Teenage Pregnancy

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Lust is a product of the human condition, but need for acceptance IS the human condition!

Mein Gott! Kant must be turning over in his grave  :wink:

Saying that a hormonal teen shouldn't have sex is like telling a group of fat guys not to eat your chocolate cake when your back is turned. Sure, some will resist. But chances are, there's going to be a big bite out of that cake when you turn back around to look!

Actually, the hormonal teen has a biological factor kicking in; although it isn't necessarily controlling him, it is urging him on to fulfill his desires. The fat kid, however, unless famished, undernourished (something I doubt, what with the fat...) or victim of some psychological disorder (e.g.: binge eating disorder), will probably not eat it, unless he wants to provoke you.

Isn't annoying when someone takes one of your analogies, three or four posts prior to his, and criticize it?  :tongue:

Anyway. I remember someone mentioning that teenagers had "no rights" to sex; biological functions and social interactions aren't "rights". They're part of nature. You don't earn them, you don't deserve them: you have them, that's all.

I don't see anything wrong with teenage sex per se, as long as each partner is aware of the possible consequences and fully accepts the responsibility of the act. I doubt pregnant 13 years old were aware of it, but you people have all pointed it out (education, etc. etc.).

I don't see much to add now. Feels like we're rambling over and over.

 

[Actingman00]

"Other than that, sex is all hush-hush-hush. Taboo. TABOO IS EXCITING FOR TEENAGERS."

Exactly, it's everywhere in the media, yet talking about it all is taboo.  I wouldn't be able to talk to my parents about anything remotely sexual, it's too uncomfortable which is the fault of our society.  They show us everywhere, and make teenagers curious, and then don't allow them to really talk about it.

Our society is a screwed up place.

 

[Dissonance]

Taboo bullshit.

Teens (and everybody else) don't like sex because it's taboo.  They like it because it's NATURAL FOR THEM TO DO SO.  Taboo is just the final touch, not the main factor.

Give everybody birth control, teach them how to use it, and when a teen pregnancy appears execute the couple involved.  This way, everybody has fun, and we weed the morons out from society.  :grin:

 

[Alpharoth]

I really don't understand why sex is taboo. It's not!
Am I a result of a taboo act?

I think teenagers likes taking risk and just too horny to think twice. Most teenagers hardly thinks twice anyway. They never look before they leap.

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

Umm, it is taboo for some people.
Believe it or not just because something is natural doesn't make it taboo in the eyes of an unnatural society.

 

[Olivia]

Sometimes, it's not just one's curiosity, it's also a lack of trust or respect from the parents. Too pathetic arrogant and stupid to realize the point. Sometimes it's good they get into it, suffer, whisk them out. Just how you'd dunk a biscuit into hot milk.

This 15 year old girl has had sex 500 times;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KRdJ49ItMnc

 

[Dissonance]

Sometimes, it's not just one's curiosity, it's also a lack of trust or respect from the parents. Too pathetic arrogant and stupid to realize the point. Sometimes it's good they get into it, suffer, whisk them out. Just how you'd dunk a biscuit into hot milk.

This 15 year old girl has had sex 500 times;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KRdJ49ItMnc

Compare with http://youtube.com/watch?v=PwR7hEi5RGA&feature=related for amazing results.

 

[Olivia]

Yes indeed, I already saw it in related search, I cracked up laughing.

She already sounds like a demon normally, but in slow, it's worse.

 

[Dissonance]

Yes indeed, I already saw it in related search, I cracked up laughing.

She already sounds like a demon normally, but in slow, it's worse.

AHM FAYUFTAYEEN YAERS ALD AN AHM GANNA HAYUVEA BAYBEH

 

[___]

Sometimes, it's not just one's curiosity, it's also a lack of trust or respect from the parents. Too pathetic arrogant and stupid to realize the point. Sometimes it's good they get into it, suffer, whisk them out. Just how you'd dunk a biscuit into hot milk.

This 15 year old girl has had sex 500 times;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KRdJ49ItMnc

Please don't link anything that retarded ever again :*(  Please.  Think of the children.  :***(

 

[Olivia]

Children? I think children should be able to realize what fools they'll look like when they get older if they think they can "do anything they want".

I think if anyone sees someone else do something like that and sees it's retarded, if course they won't do it. Unless they're nasty.

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

Or they'll think the logical thing and go "I'm not like that, that won't happen to me".

The amazement isn't that you can point to the bad apple and scare a few kids, the amazement is that someone'll go "Nope, not my life" and do what they would've done anyway.

I had to see a group of people who had all sorts of STDs show off all these scabs all over their arms and backs from HIV, various other things.  I've had to look at pictures of Meth-Mouth.  I had to sit and listen to a bunch of grown men either try to act all tough or tragic to scare us straight so we won't go to prison.

Everything I was warned about, not to do, I did?  Why?
Because that's not me, I won't be like that.  That's someone else, their story is stupid because I wouldn't be in that situation.  Young invincibility is a beautifully tragic thing.  Even when your friends end up like those, you continue saying "Their mistake, not mine, I won't be like that - hell, I'll never get half of like that".

You don't even learn from their lessons, instead you simply rely on that "I won't be in the situation, I don't have to be careful about it, because I won't be there".

Then it happens, and your shocked.  Looking at something else will NEVER save anyone in numbers worth showing off.

 

[___]

You say that and I assume you must have never met the exact kind of girl who will watch that stupid crap and think to herself, "Yeah, that's right, I can do what I want."  That stupid, stupid girl is sadly probably someone's role model now.

