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Soul Reaver 1: Nocturne Gospel
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Well, then I have to put more effort to make something that won't make much sense.Chimmy Ray":2eg9hf9o said:
:X Thanks . . .Luminier":2eg9hf9o said:
lolArbiter":2eg9hf9o said:
They're credited. Even in the Character's Profile the Company's Logo appears since others keep asking if I made them when I credited. "Not everyone reads the Credits lately"Dr. Jekyll":2eg9hf9o said:
Um... Surely you can think of a better name for that sort of thing than a Soul Rave. :x
The SOUL part makes sense, but I don't understand what's so RAVEy about it. It's just, uh, nonsense. This is the same problem I have with a lot of the other stuff in this game -- it's designed to look cool, but there's no substance behind it.
I'd personally suggest Ghost Furnace or something like that which actually alludes to the machine's purpose, but then again, I have a fetish for the word "ghost," so you should maybe think it over a little bit yourself.
Also, if story is supposed to be your main focus, I implore you to work on your grammar and delivery.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2900 ... 434wz5.png[/img]
A: People do not say "ampersand" when they speak. When writing dialogue, you want to make sure that the lines are exactly the way the character would say them out loud -- it helps keep your lines from feeling awkward and forced. For this reason, symbols are a bad idea in dialogue. And why are their names italicized? Generally that means that the speaker is putting emphasis on the words -- coming out of someone's mouth, it doesn't seem natural to emphasize two names mid-way through a sentence.
B: "You know very well that Fatima and Theresa cannot remove it, and very much stop me" makes no sense. It's pretty bad, as sentences go. I can tell roughly what he's trying to say, but the sentence itself does a crappy job of conveying it. It sounds awkward, nonsensical, and nothing like actual dialogue. A better alternative might be "I'm sure you know that Fatima and Theresa have no chance of removing it. They can't stop me," but that's a quick sucky reinterpretation and you shouldn't use it -- just sit down and rethink your dialogue. Saying it to yourself under your breath helps a great deal, because you can actually hear the way the words would flow if someone was speaking them, and therefore catch awkward or wrong-sounding lines.
C: This is unrelated to your dialogue, but do something about the "ring of light." I understand how it works from an overhead view (symbolizing a very dark room,) but with the larger pictures thrown in it seems off. If you could place those pictures above the one that creates the ring of light, it'd work wonders.
Also, your "dark" scenes are way too blue. In my experience, even the brightest of nights have a more neutral color scheme than the one you're portraying -- since it's dark enough to resrrict visibility enough that a "ring of light" is necessary, you should maybe change the colours around so that it doesn't seem like there are mood lights everywhere.
Way to completely misunderstand what I was saying. :x
The SOUL part makes sense, but I don't understand what's so RAVEy about it. It's just, uh, nonsense. This is the same problem I have with a lot of the other stuff in this game -- it's designed to look cool, but there's no substance behind it.
I'd personally suggest Ghost Furnace or something like that which actually alludes to the machine's purpose, but then again, I have a fetish for the word "ghost," so you should maybe think it over a little bit yourself.
Also, if story is supposed to be your main focus, I implore you to work on your grammar and delivery.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2900 ... 434wz5.png[/img]
A: People do not say "ampersand" when they speak. When writing dialogue, you want to make sure that the lines are exactly the way the character would say them out loud -- it helps keep your lines from feeling awkward and forced. For this reason, symbols are a bad idea in dialogue. And why are their names italicized? Generally that means that the speaker is putting emphasis on the words -- coming out of someone's mouth, it doesn't seem natural to emphasize two names mid-way through a sentence.
B: "You know very well that Fatima and Theresa cannot remove it, and very much stop me" makes no sense. It's pretty bad, as sentences go. I can tell roughly what he's trying to say, but the sentence itself does a crappy job of conveying it. It sounds awkward, nonsensical, and nothing like actual dialogue. A better alternative might be "I'm sure you know that Fatima and Theresa have no chance of removing it. They can't stop me," but that's a quick sucky reinterpretation and you shouldn't use it -- just sit down and rethink your dialogue. Saying it to yourself under your breath helps a great deal, because you can actually hear the way the words would flow if someone was speaking them, and therefore catch awkward or wrong-sounding lines.
