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What do you Prefer?

What do you prefer?

  • Sony PSP

    Votes: 13 18.3%
  • Nintendo DS

    Votes: 44 62.0%
  • Both

    Votes: 14 19.7%

  • Total voters
    71
Both are starting to get good games. The PSP has Ultimate Ghosts 'n' Goblins and the Valkyrie Profile remake, and DS has the upcoming FFIII and all the familiar franchises like Super Mario Bros.
 
oh wow

i'll never forget when the DS was announced 2 years ago. nintendo's statement about the system was essentially

"LOL 2 SCREENS MOST REVOLUTIONARY HANDHELD EVAR!!!11"

and what came of it? a new mario kart, a bad metroid prime, advance wars with fuzzier graphics, and an animal crossing. ANIMAL CROSSING.

yea, that got me preordering quick (sarcasm)

ironically, all the big budget titles were supposed to be launch titles (except for metroid hunters which was supposed to come out APRIL 5 2005). the only 1st party launch title was mario 64 DS. we didn't get anything until 9 months later with wario ware and advance wars.

lol did you ever at one stage see me say the DS wasn't a gimmick. Sure it is! But I just feel it's less gimmicky than the PSP. In fact, what's to say that any gaming system isn't a gimmick? 360; looks sleaker, better graphics...I'm all out of thoughts...PS3; ummmm...Wii: control that responds to movement, sleek looking graphics, reasonably price (as opposed to the others)...whatever, you get the point. Everything's a gimmick these days...

Also, the joy about living in Australia is that we get MANY launch titles :D

it's been about 7 years since GBA...
Well done to the GBA for making it thus far. It had a good run.

I'm still lolling.
What an ego! That's just from a gaming perspective though. I'm sure you're an awesome guy...in fact, you are :P
 
PSP doesn't have many good games yet, in my honest opinion. It's top-selling game is for the PS2 as well, so why not get that version?
 

Sion

Member

PSP games on average score higher than ds games.

When going through the gamespot highest rating charts I encountered an exclusive psp game (tekken: dark res) before the ds entry, which is Mario kart DS. A game available on every nintendo console...

People who say the psp has no good games have no good eyes.

Also, I own a DS (Yes, Im a tratior), and I havent seen any good games for it.
 
Marcus said:
Nintendo tried to nail home the fact that the DS wasn't replacing the GBA.

I lolled hard when they said that.

Despite the fact we're in the next generation of games, we haven't heard anything about NEW GAMEBOY yet and it's been about 7 years since GBA...

I'm still lolling.

That's called marketing! They wanted it to replace the GBA, but it was a dangerous move since the two screen design is a bit quirky, so they needed a backup plan to look good: "this is only an experiment, don't worry." The results were good though, so they went with it.
 
Sion said:
Also, I own a DS (Yes, Im a tratior), and I havent seen any good games for it.
PSP games that have sold over a million copies worldwide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_games#Sony_PSP

DS games that have sold over a million copies worldwide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_games#Nintendo_DS

And there are still good games for the DS that haven't sold over a million copies, such as Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Advanced Wars: Dual Strike, Trauma Center: Under the Knife, and Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney. There are others but I don't have them.
 
PSP without a doubt. Being able to play everything up to at least the Genesis (still waiting for a glitch free N64 and such emulator :P) and soon a PS1 emulator from sony itself and being able to watch movies and listen to music and store data other than game stuff.. I like that. It's very nice to have a multitool kinda portable game device.
 

Sion

Member

Im talking about quality, not sales. The DS is winning on sales because its main buyers (little kiddies), only do so on impulse.
 
Well, "little kiddies" probably won't know what games are good, and probably won't buy those million sellers.

But since you seem to want to have to have the "coolest" product, stick with your PSP while alot of 20 year olds enjoy their DS.
 

Sion

Member

I have to own the coolest product?

Then why did I buy a ds a year earlier than my psp, despite the fact I had enough for either.

