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Religion, what do you think?

What is your Religion?

  • Christianity

    Votes: 41 31.3%
  • Judaism

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Islam

    Votes: 6 4.6%
  • None

    Votes: 68 51.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 15 11.5%

  • Total voters
    131
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daxisheart - quit trying to be an arrogant know-it-all. it ain't a good look.

also - science never proved for a fact that god doesn't exist - and it more-than-likely never will. i'd like to know these facts you speak of which supposedly accomplish this.

blackspets":3oosr8ev said:
forget the bty at the end I meant to spell btw which means by the way
you can edit your posts for small things like that. theres a button on the bottom-right of your posts which let you make changes.
 
Venetia: yeah, that's pretty much my thought process. I won't deny.

Cruetly: I am pretty arrogant. Anyways, I'm using stuff like carbon dating and that as proof which pretty much denies the stuff in religion and all that.

ДГъíтÉГ: Go to a slaughterhouse, then. I notice no one there seems to CARE about the animal's screams, thinking that humanity is not an animal...

If evidence of gods or any proof of religion appears, then I'll agree with them that it exist. Simple enough...

So because you are "anti-religion" you want to prove that God does not exist? I'm anti-killing-random-people but I don't try and prove that it doesn't exist. You see, it's people like you that give people who either don't care about religion or people who don't believe in it but don't interfere with anybody else's beliefs a bad name. "I AM ANTI-RELIGION I DO NOT BELIEVE IN RELIGION THEREFOR I MUST PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" yeah so with that I leave you with this.

Um... evidence of killing random people exist.

I try to prove religion doesn't exist because it's a waste of time. Crusades and using god as justification of killing people and hitler, too many examples of people using god and/or supernatural stuff for bad purposes. Think of how much time, money, and energy is wasted, when those rescouces could have gone to better things.

Akuma?
Ryu
Ken
HADOKEN!

I have no udea what you're talking about, although I think it might have to do with street fighter. I'm studying like, four languages at once, and so my japanese is so far behind... I barely know what I wrote myself.
 

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Daxisheart":20kybj1i said:
If evidence of gods or any proof of religion appears, then I'll agree with them that it exist. Simple enough...

There's loads of proof of religion - for example the existence of life itself and material goods.
 
First, it's worded a bit wrong: I'm trying to prove that all religion is wrong, which is a bit better, although it's still missing something. God doesn't exist, Shiva doesn't exist, karma doesn't exist, so an and so forth. Religion exists, obviously, but they're all wrong. That's what I'm trying to prove. Obviously futile, but humanity doesn't really trying to stop reaching futile dreams.

Also, in slaughter houses they're stunned so they wouldn't scream, and those that aren't stunned are bolted in the back of the head so they still wouldn't scream.

This basically says right here that we don't care if they scream or not. Of course, scream is a bit too literal: we don't care for the suffering of animals. Besides, the point of what I wrote about the screaming was that there is no good or bad, not literally dealing with being able to hear an animal screaming or not. We don't really hear or listen to an animal's suffering, humanity as a whole.

I don't care how much I waste. Sorry, simple as that: I'm lazy, and I don't care. I can know all about the bad things in the world, but I won't really try to fix it unless it's easy. Selfishness: that's nature.

I'm a fifteen year old brat that thinks he knows everything. Can't even drive yet. Not a legal adult, can't even drink. What do you actually expect my to do as to not waste my existence on frivilous things like religion and debating whether religion exists? Enough people in the world waste their time, living just to live, screwing around just to screw, why should I do anything different? Too lazy.

The reason I said that there is evidence of killing random people is that I'm explaining why I'm not trying to prove that "killing random people" doens't exist- there is evidence that it exists, so I'm not going to try and prove that it doesn't. Evidence of a god existeing or religion being right doens't really exist: sure, there may be stories about floods and stuff all over the world, but that just means that something happened to the entire world, like an ice age or whatever, that can be scientifically proven or whatever. I'm not saying that it has been scientifically proven, I'm saying that the potential for it to be proven scientifically is there, unlike religion or whatever.

There's loads of proof of religion - for example the existence of life itself and material goods.

Umm... why does our existence prove that religion exists? A christian religion seems to say that god was already there... why can't life just be like that, that it appears, already there or something...?

Okay, bad argument. It's hard to phrase what I want to say/mean without it getting shot down...

Why can't life just appear? Why does it have to have a higher meaning behind it, have to be made for some kind of purpose? Nature has only a single purpose: to exist and keep existing, to live and keep existing, no matter what happens. Why do we have to be made and all that?

Still can't phrase what I mean exactly.

