PS3 vs Xbox 360

[Buster]

PS3: Resistance, FFXII, Heavenly Sword, Assassins Creed etc. (No good games my arse!)

Um, first off, FFXII is for PS2. Secondly, Heavenly Sword ISN'T EVEN OUT YET! Also, Assassin's Creed is also coming out for the Xbox 360.

I'm with the Xbox 360 right now, mainly for two reasons: The PS3 is way overpriced (Yeah, yeah blu-ray and all that completely "revolutionary" crap that's exactly the same, just bigger), and there aren't enough games worthy of a purchase, imo. And don't bring up the "It's only been out for a few months" crap. That's just all the reason more for me to like the Xbox 360 more.

I also like the 360 because the controller feels much more comfortable than the PS3's. (Is it just me, or is it uncomfortably light to everyone else too?)

EDIT: Oh, and Xbox Live rocks.

 

[Zankoku no Yami]

Um, first off, FFXII is for PS2. Secondly, Heavenly Sword ISN'T EVEN OUT YET! Also, Assassin's Creed is also coming out for the Xbox 360.

I'm with the Xbox 360 right now, mainly for two reasons: The PS3 is way overpriced (Yeah, yeah blu-ray and all that completely "revolutionary" crap that's exactly the same, just bigger), and there aren't enough games worthy of a purchase, imo. And don't bring up the "It's only been out for a few months" crap. That's just all the reason more for me to like the Xbox 360 more.

I also like the 360 because the controller feels much more comfortable than the PS3's. (Is it just me, or is it uncomfortably light to everyone else too?)

EDIT: Oh, and Xbox Live rocks.

There arent enough games worthy of purchase for the xbox 360 either; and counting its been over a year, thats a pretty good reason to not get IT either, hehe. And most of the decent games on it, are also out or if not yet, are coming out for the PS3 (funny how the sony and microsoft are stealing each others exclusives or big titles, I think it is, at least).

And for those thinking HDDVD is going to win, well, think about it. Even the big people like hollywood and disney are attempting to switch over to blueray. Sorry, but when the best you can dish out is, what, 8 gigs on a duel layered DVD? You are going to run into some problems. You can only do so much with that little room, even if you have something to ampt up the graphics (how about have the graphics already ampted up and then ampt them up some more, hmm?). Where as, a regular blue ray is... what? 3 times that, and a duel layered blue ray can carry about 50 gigs.

As we should recall, DVDs were expensive as hell when they first came out too. They ARE what replaced CDs, which were also very expensive in the beginning too. Cheaper than cartrages, but still a good price if you wanted to go out and buy them yourselves. Unless you find a deal, I still see DVDs for a dollar a disc (even more for duel layered). And that is many years later. I can only assume that blueray will also lower its price in time. And it all comes down to the companies having to make back all that money in the beginning, in which they spent developing the new technology. And as technology advances, we all know the older stuff goes down on price; how else can they lower the prices on the systems after several years and still make a prophet? I remember when CD's were a dollar a piece!! (I cant say how expensive CDs and DVDs were to start, but counting they could be that price at one time, and suddenly have CDs drop down to 10 cents... heh, well, that says alot)

In my opinion, blueray is just ahead of its time, and people can't accept it just yet. Whenever anything is ahead of its time, people react that way. Then sooner or later, it becomes the main format in which we use.

I am so going to get slammed down with a bunch of facts since i dont have any, but oh well~ (either that or be ignored, haha!)

 

[holloway]

There arent enough games worthy of purchase for the xbox 360 either; and counting its been over a year, thats a pretty good reason to not get IT either, hehe. And most of the decent games on it, are also out or if not yet, are coming out for the PS3 (funny how the sony and microsoft are stealing each others exclusives or big titles, I think it is, at least).

The backwards compatibility notwithstanding, Dead Rising, Gears Of War, Lost Planet, GRAW 2 and Viva Pinata are out exclusive at the minute and are pretty damn good. You then have all your future releases that are exclusive like; Fable 2, Halo 3, Halo Wars, Mass Effect and Dead Rising 2 in the next year.
And these are all exclusives.