I played my ds for about a week, and once about every three weeks after. I own/my brother owns: Mario 64, wario ware, nintendogs, lost magic, battles of prince of persia, ultimate spiderman, spiderman 2, pokemon dash, star wars three, shrek superslam and sims 2. I have also played: Metroid hunters and mario kart.
None of which have kept me intrested for long.
 
Half of those are good, while the other half is not. Try games like Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Advanced Wars: Dual Strike, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Trauma Center: Under the Knife, New Super Mario Bros., Animal Crossing: Wild World, Meteos, and Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time. You've got to enjoy at least one of those.
 

Sion

Member

Guess who owns the good half.

Not intrested in castlevania, overplayed advanced wars on the gba... super mario bros original gave me enough nightmares...I could go on, but basically im only mildly intrested in pheonix wright.
 

Marcus

Sponsor

Minkoff said:
That's called marketing! They wanted it to replace the GBA, but it was a dangerous move since the two screen design is a bit quirky, so they needed a backup plan to look good: "this is only an experiment, don't worry." The results were good though, so they went with it.
It can play gameboy advance games... doesn't that cue off as an automatic "replacement" in people's minds? The marketing wasn't "this is an experiment," the marketing was "hay fans, here's a new handheld; now we're not giving up support on the GBA because that would be wrong but this thing does surpass it in every way AND HAS TWO SCRNS! so buy it!"

Nintendo's marketers are notorious for being SNAKES. Sony is known for their their incredible HYPE MACHINE(tm) and Microsoft has bazillions of dollars to throw at awesome commercials and subliminal messages. But Nintendo? I wouldn't be surprised if they built a time machine and took classes in oration with Cicero because they know the exact words to say to play on people's emotions and get them to whip out their wallets on the spot.

"hay guys, new mario game coming up. it reuses the graphics from the previous new super mario but we added about 3 new colors and an extra hat. uh... you get to hop on things, you know, it's mario. we think there's touch features... maybe not. oh yea TWO SCRNS BUY NOW!!!"

Instant million on the first day it's released.

Yea, videogames is all about the big business now which is why I don't really play games anymore. Sometimes a game comes out that justifies the 50 hours putting into it but for the most part games are a waste of time.

I guess this is something people go through when they get older? I always loved videogames to death... but every month it seems as if they become more of a liability than an actual legitimate form of entertainment. I often mind myself cracking a book or buying a DVD than picking up the 'ol sticks.

*sigh* i wish i could time travel back to the days where i could sit and play a game from start to finish in a weekend. i'll never forget beating chrono cross in 2 days.

It's top-selling game is for the PS2 as well, so why not get that version?
Oh here's another thing I wanted to bring up; there's like 3 games on the PSP that were developed alongside a console version. You know why? Because Sony DOES NOT ALLOW PORTS ON THE PSP (in america atleast). That's right, if anybody says that there is a port on the PSP that was released in America, tell them they're wrong (because they are).

As far as the "why not play the ps2 version?" Because we're talking about HANDHELD CONSOLES HERE. I don't buy a handheld because I sit at my desk in front of my consoles and play it. I buy a handheld because I travel a lot and it's not necessary to carry a PS2 + Television in a backpack. A handheld isn't a console; it's a portable device and it should be judged as thus. I don't compare Mario Kart DS to Mario Kart on the Gamecube just like I don't compare the PSP to the PS2 because they're two incredibly different things.
 
Marcus said:
It can play gameboy advance games... doesn't that cue off as an automatic "replacement" in people's minds? The marketing wasn't "this is an experiment," the marketing was "hay fans, here's a new handheld; now we're not giving up support on the GBA because that would be wrong but this thing does surpass it in every way AND HAS TWO SCRNS! so buy it!"
You know what they didn't have though - GB/GBC support. They even managed to make me keep my SP (and then leave it at a friend's house forever, but regardless!)

Treacherous bastards.
 

