Post What's on Your Mind

[Hybrida]

Eventually hatred will build. Imagine not being able to communicate with your neighbors, now imagine the entire neighborhood speaking everything except English. I thought I was in America.

It's way worse for me. I'm just glad I'm not poor, and don't have to deal with those people unless I want to.

 

[Xilef]

You can't understand shit. It's like dealing with aliens, real aliens. Imagine a country where non English speaking people can get more benefits than the native english people. They don't have to learn English. They even have their own stores where you can't understand anything.

I can understand 100%, I'm living in London it's a miracle if there's another white person on my local busses.

We have communities that have segregated themselves because of their lack of English language, my local high-streets have more foreign-language signage than English on them.

I've had racist remarks said to me (probably still would if I went out more).

My first job my boss fired me because she suspected I was stealing from the tills to buy drugs like white people do because we have no morals (I was the only white guy hired there and ironically the only one who didn't have a drug habit).

I'm the only white guy amongst my university friends, majority of which are devout Muslims who will end their conversations when I enter the room because it's inappropriate to talk Islam amongst outsiders.

I can't go into certain shops because the employees only speak Polish or Punjabi.

One of my jobs in an office was near the UK immigration HQ and I had to walk past hundreds of foreigners every morning speaking all sorts of languages as they queued up to stay in this country.

I have to wait over a month for a doctor's appointment because it's full of old women from all over the planet who get appointments for that time their eye twitched two weeks ago (and many decide not to turn up to appointments, wasting a free slot someone who needed it could have used).

Don't presume others don't understand this because I'm living it at least as much as you believe you are.

EDIT: Birmingham is about 10x "worse" (for lack of a better word) than London with this. Children at schools get bullied for being white in the United Kingdom, we had issues in the past in Birmingham of schools being majority Shia Muslim and teaching a very conservative Islamic-inspired syllabus (teach evolution, but then say "but this is not what we believe" at the end of it).

 

[Glitchfinder]

I deal with people, literally on a daily basis, who barely speak enough English to string a complete sentence together. Their original language may be Spanish, it may be Japanese, Korean, Mandarin, Cantonese, Vietnamese, Hindi, Bengali, Punjabi, or one of the hundreds of other languages I hear spoken around here. But you know what? People are people, and deserve to be treated as such. They're here for opportunity, and the fact that they get by with an almost total language barrier in the way, along with discrimination from locals, is impressive and speaks more of their determination and self worth than all of the local ranting about "learning English" ever will.

 

[Xilef]

I deal with people, literally on a daily basis, who barely speak enough English to string a complete sentence together. Their original language may be Spanish, it may be Japanese, Korean, Mandarin, Cantonese, Vietnamese, Hindi, Bengali, Punjabi, or one of the hundreds of other languages I hear spoken around here. But you know what? People are people, and deserve to be treated as such. They're here for opportunity, and the fact that they get by with an almost total language barrier in the way, along with discrimination from locals, is impressive and speaks more of their determination and self worth than all of the local ranting about "learning English" ever will.

I think it takes a lot to move away from your country of birth, and it takes a lot to do that without knowing the language of the country where you are going and doing that knowing that many of the locals to that country will hate you by default.

These are people still, each with their own thoughts about this subject and stories of why they are where they are. Actually speaking to people, discussing this stuff and learning about it helps a lot - intolerance comes from ignorance (and it goes both ways, calling someone a racist and not listening to them is a great way to block out listening to the issues that these people face which have led to them developing hatred of an entire group of people).

 

[Glitchfinder]

I'm pretty sure I've said this before, though not necessarily here. Working in retail has made me realize that some "racist" things people say aren't racist at all, they're simply complaints about cultural differences and incompatibilities. The most problematic customers I get are almost invariably first or second generation immigrants from India, still bound by the whole "normal price is too much" mindset that is prevalent across most cultures there. But despite the similar appearance from my end, it's not that they're acting like Scrooge McDuck. It's simply part of who they are and how they've been brought up, with barter being a part of life. "Normal" price is marked up, and you're supposed to work for the actual price. Doesn't work the same here, but that doesn't mean you don't try to stack coupons and sales and special deals and savings from here, there and everywhere else.

I suppose what I'm saying is, it just takes stepping into the other person's shoes for a moment to realize that hey, maybe that racist thought is me being an asshole, or maybe this is a cultural incompatibility, but dammit they're a person too.

 

[coyotecraft]

I fucking hate Youtubers. If you're going into game journalism; learn the terminology.

Gameplay and Narrative are not the same thing. I swear every video about making RPGs say the same thing "we want meaningful choices." Guess what, RPGs are not CYOA books. Zelda isn't an RPG either. Not all MMOs are RPGs.
REEEEEEEE.

 

[Glitchfinder]

I fucking hate Youtubers. If you're going into game journalism; learn the terminology.