And for those thinking HDDVD is going to win, well, think about it. Even the big people like hollywood and disney are attempting to switch over to blueray. Sorry, but when the best you can dish out is, what, 8 gigs on a duel layered DVD? You are going to run into some problems. You can only do so much with that little room, even if you have something to ampt up the graphics (how about have the graphics already ampted up and then ampt them up some more, hmm?). Where as, a regular blue ray is... what? 3 times that, and a duel layered blue ray can carry about 50 gigs.

Does it really matter? If I'm buying a console, I don't give a damn if it's running Blue-Ray, HD-DVD or Wii's own discs, so lnog as it does the job of giving me a game. We managed perfectly fine on the PS1 with multiple CDs now didn't we.


I should highlight that I am no Microsoft fanboy- until 5 months ago I wouldn't have dreamed of owning an Xbox because I never saw any appeal in it (and whatever specs they have, you need to want a console to buy it), but the way the 3600 has handled itself has impressed me- and it seems to have the sort of games that I want - multiplayer bursts of fun.

 

[arcthemonkey]

Firstly, PS3 claimed to have '4D' graphics, it doesn't even have bumbmap (sp?) graphics (individual bricks, textures on the floor, sand grains etc./whatever).

Completely false. PS3 renders and displays bump maps just as well as the 360 does, and EVERY game I own on PS3 (Motorstorm, Oblivion, Resistance, and Tony Hawk) have bump mapping in them.

Sony's best feature for the PS3 is the Blue-Ray. I've known people who've jsut brushed a hair of a disc and its stopped working. The Blue-Ray is why it costs so much, but you have to buy extra cables to allow Blue-Ray to work, it doesn't come with the PS3?

Again, simply false. I willing to venture you DO NOT know anyone who's scratched a Blu-ray with a hair, and you do not need extra cables for Blu-ray playback.

PS3's 'menu' (the icons at the top which you can switch between) can't be updated to add more and on switching to videos/music (can't remember which one) you have to wait for all of them to load before you can move to the next slide.

For the third time, completely 100% false. Whoever told you new tabs could never be added to the media bar was frikkin lying to you. There's no reason to believe this. It's hardly a downside anyway, since there are plenty of tabs to begin with. Also, I have 12GB of videos, music, and pictures on my PS3 and it never so much as pauses as you scroll across the bar.

The PS3 is quiet. Because it hasn't got enough fans. My friend warmed up pies next to his PS3 (properly), and I'm not joking. So far the PS3 has caused 300 fire related deaths!!

Your friend sounds like a boring person. It would have been more interesting if he had cooked a pancakes or somesuch. The air around the PS3 heats up because it's cooled very efficiently with heatpipes and fans. This means the INSIDE is cool. The inside is kept cool, quietly. The 360 on the otherhand runs just as hot, and is noisy as all hell.

Also, nobody has EVER been killed in a PS3 related fire. How did a single kid's practical joke about his house being burned down turn into 300 dead? As far as the media, "the record", or fact goes, nothing has ever been burned down by a PS3.

Next we've got the 360. All bugs have been fixed. Aparently you can get a new free one if yours breaks or 'melts' (which has never happened to mine, which was bought from the first batch).

I'm starting to wonder if you have any discernment at all. 360s are STILL notorious for being bricked, and there is no reason to believe all the bugs have been fixed (Never mind the fact that the PS3 is demonstatably the more reliable hardware). They also do no replace them for free, unless they are under warrenty (which only lasts 90 days if you don't pay extra).

The 360 has constant updates online. Arcade games, demos, trailers and expansion packs all online. A new dashboard slide is being added soon. It has a 20GB hardrive and there is going to be a 120GB hardrive released soon, which allows files to be transfered.

The PS3 recieves store updates every thursday, and the library is steadily growing with demos (Ninja Gaiden just went up), trailers, and arcade games. The harddrive thing will never be a selling point for the 360, since it hardly utilizes it (not at all for games), and is only used for media storage. The PS3's hardrive is a standard format harddrive as well, meaning for the price of a 120GB 360 harddrive, you can get a 200GB+ hard drive for your PS3, and you can use the OLD drive in you computer.