C: This is unrelated to your dialogue, but do something about the "ring of light." I understand how it works from an overhead view (symbolizing a very dark room,) but with the larger pictures thrown in it seems off. If you could place those pictures above the one that creates the ring of light, it'd work wonders.
Also, your "dark" scenes are way too blue. In my experience, even the brightest of nights have a more neutral color scheme than the one you're portraying -- since it's dark enough to resrrict visibility enough that a "ring of light" is necessary, you should maybe change the colours around so that it doesn't seem like there are mood lights everywhere.
Way to completely misunderstand what I was saying. :x
My grammar is horrible then .___. I meant that I would have to work harder so it can well, break those inuendos & expectations as you spoke of.
I was actually trying to make the character's faces dissapear or not looking completely. But it throws the player's perspective if that's what I can understand :x
Then I should work out the dialogue. :x
Thanks.
I was actually trying to make the character's faces dissapear or not looking completely. But it throws the player's perspective if that's what I can understand :x
Then I should work out the dialogue. :x
Thanks.
Dr. Jekyll":2ijddvlg said:
The link to the game the art is taken from is posted on like page 1.
Meh, i know people are lazy, so here it is again: http://www.xuse.co.jp/product/narukana/
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Dr. Jekyll":2lbfvqag said:
It's Seinarukana ~ Spirit of Eternity Sword 2. It's actually a really fun SRPG. Except it has a visual novel story tacked on, along with all the usual VN...'elements'.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImYCwDsO ... EB&index=0
My work here is done.
I'm a busy person, like many other netizens, so I don't have time to go through everything about every game ever made. I take a look at the name of the game, screenshots and the tagline before making a decision to invest more time into reading about it.
This is why game titles, taglines and first impressions are so important. I haven't been reading up on everything about this game and the criticism (and I could care less if the art was stolen, I'm just interested in seeing Jatzieta and some of the other girls nakkers.)
To Keinaru, I'd suggest choosing a more unique name than what you have. Something different, but not short and pretentious or long and confusing like just about every other game posted in this board.
Also: A tagline, front and center. Best to aim for something concise and sensible (it's ok if they're a little cheesy too.) Best tagline? The Iron Giant: "What if a gun had a soul?"
This is why game titles, taglines and first impressions are so important. I haven't been reading up on everything about this game and the criticism (and I could care less if the art was stolen, I'm just interested in seeing Jatzieta and some of the other girls nakkers.)
To Keinaru, I'd suggest choosing a more unique name than what you have. Something different, but not short and pretentious or long and confusing like just about every other game posted in this board.
Also: A tagline, front and center. Best to aim for something concise and sensible (it's ok if they're a little cheesy too.) Best tagline? The Iron Giant: "What if a gun had a soul?"
is it just me or does no one care someone 6upple posted?
but oh well, not worth the effort.
this thread is getting spammed like hell people, half of the posts aren't even crits anymore, thats excluding the so called girl posts up there at the top.
feels like alot of people are bored for no reason
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huh, so missing no was a girl? oh well, still a load annoying of spam.
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and I'm still kinda dissapointed no one commented on the intro... oh well, I'm not pouting or anything...
(you didn't see this link)
but oh well, not worth the effort.
this thread is getting spammed like hell people, half of the posts aren't even crits anymore, thats excluding the so called girl posts up there at the top.
feels like alot of people are bored for no reason
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huh, so missing no was a girl? oh well, still a load annoying of spam.
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and I'm still kinda dissapointed no one commented on the intro... oh well, I'm not pouting or anything...
(you didn't see this link)
Actually, the spam seems to be in the minority here. Most of the posts are legitimate, well-worded criticism -- aside from the whole issue of the title saying "Baves," there's very little here in the way of spam. Excluding the "Baves" stuff, there really isn't any.
Bottom line, don't call posts spam just because they're not filled with shining praise.