Marcus

Sponsor

there's no doubt in my mind that in 2 years there'll be a new DS that contains a z80 emulator. if not that, there'll be an add on cartridge or something. hell, nintendo probably just believes gameboy games aren't profitable anymore and you know nitendo; if it's not profitable, it's not probable. fuck the fans! just give them another mario game, that'll keep em quiet!

*goes back to playing new super mario brothers and drooling over pokemon diamond*
 
games are a waste of time
Of course they are! What do you think people do when they're bored? Play a game and let the time waste away!

I don't compare Mario Kart DS to Mario Kart on the Gamecube...
But it certainly sounds as though you're comparing them to the actions of Nintendo. We all (should) know that (one of) the best way to sell off a product is good avdertising, and it seems that "LOL TWO SCRNS ZOMG" works for fans, so let the campaign go on. No matter how much we debate about gimmicks, advertising and whatever else, all these money-making methods are going to continue on...because that's what brings in the cash flow!

Sorry if that came out terribly bad but I'm half playing a (Nintendo) game here...
...terribly bad. A fine example...
 

Marcus

Sponsor

JonoSasson said:
Of course they are! What do you think people do when they're bored? Play a game and let the time waste away!
still, there isn't much of a constructive outcome to games. books give you insight, building models helps your ingenuity, learning how to play a guitar helps your creativity... i guess videogames increase your motor skills.

i don't know, i just feel that every game is "been there, done that." i guess i'm just patiently waiting for that next KILLER APP to come out that blows everyone's minds (and wallets).

But it certainly sounds as though you're comparing them to the actions of Nintendo. We all (should) know that (one of) the best way to sell off a product is good avdertising, and it seems that "LOL TWO SCRNS ZOMG" works for fans, so let the campaign go on. No matter how much we debate about gimmicks, advertising and whatever else, all these money-making methods are going to continue on...because that's what brings in the cash flow!

exactly, that's my point! every nintendo fanboy is like "sony is nothing but GIMICKS!" but they fail to realize the company they spasm over are vicious advertisers themselves. i love nintendo but i'm not blind enough to say they are the most humble video game developers ever.

i don't like hypocrits, k :mad:

(or spam)
 
Daniel said:
Well, "little kiddies" probably won't know what games are good, and probably won't buy those million sellers.
Uh no, little kids are directly influenced by what is popular, they'll buy what's popular.
 
JonoSasson said:
But it certainly sounds as though you're comparing them to the actions of Nintendo. We all (should) know that (one of) the best way to sell off a product is good avdertising, and it seems that "LOL TWO SCRNS ZOMG" works for fans, so let the campaign go on.
What? I think "LOL TWO SCRNS ZOMG" turned everybody off, at least at first. It took demonstration to turn people on, not marketing! I mean look at the Wii. Nobody really thought it would be any good until E3 - where they actually let people sit down and play the thing instead of speculating - when it was pretty much the center of attention.
 
I heard nothing of the DS before I bought one. It wasn't until Christmas last year when I had money to blow did I decide to see what it was all about. Sure, I could've bought a PSP but it's a fucking waste of however much it was at the time. A DS for $150 (AUD) seemed a more logical decision and I've never thought about going back on that.

It was soon after that I showed my sceptic friends what it was all about (we spent three hours on the way to camp just sharing the one DS, doing Pictochat alone. Now 11/12 of those guys own one. Now tell me, if they're amused simply by Pictochat, imagine the possibilities. They may have small brains, maybe, I don't know...hehe fine, nothing's going to change the fact that Nintendo's a bad guy in the market...but who isn't these days (as I said a number of posts earlier)?!?!?!

As for the PSP,well, I might wait until the price goes down considerably. Playing it in JB Hifi every now and then is fine enough for me. I'm only supporting DS in this debate because PSP is way way too much for something that an mp3 player, portable dvd viewer and gameboy couldn't cater for already.
 

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