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What is the best PSone RPG ever?

Anonymous

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Ryan, Marcus, stop flaming the Final Fantasy fan(s). People are entitled to their opinions. You are entitled to disagree. You are not entitled to flame them for it.
 

Marcus

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ccoa said:
Ryan, Marcus, stop flaming the Final Fantasy fan(s). People are entitled to their opinions. You are entitled to disagree. You are not entitled to flame them for it.
...where did I flame them at all? I never said "If you like Final Fantasy, you suck." I simply said "There is more to life than Final Fantasy." If that's considered a flame then I guess I should hop on the bandwagon and agree with every single opinion I read. I LIKE Final Fantasy but I'm not going to say it's something you orgasm over.

I can see if you misunderstood me when I said "Tool" but I was simply voicing my opinion that if you beleive popularity = good then you are a tool. Britney Spears had millions of fans... that doesn't make her better than The Beatles.
 

Anonymous

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And clearly he does believe that (he effectively said so), so you are then calling him a tool. -_-
 
ryanwh said:
I'll say it, I liked Xenosaga 1 but hated Xenogears, liked FF10 but hated 9.
Ryan, Marcus, stop flaming the Final Fantasy fan(s).
Read much? You just read what you want to read. I was calling anyeone basing quality on popularity a fool, nobody in particular just a general statement of judging. It had nothing to do with ff in particular. It helps to get a full picture before giving a lecture. Im not one to allow people to put words in my mouth like you did. What you should of been noticing is the guy that implied anyone who doesnt like FF is 'gay', since they all, apparently, hate it for the same reason. Its ok though, we all make mistakes and oversites.
 
Marcus said:
I can see if you misunderstood me when I said "Tool" but I was simply voicing my opinion that if you beleive popularity = good then you are a tool. Britney Spears had millions of fans... that doesn't make her better than The Beatles.

But you just admitted there was subjectivity in opinions?
 
Ugh, stop arguing with a perfectly legitimate lecture you jackasses. Yes I just flamed you by calling you a jackass. You sound insulting, and you ARE insulting. We wear kiddy gloves on this forum because there are kiddies around, and you're scaring them away. Now it'd be wonderful if you'd say, "I think Final Fantasy is generally overated and people mainly just go with it because everyone says it's golden," which is decidedly different from, "if you base quality on popularity you're simply a fool."

Get over it, and shut up.

Though I'd have to argue you over the Xenogears being not fun, I found the gameplay system to be relatively engrossing, but the main draw is the story. Though I do agree about the second disc, that was a bit annoying. (Though the giant [really giant] robot battle was amusing)
 

Anonymous

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This thread certainly is beneficial to the productivity and well-being of this forum.
 

Marcus

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rexxz said:
But you just admitted there was subjectivity in opinions?
Yea, it's my opinion that he's a tool. You either agree with me or disagree with me; that's your opinion.

Ugh, stop arguing with a perfectly legitimate lecture you jackasses.
Okay "Final Fantasy is gay." Is that illegitimate enough for you?

We wear kiddy gloves on this forum because there are kiddies around, and you're scaring them away.
You just called me a Jackass. Now I'm scared.

To stay on topic, I'll sum up my opinion of this entire thread.

"I think Final Fantasy is generally overated and people mainly just go with it because everyone says it's golden."
 
The only RPGS I played on PSone are Choron Trigger, FF7, legend of dragoon and FF9.. I choose FF7 > CT > FF9 > LoD in that order.
 
Marcus said:
The problem with Xenogears is that the second disc was nothing more than a massive anime-like filter. I hated how the characters were simply like "lol this is what i did" instead of actually letting you PLAY IT.
You can thank Square's mismanagement and a (higher) priority towards FF7 for that. Xenogears basically went the way Evangelion did. Don’t think that this was intended, that is assuming you did.
 
Star Ocean: The Second Story was the best RPG in my opinion. Great storyline, lots of features, shame that it was a little bit on the short side but overall it was a really great game.
 

Marcus

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Ambience said:
You can thank Square's mismanagement and a (higher) priority towards FF7 for that. Xenogears basically went the way Evangelion did. Don’t think that this was intended, that is assuming you did.
I don't know what happened on the second disc but knowing that kind of makes up for it (not really... because I still have to play the second disc).

Atleast it's not as bad as Wild Arms 2's second disc which seriously could have been tossed out the window as it had NOTHING that further explored the story at all. The first disc's climax would have been 10x more satisfying if I hadn't played through the second disc.
 
It didnt really go the way of evangelion. Evangelion was a case of jaded suicidal artist, we just didnt "get" the director's ending. But it wasnt rushed at all, xenogears's was.
 
Looking past the technicalities, you cannot deny the fact that how XG and Evan concluded, BOTH turned out much different to what each creator originally planned for.
 
Well, I'm a sad fanboy... or Am I? FF7 wasn't the first FF I played, FF4 was. Then FF6 and then in 1997, FF7. So I can't go by bias as the first game I played. I played the Zelda games long before them too and am a big fan of Breath of Fire and Alundra.

As much as I know I'll get eaten alive for it. I have to say Final Fantasy VII not for it's graphics but it's storyline and musical score as my favourite parts. Alot of people love this game, but did anyone think to say that people play the game, enjoy it and become fans after they've enjoyed the game. So a majority does count for something especially here. It's a great game and people enjoyed it, they can't really have a bias before they've played it like someone might with a movie sequel.
 
sandgolem said:
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Were you playing the same game I did?

The "you have to beat up your own characters to survive", horribly storyline, etc..

It's all opionion. Alot of people like that game. A very small group, but its a FFII Cult! FFII isnt in my top favorites though. FFVI, IX, III, V, and X rocks =o
 
Chaosahanu said:
Star Ocean: The Second Story was the best RPG in my opinion. Great storyline, lots of features, shame that it was a little bit on the short side but overall it was a really great game.

On this topic... Star Ocean: The Second Story and Final Fantasy VII I have played through about 15 times for each of them. I don't think they're the best, but they're both personal favorites. That's the thing here, most people put their favorites as absolute best here, though I can't exactly back that up with anything. I've only played Xenogears about 3 times (I only actually bought a copy of my own like 6 months ago), and Suikoden II a mere once. Yet both of those are in my opinion up in the greatest category, and behind them are Breath of Fire 3 and Star Ocean. I've heard wonderful things about Vagrant Story, but I've never played it and don't know if it qualifies as an RPG. (I WANT THAT GAME)
 
Final Fantasy Tactics if you consider it an TRPG, which I do. Aside from the lame final battle.

Star Ocean II: Second Story is great as well, although I got stuck at the first boss fight on the second disc.

Final Fantasy IX and VIII were good too.

and Breath of Fire 4 was fun and I loved the graphics.
 
I'm gonna stop to put Xenosaga on the top of my pile immediately. (Even if most of disk 2 did suck, the first disk more than made up for it - it's not like the frikkin amazing plot went away.))

But I also thoroughly enjoyed Star Ocean II, Breath of Fire 3, Grandia, Legend of Mana, and Final Fantasy Tactics.

People are such dicks to those who really liked FFVII, but I'm one of them, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
 

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