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Curing Homosexuality?

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Sic Semper Tyranosaurus":1yged250 said:
Let me put this out there: Maybe nobody's 100% gung-ho let us make babies now straight. Maybe we're all a little gay. Or a LOT gay. Maybe some of us are hardly gay at all. I've always liked the idea of sliding scales more than "If you are, you are. If you aren't, you aren't."

Sexuality, personality, and psychology are all too damned complicated for only two possibilities.

That's very possible.  I tend to think it's a mix of predispositions and learned behaviors that tip the scale, as I've probably said before, but I know plenty of people who at least have a mild bit of curiosity - it's hard to find a girl who says she doesn't find women at least slightly attractive in a sexual sense, and it's probably similar with men though they're less prone to admit it.  I have the feeling that the more overtly hyper-masculine a guy acts the more likely he's compensating, personally.

I can't identify with it at all unfortunately (I find the idea of anal sex with women revolting, let alone homosexual intercourse), but I wouldn't be ashamed to admit it if I did have some "curiosities" any more than I am to admit any of my other exceedingly strange traits.
 
That is stupid, why the hell would you like to change someone. I absolutely hate people like that. Leave us types alone!(not gay is I, Bi)
I mean holy crap.(this isn't at you, just the ignorant religious types)
 
Here's another dynamic that most anti-gay people seem to forget.

Why do we arbitrarily define sexuality based on a small selection of the possible objects of sexual attraction, and marginalize all other forms of sexuality as 'fetishes'?

By 'object', I am referring to the two objects that we are instructed to direct our sexual energy towards - male, or female.  What about other objects?  Inanimate objects?  Non human objects?  Parts of the human body not generally associated with reproduction?  And what about defining sexuality not by the object of desire but by, say, the location of desire?  Where it takes place?  At what preferred time?  With multiple people?  Are there other dynamics involved?  There are literally millions of possibilities if you consider the wide variety of 'fetishes' out there.  So why are they seen as not normal staples of sexuality despite it being very obvious they ARE quite normal?
 
hungery12":38ehe4ui said:
I mean holy crap.(this isn't at you, just the ignorant religious types)

Hey, don't type all religious people like that. That's like saying all muslims are terrorist. Each religion has its extremist.

I, for one, am not pro Homosexual but I am pro free will.
 
He said the ignorant religious types, i.e. religious people that are ignorant.

I, for one, am not pro Homosexual but I am pro free will.

And no offense but that sentence is er... a complete contradiction.
 
@wyatt:
Just because he doesn't promote homosexuality doesn't mean he doesn't promote free will, he probably means that he accepts it, but doesn't promote it.

"Many children are molested by older men (and women, but the male statistics are more thoroughly studied) and develop no such attraction later in life. On the contrary, they may grow up repulsed by the idea of a man, or even another PERSON touching them."

That if it was a molested rape, but this was a paedophile seducing her and having a relationship with her.
 

kipani

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HAHAHAHA!!!! CURING IT!!

ITS GENETIC DUDE! You can't cure something like that :\ they've actually DISCOVERED it was in the genes. Teenagers don't count as real homos though, since most of them just do it to rebel or for attention
 
Yeah, you can't really tell with homosexuality in some teens because at that stage your hormones are crazy and out of control.
 
Cassy":20y7yi4i said:
Yeah, you can't really tell with homosexuality in some teens because at that stage your hormones are crazy and out of control.

Even then I'm pretty sure you can't chalk up fucking another guy in the ass to "lol hormonez"
 
Most people think of homosexuality in teens and they - at least everyone I've spoken to - think of lesbianism in females, and buy that they mean kissing to be cool.

There's a huge difference, or maybe it was just my high school - between the poser who wanted to be cool by kissing Astrid, and the chick who was truly homosexual and hung herself because of her parents, and the other homosexual teen who survived high school and is settling down with Mary Anne.

The odd thing is my gay friends in high school have a better mortality rate than my straight friends I just noticed...
 
kipani,

ITS GENETIC DUDE![...] they've actually DISCOVERED it was in the genes.

No, no. They say they may have found a possible gene that has a chance of maybe sometimes making someone slightly more likely to be gay. The rates they have are nothing, really. Anything that uncertain is not proof in any sense of the word. Shut up.

You can't cure something like that :\

Bollocks. Genetic=/=incurable.

Teenagers don't count as real homos though, since most of them just do it to rebel or for attention

Oh really? I'm a fake homosexual? You better watch your mouth! But I can see where you're coming from; "hipster pseudo-sexuality" is what I like to call it. Idiots who feel they don't get enough attention already decide that kissing anyone and anything is a good way to get some odd looks from "squares". You can't generalise it further than that, otherwise you'll sound like an arse (oh wai-). "Real" homosexuality comes about the same way as heterosexuality. Are you willing to admit that no-one is sure of their sexuality during their teenage? I doubt it.

Don't portray your childish opinions as fact, you'll only get burned.
 
I am insulted. I don't get excited by Penises for no reason and it's not fake. Why would I need to rebel? Why would I need attention. [Provided, I'm bisexual]. Let's say I agree with your point, in that case it applies the other way around:

Teenagers don't count as real heteros through, since most of them just do it to rebel or for attention
Teenagers don't count as real gamers through, since most of them just do it to rebel or for attention
Teenagers don't count as real humans through, since most of them just do it to rebel or for attention
 
*cough*

I think people are too dim to realize what we meant.