Material goods? I'm not too sure what you mean by that and how it can prove that a religion is "correct" or exists or whatever.
 

Jason

Awesome Bro

Daxisheart":3emcgopi said:
First, it's worded a bit wrong: I'm trying to prove that all religion is wrong, which is a bit better, although it's still missing something. God doesn't exist, Shiva doesn't exist, karma doesn't exist, so an and so forth. Religion exists, obviously, but they're all wrong. That's what I'm trying to prove. Obviously futile, but humanity doesn't really trying to stop reaching futile dreams.

Also, in slaughter houses they're stunned so they wouldn't scream, and those that aren't stunned are bolted in the back of the head so they still wouldn't scream.

This basically says right here that we don't care if they scream or not. Of course, scream is a bit too literal: we don't care for the suffering of animals. Besides, the point of what I wrote about the screaming was that there is no good or bad, not literally dealing with being able to hear an animal screaming or not. We don't really hear or listen to an animal's suffering, humanity as a whole.

I don't care how much I waste. Sorry, simple as that: I'm lazy, and I don't care. I can know all about the bad things in the world, but I won't really try to fix it unless it's easy. Selfishness: that's nature.

I'm a fifteen year old brat that thinks he knows everything. Can't even drive yet. Not a legal adult, can't even drink. What do you actually expect my to do as to not waste my existence on frivilous things like religion and debating whether religion exists? Enough people in the world waste their time, living just to live, screwing around just to screw, why should I do anything different? Too lazy.

The reason I said that there is evidence of killing random people is that I'm explaining why I'm not trying to prove that "killing random people" doens't exist- there is evidence that it exists, so I'm not going to try and prove that it doesn't. Evidence of a god existeing or religion being right doens't really exist: sure, there may be stories about floods and stuff all over the world, but that just means that something happened to the entire world, like an ice age or whatever, that can be scientifically proven or whatever. I'm not saying that it has been scientifically proven, I'm saying that the potential for it to be proven scientifically is there, unlike religion or whatever.

There's loads of proof of religion - for example the existence of life itself and material goods.

Umm... why does our existence prove that religion exists? A christian religion seems to say that god was already there... why can't life just be like that, that it appears, already there or something...?

Okay, bad argument. It's hard to phrase what I want to say/mean without it getting shot down...

Why can't life just appear? Why does it have to have a higher meaning behind it, have to be made for some kind of purpose? Nature has only a single purpose: to exist and keep existing, to live and keep existing, no matter what happens. Why do we have to be made and all that?

Still can't phrase what I mean exactly.

Material goods? I'm not too sure what you mean by that and how it can prove that a religion is "correct" or exists or whatever.

I've got no idea what dope your smoking but pass that shit here !

"Why can't life just appear?"

Because don't you think it'd be a little strange that one day.. POOF, and everything is here ? There has to be a reason why that happened, WHY did life "just appear" ? WHY are we existing, what is the purpose of everything we know ? Both science and religion are trying to find out, both have crazy ideas and theories, and either one could be right.

These people are trying to find out WHY we're here, HOW we got here, and then there's people such as yourself who are like "Laa laa, we're here, don't know, don't care, but we are, laa laa", which is pretty boring if you ask me... And don't blame it on your age, cause that's just a lame excuse if you ask me, I was thinking about things like this when I was younger, and I chose to believe that science can proove more than religion on how we were created, because I think that their theories, although completely whacked in the head, sound more logical and believable.

Comprendé ?
 
Edit: In reference to Cruelty's post. It's a bit late, but I felt a need to correct this common mistake.
"וַיֹּאמֶר ה' אֶל לִבּוֹ: לֹא אֹסִף לְקַלֵּל עוֹד אֶת הָאֲדָמָה בַּעֲבוּר הָאָדָם, כִּי יֵצֶר לֵב הָאָדָם רַע מִנְּעֻרָיו"
This is the full sentence from the bible referring to 'humans being bad from youth'.
I don't know how Christianity takes this, but here's the Judaism's way.
Translation: And G-D said in his heart: I will no longer curse the land because of the human kind, as the impulse of their heart is bad from youth.
Did you notice? This is the reason to not punish humans- thus- a good thing !
How is this a good thing..? Well, first of all, there is a dual meaning here: from youth or because youth.
If you select the first meaning, why not punish them?
Let's consider the second meaning- If I told you my cloth became dirty, you'll figure it wasn't dirty before. Same goes for humans- they are born pure, but then became bad. Why do they become bad at youth you may ask? this is a question many of the early bible translators tried to solve. Maybe it's the fact kids have impulses, but don't have the self control('the mind' as judaism calls it) yet. By the time they grow up, the bad behaviour becomes a habit which is hard (but not impossible) to get rid of. Therefore, as long as human kids are born pure (even though their parents are completely corrupted), there's still hope for them- and G-D promises to not bring another flood.