And actually I think that was a triple post. Quadruple I think? Iunno. You're talking about Ms. No, correct?
heh, alright, then I'll remake it after having read it for 5 mins, it's still mostly nonsensical stupid picking that's mostly the result of boredom as far as I can tell, but only as far as I can tell, but hey, maybe I can't tell anything, I'm bored with your posts already.
and thats not even including the post that was just above me, which I can't find anything "legitimate, well-worded criticism" about, but then again, I can't be bothered to scroll up to another post above it either.
and since I don't want to be a total ass, I don't see a problem with names that don't seems to make much sense, final fantasy was nothing more than a joke name, and I love it. If a name is just cool for the purpose of sounding cool, I'm just big enough of a sucker to fall for it and click, becuase personally I just get attracted to things that were meant to attract.
and thats not even including the post that was just above me, which I can't find anything "legitimate, well-worded criticism" about, but then again, I can't be bothered to scroll up to another post above it either.
and since I don't want to be a total ass, I don't see a problem with names that don't seems to make much sense, final fantasy was nothing more than a joke name, and I love it. If a name is just cool for the purpose of sounding cool, I'm just big enough of a sucker to fall for it and click, becuase personally I just get attracted to things that were meant to attract.
.____. Honestly, this is going ridiculous, you come & brag about the title, the use of Ripped Anime Portraits & such with ending the Title.
Ming, wether or not, I know many wouldn't like it. It was expected.
I see no further reason why to keep discussing, changing the title will not be posible, ot without Hanzo.
Furthermore . . . . I like the Opening, but I believe Ming that the quality hown in Youtube, makes it hard to talk about in my opinion . . .Not to mention I have bee sorta waiting for you a long time to get on. >__>;;
Ming, wether or not, I know many wouldn't like it. It was expected.
I see no further reason why to keep discussing, changing the title will not be posible, ot without Hanzo.
Furthermore . . . . I like the Opening, but I believe Ming that the quality hown in Youtube, makes it hard to talk about in my opinion . . .Not to mention I have bee sorta waiting for you a long time to get on. >__>;;
I don't understand why you're both so opposed to the posts I'm making. As far as I can tell I haven't said anything outright flamey (and if I have I apologize wholeheartedly,) and the things I raised are actually legitimate points which affect a game's overall quality.
I'm sorry if you find my wording reprehensible (I was in a MARKEDLY BAD MOOD two days ago so I can't be sure that anything I said doesn't have pure meanness lurking down somewhere,) but everything I addressed to you (the one-or-two-line posts were in reply to what other people were saying about the game, and were not actual criticism -- hell, they were probably pretty close to spam) was an actual concern of mine, and was stated with the intention of helping you to improve the final product. Again, I apologize if I said it in a rather pissed-off way (and I might have,) but please recognize that my intention is not to flame you, it's to offer criticism.
You want me to stop "nitpicking?" Alright. I don't see how the game's graphics and dialogue in their entirety can be "nitpicked," but if you'd tell me what's more important, I'd gladly address that instead.
You want me to stop "arguing?" Actually, it kind of hurts my feelings that you think I'm trolling you. I hate it when people mistake criticism for trolling, or just hate to hear anything bad about their games. The "Baves" thing was trolling. This is not. Again, everything I say here I say honestly and will the intent of helping the final product be a good one, but if you want to stop hearing "arguments," that can be arranged as well.
Sorry for bothering you, Gov'na. I'll be on my way now.
I'm sorry if you find my wording reprehensible (I was in a MARKEDLY BAD MOOD two days ago so I can't be sure that anything I said doesn't have pure meanness lurking down somewhere,) but everything I addressed to you (the one-or-two-line posts were in reply to what other people were saying about the game, and were not actual criticism -- hell, they were probably pretty close to spam) was an actual concern of mine, and was stated with the intention of helping you to improve the final product. Again, I apologize if I said it in a rather pissed-off way (and I might have,) but please recognize that my intention is not to flame you, it's to offer criticism.
You want me to stop "nitpicking?" Alright. I don't see how the game's graphics and dialogue in their entirety can be "nitpicked," but if you'd tell me what's more important, I'd gladly address that instead.
You want me to stop "arguing?" Actually, it kind of hurts my feelings that you think I'm trolling you. I hate it when people mistake criticism for trolling, or just hate to hear anything bad about their games. The "Baves" thing was trolling. This is not. Again, everything I say here I say honestly and will the intent of helping the final product be a good one, but if you want to stop hearing "arguments," that can be arranged as well.