Supposing it's because she didn't listen to her parents is probably off-base though.  Her mom raised her, intentionally or accidentally, to be like that, to whatever extent that you want to believe in a nurturer's ability to impact a child's personality (the jury is really still out on that one, sorry).

Sixty is 100% right, anyway.  I am one of the kind of people who doesn't listen to the advice of others and must learn things for myself.  I never believed I was invincible, and I do learn my lessons rather well, but being lied to as an attempt to protect me has always infuriated me and driven me to do the exact opposite of what the liar wants me to do.  I've done just about everything anyone tried to scare me out of doing at least once that looked interesting to me and learned why not to do many of them from personal experience.  Not everyone is like me though.

 

[kumoKami]

Well, I'm not like that :c I can pretty much see for myself what to do and what not to do without having to experience myself first. I'm a very psychological person, and I think about the worst case scenarios before doing anything, and see if the risk is worth taking. Of course I'm never absolutely sure and/or right about my assumptions, for better or for worse :3
What I do know is that when I have sex, I'll do it with protection; until I'm married to the girl I love and want to have a baby. But then again, things might not work out as planned :2

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

Everyone says that kumoKami.
Almost every pregnant teen I ever knew, or almost every guy who got a chick pregnant in high school all said the same thing.

Not saying you can't, or won't, keep to your words.  But saying is a lot easier than doing.  How many girlfriends in HS did I have that all said they were saving themselves for marriage, and truly meant it - for a time at least.  How many guys did I know who didn't want to be drug dealers, and meant it - for a time at least.  Hell I knew a lot of guys who were saving themselves, and a lot of chicks who didn't want to be dealers - but again, mostly for a time at least.

God I miss high school.  So much hope.

 

[___]

Yeah you'd be surprised, when you're in a situation, how much easier it is to say, "... aw fuck it."  Fortunately I avoided those kind of situations until I was married and in my 20s but sure enough, one "aw fuck it" and 9 months later and I have a baby due. 

As for drugs, honestly, if you have a weak will and a tendency to bend to peer pressure, avoid them because you'll probably get hooked, but if you have a weak will and a tendency to bend to peer pressure... well, yeah, enjoy your drugs.  

Otherwise, personally, I've done some things that they tell you will ruin your life or get you hopelessly addicted after the first try and walked away clean with a more informed point of view and a better understanding of what the big deal is.  I understand now what a drug abuser feels and I have a lot more sympathy than when I was a little "fuck them, it's their own problem for being morons" asshole.  I'm sure not just anyone can try something once or twice and then resist the craving to do it again, but for those of us who can the understanding you gain from personal experience is so much more valuable.

Er please don't take that as me advocating that anyone try addictive drugs, they really are bad, mkay

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

Yeah I can agree on that.
Take it from a former abuser it's easier to say I'll never do, and then do, then it is anything else.  Actually correct that, the only thing easier is to say you'll do and then go out and do it.

It's far easier to give in twice than it is to give in once, and each time gets easier and easier.  It's like that with everything.  Once you do something, you want to do it again - hell I'm not even talking drugs or sex now, ever have a really good cake?  Bet you want that cake again don't you?
Ever get talked into eating some weird strange food that was really good?  Or at least seemed really good?  Want it again right?  Won't be hard to talk you in right?

 

[kumoKami]

Haha well yeah, hence the part where I said things might not go out as planned. I do have very strict lines though, I'll never touch cigarettes, or drugs. I drink Alcohol socially, and probably do it more often when I'm at age. As for sex, my line says that I'll do it as safe as I can. Knowing my luck, I'll be seduced probably a few years from now, with no protection at hand. What I'll do is something I don't really know, it depends who the girl will be in that case. I do hope I manage to keep that promise I made to myself.
Edit: Oh and please, call me kumo :3

 

[kipani]

I'm stupid and got knocked up myself :x I don't want it but I don't wanna kill it either. Adopted parents are just as good or bad as real parents. It's mainly men who are abusive because they don't feel the same connection women do.

And ehh.. In my defense I didn't think I could have kids. My doctor said I couldn't. She said because my periods were so irregular I couldn't have them. And BC would help regulate them but it put a lump in my breast and I flipped out and stopped taking them. Granny died of breastcancer ._.

Nowww I'm in a pinch. I hope I'll feel differently when its born. Right now my boyfriend is pressuring me to give it up for adoption even though I feel morally inclined to keep it. I love him a lot and this is building up a lot of resentment from me to him. Hes a stoner so It took me almost 2 years to get pregnant. Since his sperm is as retarded as he is -_-

 

[Dissonance]

I'm stupid and got knocked up myself :x I don't want it but I don't wanna kill it either. Adopted parents are just as good or bad as real parents. It's mainly men who are abusive because they don't feel the same connection women do.

And ehh.. In my defense I didn't think I could have kids. My doctor said I couldn't. She said because my periods were so irregular I couldn't have them. And BC would help regulate them but it put a lump in my breast and I flipped out and stopped taking them. Granny died of breastcancer ._.

Nowww I'm in a pinch. I hope I'll feel differently when its born. Right now my boyfriend is pressuring me to give it up for adoption even though I feel morally inclined to keep it. I love him a lot and this is building up a lot of resentment from me to him. Hes a stoner so It took me almost 2 years to get pregnant. Since his sperm is as retarded as he is -_-

Then dump him???

You really got yourself in a bind here.  If you're as young as you sound abortion is pretty much the only option because life with a teen mother or life in today's adoption joints is pretty much a fate worse than death.