What would you want in a Final Fantasy VII Remake?
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shinasura;173864 said:
Aerith didn't die in the materia cave OR the Temple of the Ancients. She died in the secret shrine underneath the CITY of the Ancients. And there is a way to bring her back (which requires codes), and a way to prevent her death (which DOESN'T need codes).
Also, it'd be neat if there were guest appearances and/or references to other Final Fantasies. Like in Cerberus, the first phase of the final boss used two Gunblades. There should be accessible Gunblades in a remake of FF7.
I have to disagree with a few people on here and say that I think that there should not be a way to bring Aeris back to life. She dies. That is what the game writers wrote into the plot (by the way, I figure eveyone in here has beaten FFVII, so I am not using spoiler tags). Her story is about sacrifice and accepting her role in life. Bringing her back would be totally against the greater picture. Yeah, it sucked in the game when you spent hours building her up and then you lose her from your party, but life isn't fair. That is the way the story goes and I hope that the creators never include such a feature in any future games or Square-Enix productions (movies, etc.).
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Sephiroth7734;173912 said:
No, there isn't. This is a persistent myth, but a myth, nonetheless.
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Rhazdel;173918 said:
*Nod nod* As much as I would love for Aeris to have never died, it is a major point in the plot. The ending was pretty worthless without it too. I dont think death's should be changed, no matter how much fanboys and fangirls want it. Unless its a pointless death, haha. I hate pointless deaths... I think the games story should really remained untouched besides additions or clearifications. The main story itself should really remain true to the original. It just wouldnt be the same! And the game itself wouldnt be as powerful if Aeris didnt die.
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If Aeris lived it would completely destroy basically the entire FFVII mythos.
I read in an interview where the developers said that Tifa was originally going to die (not at the same place, mind you), but they decided Aeris was a better choice for numerous reasons I can't remember. In other words, Aeris's ressurection wasn't hastily cut from the game like some people imply - it was never put in.
I wouldn't mind if there was just a LITTLE blood next time around though.
I read in an interview where the developers said that Tifa was originally going to die (not at the same place, mind you), but they decided Aeris was a better choice for numerous reasons I can't remember. In other words, Aeris's ressurection wasn't hastily cut from the game like some people imply - it was never put in.
I wouldn't mind if there was just a LITTLE blood next time around though.
Actually, Aeris was never supposed to die in the first place, Tifa was added during a phone call, and in that same call they agreed that Aeris should die. Ironic, we worship Tifa's body and mourn for Aeris' spirit, but that is the way of the fan, is it not? But if you pay attention to Advent Children and so fourth, she is, in a sense, still a member of the team and with them the whole way. I just wish they'd give her a little more screen time (or at least her face:D )
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i say they should just upgrade the graphics. why change something thats allrady good
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A serious assurance that the FF7 remake would be their last attempt to milk money from a long-dead "saga".
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For it not to exist...
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Rye;178613 said:
Probably just random forum banter, i mean why would they just go "hey let's kill aeris, and add a big boobed broad called, errr....Tifa! Yeah!"
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According to Electronic Gaming Monthly October 2005, Tetsuya Nomura has explained that, during the early stages of development, the game was to have featured only Cloud, Barret and Aeris, with the intention that one of the three would die.
He felt that Cloud could not die due to his leading role and that Barret dying would be too cliche. He also expressed frustration with the way death was portrayed in fiction, particularly RPGs, as romantic and impermanent. As a result, he suggested that Aeris die and not return, believing it would come as a surprise to the audiance and emphasize the sudden, harsh, and irreversible nature of death.
Thus, Aeris was meant to die and not return, before the addition of Tifa or any other playable character except Cloud and Barret. From nearly the very begining of the planning stages, there was never any consideration of her resurection or of another character dying.
He felt that Cloud could not die due to his leading role and that Barret dying would be too cliche. He also expressed frustration with the way death was portrayed in fiction, particularly RPGs, as romantic and impermanent. As a result, he suggested that Aeris die and not return, believing it would come as a surprise to the audiance and emphasize the sudden, harsh, and irreversible nature of death.
Thus, Aeris was meant to die and not return, before the addition of Tifa or any other playable character except Cloud and Barret. From nearly the very begining of the planning stages, there was never any consideration of her resurection or of another character dying.
Excuse me, but isn't EGM the same magazine that took FFVII Technical Demo coverage, fudged the truth and said it was testing capabilities for a FFVII remake that was to come out, oh I dunno, last November, even going so far as to say Square-Enix set the date? It isn't as trustworthy a magazine as you think.
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My two cents - again,
FF7 remake,
Obviously updated graphics and voiceovers - that much is known. I don't think anyone needs to bring that up again, it would obviously have better graphics and since every game now has voices, it's a pretty safe bet that if they went back and did the 1st one in one of these "next geners" we'd have voices in that too.
But,
Redo the entire materia system. It lacked the customization that one could pull off today, add new abilities with new materia and get rid of some of the limitations and add better restrictions to the chains of combos (an "all" materia for spells only for example).