Daxisheart, Want a fact?
Try the fact that there's no single area in the brain responsible to consciousness. If you ask me, this proves the brain is a 'cloth' for the human soul.
It cannot create consciousness on its own, though is it required for life like the heart/lounges.
 
Why we're here? natural instincts make us reproduce and keep on, I've stressed that in one of my previous posts already.

Isn't god already there, then? like life, did he just
one day.. POOF

How we're here: life one day appeared, not gonna stress how, and evolution brought us here. Religion simply gives meaning to that, a meaning that leads people on and waste stuff/energy and all that. In response to religion, I believe that we're all just here as animals and as a comparatively higher type of animals, but still animals in the end, and religion just tries to prove we aren't, that we're something higher than an animal.

Why should we care why we're here? It's pointless, once you think about it. Kill youself, and everything is going to end. We ARE here, we EXIST, and we EXIST to continue to exist.

What do you mean, blame it on my age? I said that in response to wasting energy and whatever, nothing about if my stuff is stupid because of my age. I didn't use it as an excuse in the manner you're talking of.
 

Jason

Awesome Bro

How we're here: life one day appeared

I have a question for you.... HOW ?

How did we just "appear" ? Cause there has to be some meaning to why we're here, there's a reason for everything...

I bet you can think of a reason for EVERYTHING you do and what you've ever done, but I bet you can't think of a reason of why we're here. You say "evolution brought us here", okay, and HOW did it bring us here ? Did it drop us off in a taxi ? What started evolution, why did we evolve into humans and not something else ? You can't just say "Because it did", because alot of people want to know why we're here, what purpose are we serving except existing ? There HAS to be a reason why we're here, we wouldn't just be pointless creations, would we ?

And to your "Didn't god just poof" thing, I don't believe in God, and I've stated why I believe in science over religion :thumb:
 
One evening I left my pen on the table on a peace of paper, and went to sleep.
When I woke up, I found out the wind that blew all night has moved the pen and wrote letters which became a great poem!

..
You don't believe me?
If you can't believe a few lines of text were made by accident, why do you believe the entire galaxy can ??
 

Jason

Awesome Bro

silver wind":3tbpqj4u said:
One evening I left my pen on the table on a peace of paper, and went to sleep.
When I woke up, I found out the wind that blew all night has moved the pen and wrote letters which became a great poem!

..
You don't believe me?
If you can't believe a few lines of text were made by accident, why do you believe the entire galaxy can ??

*scratches head* Who are you aiming that at ?

And PS. I wouldn't believe that shit if I saw it with my own eyes, maybe a scribble, but not a poem... Otherwise it wouldn't be an accident.
 

Jason

Awesome Bro

Yeah same here but just to make sure I was giving my view on it, lol. By the way, one of your posts has been named my best quote ever :thumb:
 

Jason

Awesome Bro

silver wind":112l4c2p said:
But the story was true, honestly !! It happened to a friend of a fried of mine!
Why don't you believe me?

Because it just doesn't seem logical, I mean sure, if it made a scribble along paper that looked like an image, I might believe you, but writing an entire poem by just the wind blowing, that just seems like utter bullshit to me, and if it WAS true (I have 0% proof that it is or isn't), then I'd say it's either a sign that God DOES exist although I strongly disagree with religion, or the house is haunted and the evil spirits are trying to send a message, but this isn't one of those stupid "Ghost hunter reality tv" shows now, is it...
 
Umm... Silver wind's stuff didn't really make sense to me if it was directed to me. I basically believe that everything is pointless, so we just have to exist to exist, that there isn't a reason for anything. Maybe there's a reason something happened, but that doesn't mean that it's part of some huge reason for this world or whatever. Why can't we be pointless creations? Life would be so much cooler, think of the money spent on religion worldwide everyyear, and imagine converting that into things like helping stabilizing the economy or donated to some foundation for the poor.

Just cause there's a reason for everything doesn't mean that the reason is good, makes sense, or is supposed to actually mean something. Not that I believe that there's a reason for everything.

And about human evolution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution. That's how we got here. And I won't debate wikipedia's credibility; for some reason, people think every word is crap.

And I believe a few lines of text can be made by accident. It's just a monkey, typewriter, and infinite time kind of thing. Not so sure what the galaxy part means in this.

And, uh, I'm a aetheist or whatever, Jbrist, so... yeah, I was always on the against god in the first place.


EDIT: Like. 5 posts occured while I was writing this, so I'm a bit behind.
 
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