Teenagers are high in their sexual hormones due to the sudden rush of puberty, that's why some of them jump in bed at any chance. Of course being a teenager means discovering what person you are, so yeah, if you snog another girl and like it you are considered bisexual in teen talk, not that fact that you can feel fully attracted to one.

All of us have some slight faint sexual desires for the same/different sex (depending on sexuality) that doesn't quite make us all bisexual, but close. The only thing that separates us from that is how we think, for example, when we intoxicate ourselves with alcohol, some people will flirt or have sexual encounters with the same sex, even if they are straight, when they wake up and find a naked person of the same sex they're like 'w....t....f'.  I'm sure everyone knows minds go cloudy and foggy when people drink.
 

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Hey guys, homosexuality isn't a illness, or disease...it's just a differrent way to see liife, thought i dont suppor them,..
I guess a night with loads of girlds would be justt fineee!
 

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Cassy":2ifzfht6 said:
*cough*

I think people are too dim to realize what we meant.

Teenagers are high in their sexual hormones due to the sudden rush of puberty, that's why some of them jump in bed at any chance. Of course being a teenager means discovering what person you are, so yeah, if you snog another girl and like it you are considered bisexual in teen talk, not that fact that you can feel fully attracted to one.

All of us have some slight faint sexual desires for the same/different sex (depending on sexuality) that doesn't quite make us all bisexual, but close. The only thing that separates us from that is how we think, for example, when we intoxicate ourselves with alcohol, some people will flirt or have sexual encounters with the same sex, even if they are straight, when they wake up and find a naked person of the same sex they're like 'w....t....f'.  I'm sure everyone knows minds go cloudy and foggy when people drink.

I don't really think that's accurate or supportable.  I didn't feel any sexual attraction to men during any part of my life, hormonal or not, faintly or otherwise, and I don't say that to be macho or because I'm homophobic, just as a plain statement of fact.  As an artist I have the utmost respect for male anatomy but it doesn't in the least get a rise out of me or compel me to want to touch, feel and play with it as with female anatomy. :)  I expect that a "truly" gay person would feel exactly the opposite, and there are plenty of people (maybe a majority) sitting in between.

I doubt if alcohol has anything to do with it either, or any other form of intoxication, and I've experienced plenty.  None of them has made me want to get intimate with my male friends, I suppose because I had no inhibited desires to do so in the first place.

In a sense I suppose that's a good argument for deep-rooted sexuality.
 
And as far as being genetic, most studies were flawed anyway. For example, one guy looked at 40 pairs of brothers. He found that the pairs that were BOTH gay shared a gene. But he didn't look at those who only had ONE gay and ONE straight to see if they shared the gene or if there was a difference, because it would "confuse the study," ie, might remove the genetic correlation.

In fact, studies trying to find the cause of homosexuality are pretty much flawed, because the researchers are trying to prove themselves right, not find facts.
 
My basic understanding about homosexuality:

First, they are not a disease. It's just their alternate view to see their life. The cause of this so-called 'abnormality' are:

1. Caused by their traumatic life (ex: when they were child, they get raped by same gendered rapist, so when they grew up, they had a fetish to the same sex.) 

2. They had tired with the cross-gender relationship (ex: a nerdy boy got his love letter thrashed with many girls. And when his male friend came to cheer him up, he thinks that his friend are the one in his heart.)

3. The media's affection (ex: Many media in TV and internet showed how popular same-gendered relationship that becomes a trend in youngsters nowadays. That's the one that cause many lesbian in this world. And some children or broken hearted nerdy came across with this subject, and it affects on how they are thinking.)

Conclusion:

Homosexuality are not a disease, so no potion / pills / medication for curing it. The only way to cure it are only make them change they viewpoint off sexual appeal.

And the homosexs are thinking and acting like a normal people, so there's no reason for avoiding them. Just try to get hold on yourself to not dragged into their world, and maybe help them to became 'normal' by change their view point or help them to cope their pronlem.
 
Valcrist":2r44sfdd said:
My basic understanding about homosexuality:

First, they are not a disease. It's just their alternate view to see their life. The cause of this so-called 'abnormality' are:

1. Caused by their traumatic life (ex: when they were child, they get raped by same gendered rapist, so when they grew up, they had a fetish to the same sex.) 

2. They had tired with the cross-gender relationship (ex: a nerdy boy got his love letter thrashed with many girls. And when his male friend came to cheer him up, he thinks that his friend are the one in his heart.)

3. The media's affection (ex: Many media in TV and internet showed how popular same-gendered relationship that becomes a trend in youngsters nowadays. That's the one that cause many lesbian in this world. And some children or broken hearted nerdy came across with this subject, and it affects on how they are thinking.)

Conclusion:

Homosexuality are not a disease, so no potion / pills / medication for curing it. The only way to cure it are only make them change they viewpoint off sexual appeal.

And the homosexs are thinking and acting like a normal people, so there's no reason for avoiding them. Just try to get hold on yourself to not dragged into their world, and maybe help them to became 'normal' by change their view point or help them to cope their pronlem.
I was genuinely floored to click your profile info and see that you're any older than twelve. Holy crap, I do not know where to begin with this. Sixty, you take it.
 

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