Set it up so some characters are better in specific types (summon for example), and allow for characters to be able to completely affect each other's attacks with combo's and "dampners" (pulling two moves would lower one or more attacks if they are timed poorly). And now it's not just a spell fest in boss fights until you run out of MP and items that raise MP.
Give a reason why Bahamut either turns into or somehow spawns two other forms other than "oh look, new materia - yay!" (yes I know that wasn't what happened, but it might as well have been).
Redo the entire Limit Break, like in later games (FF and non FF that had like things) you can customize it a bit, and add equipment that affect it.
What not to do?
Make Areis live. It ruins the story, makes the whole game look childish and boring. Sympathy and tragedy compelled that story (though I think it was handled horribly, and didn't see the big deal about it).
Don't make the summons replace the party like in 10. Leave them the way they are. Square-Enix can make several games if they want that replace the party with summons, but leave the past gameplay the way it is. Some people like the summons being more of a normal spell.
Don't just remake the game and leave it as that, things must be added an explained, if they can change FF3 or whatever one they just did to turn the characters from nameless faceless templates and give them names, faces, and backstories, they can explain a bit on 7.
FF7 remake,
Obviously updated graphics and voiceovers - that much is known. I don't think anyone needs to bring that up again, it would obviously have better graphics and since every game now has voices, it's a pretty safe bet that if they went back and did the 1st one in one of these "next geners" we'd have voices in that too.
But,
Redo the entire materia system. It lacked the customization that one could pull off today, add new abilities with new materia and get rid of some of the limitations and add better restrictions to the chains of combos (an "all" materia for spells only for example).
Set it up so some characters are better in specific types (summon for example), and allow for characters to be able to completely affect each other's attacks with combo's and "dampners" (pulling two moves would lower one or more attacks if they are timed poorly). And now it's not just a spell fest in boss fights until you run out of MP and items that raise MP.
Give a reason why Bahamut either turns into or somehow spawns two other forms other than "oh look, new materia - yay!" (yes I know that wasn't what happened, but it might as well have been).
Redo the entire Limit Break, like in later games (FF and non FF that had like things) you can customize it a bit, and add equipment that affect it.
What not to do?
Make Areis live. It ruins the story, makes the whole game look childish and boring. Sympathy and tragedy compelled that story (though I think it was handled horribly, and didn't see the big deal about it).
Don't make the summons replace the party like in 10. Leave them the way they are. Square-Enix can make several games if they want that replace the party with summons, but leave the past gameplay the way it is. Some people like the summons being more of a normal spell.
Don't just remake the game and leave it as that, things must be added an explained, if they can change FF3 or whatever one they just did to turn the characters from nameless faceless templates and give them names, faces, and backstories, they can explain a bit on 7.
A wiki? Dang, I just knew I read it somewhere, and most of my sources are right. Goes to show you, kids: don't trust everything you hear. I thought it was kind of weird they'd be all "hey, let's kill Aeris because Tifa's coming in!" when they still could have just as easily left her and made her feel jilted or something, which probably would have added another layer to her character. I'm just a little bitter towards EGM because I ended up believing a different bum article of theirs and it ruined my game (please, don't ask about this, it's sorta personal), but I still think EGM2/ExpertGamer/GameNow turned out better than its counterpart, at least before the 2nd name change, but that's just my opinion.
And as for the re-release, I may have already said it, Aeris is set in stone as the English translation for FFVII, don't change it to Aerith, Earith, Elise, Alice (had to look that one up, no, not on a wiki) or whatever! And they'd better not change the original clothes. Don't get me wrong, the depressed-emo look is okay for a post-near apocalyptic world like the one in Advent Children, but FFVII still had a bustling one, and keep Barret's proportions to AC standards, he isn't a dang tank (even if his name was originally Bullet and he has a gun on his arm) and they likely should add some new materia, and maybe stretch out Barret's part of the game a little more (he gets yelled at, runs off, goes to prison, finds Dyne, Dyne commits suicide, it's over, sort of short and anticlimactic) and maybe PUT SOMETHING IN THAT FREAKIN' EMPTY COREL PRISON TREASURE CHEST! Maybe even add in a new weapon battle (or just let Sapphire Weapon not quite die from that shot by the Mako Cannon/Sister Ray and, rather, roam the ocean's surface or something)
And as for the re-release, I may have already said it, Aeris is set in stone as the English translation for FFVII, don't change it to Aerith, Earith, Elise, Alice (had to look that one up, no, not on a wiki) or whatever! And they'd better not change the original clothes. Don't get me wrong, the depressed-emo look is okay for a post-near apocalyptic world like the one in Advent Children, but FFVII still had a bustling one, and keep Barret's proportions to AC standards, he isn't a dang tank (even if his name was originally Bullet and he has a gun on his arm) and they likely should add some new materia, and maybe stretch out Barret's part of the game a little more (he gets yelled at, runs off, goes to prison, finds Dyne, Dyne commits suicide, it's over, sort of short and anticlimactic) and maybe PUT SOMETHING IN THAT FREAKIN' EMPTY COREL PRISON TREASURE CHEST! Maybe even add in a new weapon battle (or just let Sapphire Weapon not quite die from that shot by the Mako Cannon/Sister Ray and, rather, roam the ocean's surface or something)