Sorry for bothering you, Gov'na. I'll be on my way now.
Excuse me, but I am failing to see what art was stolen here. I can't remember seeing anywhere in the credits Caro claiming the she or one of her associates made the graphics. Ever heard of "fair use"? She isn't even required to credit the "stolen" art as long as she is not seeling the game commercially. In that case she would need to pay the owners for the rights to use their artwork of course. And as I can see, she gave a link to the site where she got the artwork from. That is actually more than sufficient.
Those were 6 posts one after another:
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 10#p504710
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 14#p504714
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 15#p504715
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 15#p504715
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 16#p504716
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 17#p504717
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 18#p504718
In fact, that member (I won't say "he" xD) had a double post just before as well (the first one likely being SPAM):
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 97#p504697
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 99#p504699
I believe that Caro is right with believing her topic turning into spam and going offtopic.
SPAM posts:
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 88#p467988
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 33#p504833
Going offtopic posts:
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 82#p413582
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 84#p415284 (even including an insult)
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 22#p415322
Especially the posts about the title looking like "Soul Baves". Should once be enough? It does look like a B on first sight, but it looks like an R when taking a closer look. I don't think it's fair to harass the game maker repeatedly with the same criticism.
Sure, discussing the game's style is ok (things like being able to date team members). In fact, even a porn game is ok (there are more out there than you think). But insulting the creator because the game is the way it was made is wrong. If you don't like a porn game or game with adult content, why are you even playing it? Why are you even reading this topic? Why do you even care to reply? Would you post in a topic about an FPS if you didn't like FPSes? No.
Criticism is fine (yes, Caro, your grammar is horrible xD), but insulting and wrong (and obviously unfounded) accusation of theft isn't. I thought RMXP.org bans people for the smallest violations. I've seen people getting banned for much smaller violations of the rules than this.
Also, Caro, you are allowed to use CRLS as you are active on other sites, too.
And don't forget, the license is protecting your game as well since it can be considered a mod of the original work which is allowed.
Have a nice day.
EDIT: I forgot to say: Caro, fix the title. :D
Those were 6 posts one after another:
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 10#p504710
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 14#p504714
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 15#p504715
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 15#p504715
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 16#p504716
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 17#p504717
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 18#p504718
In fact, that member (I won't say "he" xD) had a double post just before as well (the first one likely being SPAM):
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 97#p504697
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 99#p504699
I believe that Caro is right with believing her topic turning into spam and going offtopic.
SPAM posts:
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 88#p467988
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 33#p504833
Going offtopic posts:
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 82#p413582
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 84#p415284 (even including an insult)
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/http://dev.r ... 22#p415322
Especially the posts about the title looking like "Soul Baves". Should once be enough? It does look like a B on first sight, but it looks like an R when taking a closer look. I don't think it's fair to harass the game maker repeatedly with the same criticism.
Sure, discussing the game's style is ok (things like being able to date team members). In fact, even a porn game is ok (there are more out there than you think). But insulting the creator because the game is the way it was made is wrong. If you don't like a porn game or game with adult content, why are you even playing it? Why are you even reading this topic? Why do you even care to reply? Would you post in a topic about an FPS if you didn't like FPSes? No.
Criticism is fine (yes, Caro, your grammar is horrible xD), but insulting and wrong (and obviously unfounded) accusation of theft isn't. I thought RMXP.org bans people for the smallest violations. I've seen people getting banned for much smaller violations of the rules than this.
Also, Caro, you are allowed to use CRLS as you are active on other sites, too.
And don't forget, the license is protecting your game as well since it can be considered a mod of the original work which is allowed. Have a nice day.
EDIT: I forgot to say: Caro, fix the title. :D
You shouldn't have to take a second look at a logo. It defeats the purpose of a logo.
i agree that the "lol stolen art" stuff is total bullshit. What people are criticizing when they mention the art is that generic anime art looks bad in general. it isn't YOUR project and they aren't YOUR characters if you're just swiping the art from another project.