table like an elaborate card game of some kind.





May I suggest then, you stop debating with people? If you don't understand what people are talking about then just let it go, ok?

than I suggest you do the same since you claimed to not understand me

 

[FlippyD]

than I suggest you do the same since you claimed to not understand me

Right... No reason for you to start a flame war and further drive the thread off-topic. I might have said I don't understand what you were writing about (and it's easy to understand due to your aversion to proper grammar) but at least I made an attempt to further the conversation.

Back on topic, has anyone in this thread been diagnosed by an actual psichiatrist, and to what extent (if any) have you been involved with medication?

 

[purplecyty]

Right... No reason for you to start a flame war and further drive the thread off-topic. I might have said I don't understand what you were writing about (and it's easy to understand due to your aversion to proper grammar) but at least I made an attempt to further the conversation.

Back on topic, has anyone in this thread been diagnosed by an actual psichiatrist, and to what extent (if any) have you been involved with medication?

I'm not flaming you just because you dont agree with what I say doesnt mean its a flame. I was derogatorry and I'm doing the best I can with my grammar so you might as well say that was a "flame" too (which it wasnt). now about being on topic yes I was diagnosed (oh and now you're trying to be nicerer to everyone>>)with adhd and oppositional defiance disorder and some other shit and yes I take medication I take concerta and respiradal and some other medication (other meaning drugs and medication meaning non prescribed if you know what I mean if you know what I mean meaning street drugs and codiene )

 

[catalyst]

Right... No reason for you to start a flame war and further drive the thread off-topic. I might have said I don't understand what you were writing about (and it's easy to understand due to your aversion to proper grammar) but at least I made an attempt to further the conversation.

Back on topic, has anyone in this thread been diagnosed by an actual psichiatrist, and to what extent (if any) have you been involved with medication?

As mentioned before, I prefer to avoid medication and go with behavioral therapy as well as natural solutions, but it was my psychiatrist who suggested I start with fish and fish oil as a method of control for my bipolar disorder. They aren't doing anything about the multiple personalities because it hasn't been disruptive in my life in the last three or four years, even if it's slightly annoying. My biggest issue was always the bipolar disorder so they feel that with that under control, I should do fine. I also developed so many coping methods to get it under control and helped my husband understand and help with my disorder, so the therapist had very little advice for me, and has taken his primary stance as to keep an eye on things, track my progress, and discuss issues in my past to resolve issues I have with nightmares. Which I think is doing pretty good, because today in a nap I saw light in a dream for the first time in 13 years. ^_^

 

[Krank The Tank]

In regards as to what Roman Candle just said, some people honestly believe that self-diagnosing themselves with mental/physical disorders is cool. Most of the time you attempt to justify your behaviour by contributing it to actual medical conditions. In reality it has absolutely nothing to do with any sort of typical or atypical disorder. This is what we like to call "hypochondria".

I'm pretty sure I suffer paranoia. When it's late and I go up to bed, I get this feeling like there's someone on my tail, or there should be, and I run like crazy up the stairs and keep my back to the wall going to my room. And when I walk down the street alone I always look over my shoulder and wonder if the kid up ahead of me on the way to school is gonna kick my ass. Or if the guy who looked at me a little longer than normal is gonna track me down and kill me or do something to me.

 

[Roman Candle]

I get that; I don't think it's paranoia. I mean, if it was incredibly strong, maybe. I've had a couple of times when I've thought I've heard people opening the doors really late at night, and ended up sitting huddled on the sofa instead of actually moving to go to my bedroom - but I think that's just me being a scardycat ^_^

 

[catalyst]

Paranoia:

Paranoia is an excessive anxiety or fear concerning one's own well-being which is considered irrational and excessive, perhaps to the point of being a psychosis. This typically includes persecutory beliefs concerning a likely threat, or a belief in a conspiracy theory.

More recently, the clinical use of the term has been used to describe delusions where the affected person believes they are being persecuted. Specifically, they have been defined as containing two central elements:

1. The individual thinks that harm is occurring, or is going to occur, to him or her.
2. The individual thinks that the persecutor has the intention to cause harm.

Paranoia is often associated with psychotic illnesses, particularly schizophrenia, although attenuated features may be present in other primarily non-psychotic diagnoses, such as paranoid personality disorder.

Indicative of a mental disorder, though in itself not a disorder. Paranoid Personality Disorder is pretty extreme, too.

Spoiler: DSM-IV-TR: Paranoid Personality Disorder, via Wikipedia

The DSM-IV-TR, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines paranoid personality disorder as a cluster A personality disorder (along with schizoid personality disorder (301.20) and schizotypal personality disorder (301.22)):

* 301.00 Paranoid Personality Disorder

A. A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:

1. suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her
2. is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates
3. is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her
4. reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events
5. persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or slights
6. perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack
7. has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding fidelity of spouse or sexual partner.

B. Does not occur exclusively during the course of schizophrenia, a mood disorder with psychotic features, or another psychotic disorder and is not due to the direct physiological effects of a general medical condition.