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Sorry for this but: WOMAN RAPES CHILD; NOT CONSIDERED RAPE.

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Nachos":1rngjefl said:
Venetia":1rngjefl said:
that seems rather apt

i don't think i'd be interested in a 21-year-old but yeah i don't think it'd be gross or weird to get with one either

damn :down:

You're not using your head; Combined you and I are 42.

You know what we must do.
 
In UK law a woman cannot rape a man, but that can be done for sexual assault and various counts of child abuse.
There's actually a charity for men who have been raped (mostly by other men) but I believe they have a lot who are victims of women and need support for the trauma as they can't convict.

The numbers of women committing rape is tiny compared to men, it's like .5% of reported rapes or something. I'll try to find the numbers.

All this post is UK based

Edit: all this stuff in the UK was highlighted when a female pedophile ring was uncovered, they were all groomed by a bloke to do it so I'm not sure if any laws were actually revised, but it shocked the country that women could do such a thing, apparently they are automatically immune to certain laws.

In the cases of child custody, the UK favours the mother over the father at all times, it is only when the mother is psychotic or on drugs that the father may have sole custody, in fact our law tends to give children who are victims of abuse right back to their abusers which is why I don't support some charities who support this practise, NSCPP believe in returning abused children to their parents.

Could be worse, could be Texas
 

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Venetia":13wrnwm5 said:
we need a fucking vigilante to purge the world of scumbags like this
if the law won't do it, someone's gotta be batman

it's funny you mention this, because I've wanted to hear opinions on it.

like, if vigilante justice and retaliation killing were legalized, where would the world go?

but that's asking to derail the topic so whatever.
 
Spooky":1tywwltp said:
like, if vigilante justice and retaliation killing were legalized, where would the world go?
probably nowhere good if it were really widely legally sanctioned.

that's why it'd need to be some kind of MASKED vigilante. the kind with MONEY and CONNECTIONS. and a KICKASS PHYSIQUE and years of MARTIAL ARTS TRAINING.

he'd also have to know how to be a DETECTIVE ... and would probably need a servant to keep his shit in order. Maybe a BUTLER of some sort
 

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fuck your standards I will be this vigilate you make my words and everyone else can just catch a boat to Fuck-Offity-land.
 
Man, that's absolutely despicable. I really hope this event causes that law to be revisited.

I'm actually just going to leave it at this and if you guys want to discuss it among yourselves then feel free but I think the article itself speaks volumes about how misandry is not a myth and male hating isn't an uncommon occurrence.
I don't think anyone with a brain denies that men face a hell of a lot of legal discrimination. Not just with rape but also things like alimony, custody, child support, etc.

To anyone wondering why I hold a great deal of disdain towards the feminist movement and anything pertaining to it then here you are.
This isn't relevant, and I wish you hadn't brought it up because I don't want to get into another dumb argument about it. Being feminist and supporting men's rights are absolutely not mutually exclusive. Writing off the entire feminist movement and not just the bad parts (which, to be fair, are most of it) is just as bad as writing off the entire male rights movement.
 

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Yeah I was kind of in a bad mood after reading the article and ended up ranting near the end of the post.

That's all I'm going to say about that since as you said it would end up in a huge shit blizzard like last time; I'll agree to disagree at the last thing you said.
 
Okay. To be fair, feminism as a movement has been basically completely ruined by radicals and lobbyists, so I don't really blame you for your opinion. It just sucks that there isn't really a good option for people who think that everyone's problems are important and we should sit down and solve them like adults.
 
Perihelion":344usuwz said:
Okay. To be fair, feminism as a movement has been basically completely ruined by radicals and lobbyists, so I don't really blame you for your opinion. It just sucks that there isn't really a good option for people who think that everyone's problems are important and we should sit down and solve them like adults.
And this is the voice of reason I had been looking for a few days ago when I linked a facebook page with roughly 600 photos of people saying why they need feminism. Ven wouldn't even look at it because of the word feminism, which I found really...odd. I realize the movement has been thoroughly stained, but at the same time, until we get a new word, that's all we've got to call it.

And before anyone even considers suggesting Equalism as a name, please, watch Avatar: The Legend of Korra. That's already off on the wrong foot.
 
Glitchfinder":1kvthky8 said:
And this is the voice of reason I had been looking for a few days ago when I linked a facebook page with roughly 600 photos of people saying why they need feminism. Ven wouldn't even look at it because of the word feminism, which I found really...odd. I realize the movement has been thoroughly stained, but at the same time, until we get a new word, that's all we've got to call it.

And before anyone even considers suggesting Equalism as a name, please, watch Avatar: The Legend of Korra. That's already off on the wrong foot.
I think a lot of women don't like to call themselves feminists or associate themselves with feminism because they don't want people to think they're crazy man-haters. I know I don't run around calling myself a feminist all the time for that reason, and I don't want to speak for Ven, but I imagine that might be part of it for her as well. The extremists have driven most of the rational moderates away, but unlike a political party or something, there isn't really anywhere else to go if you care about women's issues. Although it beats me what the hell you're supposed to do if you care about men's issues just as much. I think activist organizations of all kinds naturally tend towards extremism over time, though.

I guess I can understand the "fuck you I got mine" mentality, but the thing that really gets me about feminist extremism is that it's often actively counterproductive. I mean, take hiring bias against women. A lot of that has to do with employers not wanting to pay for maternity leave, and the only real solution is to even the playing field by implementing mandatory paternity leave for men, but all you'll ever hear from the feminist lobby is noise about oppressed women. God forbid we do anything that might benefit both genders. Plus, the warlike attitude a lot of feminists espouse creates the exact same attitude in men in defense, which makes the entire situation worse.

I just wish people on both sides would stop looking at this as a zero sum game. I don't think we're ever gonna accomplish real gender equality without looking at both sides of the equation.
 

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No, I'm with Ven on this one. There's no point in spending time bringing attention to yourself as a protester when you could instead be bringing attention to yourself as a dedicated, hard worker willing to show that you'll work just as well or better than men (or women, depending on the field, I guess).
 
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