Gameplay and Narrative are not the same thing. I swear every video about making RPGs say the same thing "we want meaningful choices." Guess what, RPGs are not CYOA books. Zelda isn't an RPG either. Not all MMOs are RPGs.
REEEEEEEE.

Well, I can understand the complaint when the game is advertised as having them. When your big moral decisions basically end up with the background color of the ending cinematic being blue, green, or red, then the advertisement starts feeling a bit hollow.

Also, if they want meaningful choices, they should go play some Fable. Preferably one of the first two.

 

[Xilef]

I share the same thoughts as you Glitchfinder. When I see (or even receive) racist comments all I see is someone shouting because their ignorance has left a gap for intolerance to grow, actually talking to people and learning about them reveals that everyone is an individual.

The other thing to do is to actually look at statistics and information and educate yourself to see how much of a "problem" you think certain problems actually are. Most of the *shocking* numbers presented for these issues are incredibly small when at the scale of an entire country.


EDIT:

I fucking hate Youtubers. If you're going into game journalism; learn the terminology.

Gameplay and Narrative are not the same thing. I swear every video about making RPGs say the same thing "we want meaningful choices." Guess what, RPGs are not CYOA books. Zelda isn't an RPG either. Not all MMOs are RPGs.
REEEEEEEE.

I've found that terminology is becoming less and less important, which I think is a shame as strong terminology definitions is the very basic tool consumers have for quickly identifying what a game is about.

Rogue-like is now used for every fucking game on the planet and "Dark Souls" is now the definition of game difficulty (I've never even fucking played Dark Souls, describing something as "The Dark-Souls of insert-genre-here" is fucking useless to me!).

A low frame-rate is now "lag" - even in single-player games (wtf?) and all custom maps made for games are now called "mods" (mods are now full-games, apparently). Emulators are still "legal grey-area" - despite them having a very well defined legal status by now (and are thus not in any "grey-area" at all).

The only thing worse about game journalism are the morons who think game journalism is somehow important. News flash; game journalism has very little impact on the games industry as a whole. Think of all the gamers who own Xbox and PlayStation consoles, do you really think these people have the skills to navigate the world-wide-web effectively enough to find your favourite game journalist website? Vast majority of gamers aren't watching YouTubers or reading Polygon: they get their information from Facebook (specifically LadBible videos that say every fucking game being released "looks like the best game ever").

We're in an industry where the Ouya got funded by idiots because Ouya told them it's a good idea, clearly the gaming community - with games journalism in it - isn't having any kind of intelligent, well-informed discussion about their favourite industry.

 

[Hybrida]

I feel sorry for Europe. In 20 years it's gonna look very different.

 

[Xilef]

I feel sorry for Europe. In 20 years it's gonna look very different.

UK will be out of Europe soon, so we'll be the gauge to measure against for "how well is Europe doing?" in 20 years time. 20 years is about how long it would take for all the current events to settle and for us to have a clear vision of what the effects were/are. Also, the majority of those who voted Brexit will be dead in 20 years.

Hopefully we'll be doing better than the rest of Europe; if we're leaving the EU then we'd better make the most of it.

 

[bacon]

I suppose what I'm saying is, it just takes stepping into the other person's shoes for a moment to realize that hey, maybe that racist thought is me being an asshole, or maybe this is a cultural incompatibility, but dammit they're a person too.

<3

 

[Hybrida]

Thank you Mega Flare. I've learn so much from you.

Post something rmxp related = Silence for 20 hours.

Say something about a race of people = All of a sudden everyone can post again.

Clever! See? I have to be obnoxious, outrageous, and psycho. The moment I be normal, everything goes silent and uninteresting. Knowledge is power!

 

[aphadeon]

We're in an industry where the Ouya got funded by idiots because Ouya told them it's a good idea, clearly the gaming community - with games journalism in it - isn't having any kind of intelligent, well-informed discussion about their favourite industry.

I feel exactly this way about microtransactions. Noone wants to talk about the decisions a cash shop forces a designer/developer to make - so far, there is no winner there, it's just picking which part of the fanbase to intentionally alienate for money. I am an achievement hunter/completionist type of player - and with typically > $5000 of real money between me and 100%ing my in-game collection (even in single player games, these days), I'm just going to play something else. I'm sure there is some model which allows for recurring income without compromising the completeness of the product. But it seems noone really minds enough to look into it.

[Edit: snipped rant]

 

[Hybrida]

I suppose what I'm saying is, it just takes stepping into the other person's shoes for a moment to realize that hey, maybe that racist thought is me being an asshole, or maybe this is a cultural incompatibility, but dammit they're a person too.

<3

Not about being racist at all. It's about foreigners being disrespectful. Especially if they lived in my country for 3 generations. At least try to learn the language of the country you fled to. Most don't even try, and don't teach their children either. I don't feel sorry for those people. Those people can be sent back home. No tears shed from me.

It was never about better opportunities. In most cases it's just foreigners running from their problems, and responsibilities in there home nation. Cubans are in America because they were afraid to fight against their own corrupt government. Mexicans are in America because they won't fix the problems in Mexico. The cowardice is obvious. "Why do anything when we can just go to America/Europe?" I just see cowards. How about fix your homeland instead of running somewhere else?

How come chinese and indian people can learn English, and do something good? They're not running from their problems, they go can back home or stay here with no problems.

 

[Glitchfinder]

How about we fix the problems with our own countries before complaining about people not fixing the problems with theirs?

 

[Hybrida]

The foreigners are the problem. When they leave our country our problems are fixed... It's why American elected Trump, and trying to build a wall.

22 trillion in dept. Can't afford to help anyone anymore. Stay in your shitty country, and fix that. Don't come here. We couldn't even help Puerto Rico, and that's US territory.

Fix Syria, don't run away.
Fix Mexico, don't run away.
Fix Cuba, don't run away.
Fix Venezuela, don't run away.
Fix Africa, don't run away.
Fix Haiti, don't run away.

Americans can't run to anywhere. So don't come here. If USA and Europe goes to shit, that's it.

Take responsibility, don't flee your country.

 

[Glitchfinder]

Aside from the fact that the United States as we know it is literally the result of 400 years worth of not taking responsibility and fleeing home countries, as you put it, your suggestion is a great way to immediately kill quite a few essential services, including practically the entire farming industry. Deport every immigrant and our country will collapse in under a year.

 

[Hybrida]

I don't care about what happened 400 years ago.

Another thing is I'm not white, or originated from Europe. America will be perfectly fine without any additional foreigners. Simply cut military spending by 80%, farming jobs are no problem if the pay is reasonable.

My people literally built the country, including the white house itself. I don't want any foreigners taking what my people supposed to have. That's all I see in South Florida. It's personal for me.

Spanish and Haitian folks can GTFO, especially if they can't speak english.

Japan is xenophobic for a reason. They're smart. No one is gonna fuck up their beautiful nation.

 

[bacon]

I suppose what I'm saying is, it just takes stepping into the other person's shoes for a moment to realize that hey, maybe that racist thought is me being an asshole, or maybe this is a cultural incompatibility, but dammit they're a person too.

<3

Not about being racist at all. It's about foreigners being disrespectful. Especially if they lived in my country for 3 generations. At least try to learn the language of the country you fled to. Most don't even try, and don't teach their children either. I don't feel sorry for those people. Those people can be sent back home. No tears shed from me.

This is literally a perfect example of being a racist fuck.
1) just because your ancestors lived here for 3+ generations doesnt give you any more rights. You shouldn't get special treatment.
2) Do i have to mention the countless names of nations and people we have destroyed. Theres a reason why people are fleeing.
3) English has been forced onto most countries, the fact that Americans dont need to learn other languages is selfish.
4) even of someone talks shit about you in another language, doesn't give you the right to become resentful. Most people talk shit about other people regardless of nationality.

 

[Hybrida]

This is literally a perfect example of being a racist fuck.

Wrong. You don't even know what racism is. Go do some research.

1) just because your ancestors lived here for 3+ generations doesnt give you any more rights. You shouldn't get special treatment.

Ultra Wrong! Learn some history. The United States owe my people reparations, and they still haven't given it to us yet! Don't give a poop about no other races until my people get what's owed to them. My people are entitled. We built this country, we were enslaved for 430+ years, raped, 130 million killed via trans atlantic slave trade kidnapped, etc.

I'm sorry about being pissed at foreigners coming here, and getting more benefits than the people who built this country. It's a slap in the face. To hell with those people. I have every right to be mad. I don't care what you label me as. They need to GTFO. My stance will not change.

2) Do i have to mention the countless names of nations and people we have destroyed. Theres a reason why people are fleeing.

I Don't care! Not my problem. White people did that. I'm not white. I don't want strangers coming here getting more benefits than the natives here. It's unfair, and they don't have to learn English. Oh very fair. *Rolls eyes*

3) English has been forced onto most countries, the fact that Americans dont need to learn other languages is selfish.

It's the right of a true superpower nation. British people did the same thing.

Listen. South Floridians have to learn a foreign language to work in America. "Aww you only know English? We prefer english and spanish here. We can't hire you if you can't speak Spanish."

Americans shouldn't have to learn another language to find a good job in America. This a thing in south Florida. Obviously it's not right..

4) even of someone talks shit about you in another language, doesn't give you the right to become resentful. Most people talk shit about other people regardless of nationality.

I dunno where this response came from. I don't care what they say, but I won't hesitate to kill them if they attack me.