As to the games. All of them have amazing gameplay and graphics. Every brick, every grain of sand can be seen seperately. The door knobs can even be seen from the side. In the new game Mass Effect all the facial features move and and wrinkle; the conversations are also realtime, which allows you to interrupt people; not just talking over but pulling them by their collar and shouting at them.

Door nobs can be seen from the side? What? How is this relevant? I mean, ignoring the fact that the 360 has scads of outright ugly games, you can not in ANY game see every grain of sand. Also, I dunno if you came from playing NES to the 360, but you've been able to see "every brick" for a loooooong time. If you're talking about normal/bump maps, that's not an especially common feature for bricks. The conversation system in Mass Effect is hardly a feature to tout as being a plus to an entire console, since it's just a design decision and not something that's technically limiting. You could walk away from people who are talking in Chrono Trigger too. (AND you could see every brick) I should also point out that Resistance has some really nifty facial animation, and the Heavy Rain facial animation demo, while being in its earliest stages of development, kicked the socks off of Mass Effect and is a PS3 project.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:933123_20060519_screen001.jpg

I like both the PS3 and 360, and I am sure as hell looking forward to Mass Effect, but pretty much every word in you post was just plain false.

Try again!

Also, it's been established that Blu-ray disks are extremely scratch resistant. Feel free to look it up, but they are far more resistant than standard DVDs.

 

[Andy6000]

unless they are under warrenty (which only lasts 90 days if you don't pay extra).

I think they extended the warranties to cover a year (including those already sold).

Also, they're notorious for being bricked? The PSP is the only thing I've even heard of bricking, and that's only when you happen to be hacking the flash memory up to bits. Would you happen to be doing the same thing to the Xbox when it was bricked too?

Also Halo 3 is probably going to be a prettier Halo 2 with some new weapons. And Halo 2 lost the charm that Halo 1's co-op had, so Halo 3 is probably going to just kill the campaign's fun altogether. It'll be great.

Still looking forward to Devil May Cry 4. That and Metal Gear Solid 4 were the two reasons I was pretty hellbent on buying a PS3, but you know, one game now doesn't really justify me a big system purchase. I'll probably just watch youtube videos of the cutscenes or somesuch.

 

[Zankoku no Yami]

The backwards compatibility notwithstanding, Dead Rising, Gears Of War, Lost Planet, GRAW 2 and Viva Pinata are out exclusive at the minute and are pretty damn good. You then have all your future releases that are exclusive like; Fable 2, Halo 3, Halo Wars, Mass Effect and Dead Rising 2 in the next year.
And these are all exclusives.



Does it really matter? If I'm buying a console, I don't give a damn if it's running Blue-Ray, HD-DVD or Wii's own discs, so lnog as it does the job of giving me a game. We managed perfectly fine on the PS1 with multiple CDs now didn't we.


I should highlight that I am no Microsoft fanboy- until 5 months ago I wouldn't have dreamed of owning an Xbox because I never saw any appeal in it (and whatever specs they have, you need to want a console to buy it), but the way the 3600 has handled itself has impressed me- and it seems to have the sort of games that I want - multiplayer bursts of fun.

Hated Gears of War, one of those kinds of games that is only fun when played through once... hated Lost Planet, simply because I dont like to have to keep fighting and collecting heat to stay alive. Sorry, but the game would have actually been fun if that factor was left out, imo. But of course, there are always good exclusives for each system, i just dont see any out atm for any of the systems. But we can't forget, exclusives are often times what sell systems! I only got a gamecube because of Wind Waker, thats what sold it for me. Nothing has sold me on the xbox, and nothing has yet to sell me on the 360 either.

Well, it does matter about the size of the blueray when it comes to what people are saying. That the discs are too expensive. Well, its like 3 DVDs in one. So 1) you will be spending a good load of money using multiple DVDs, not to mention exceeding 2 DVDs would really hurt a company unless they design a new case to hold 3. So 2 is really the limit, and they would most liekly be 2 duel layered ones. That raises the price right now 2) the blueray disc may be expensive atm, but soon enough it'll be much cheaper. Meaning you can get MORE storage, and probably never need to exceed more than one blueray, for well, quite a while! So in the long run, you'll be saving money. And I know that might be hard to follow... I had a hard time putting my thoughts together on that one... arg, whatever.

Oh, and i think I know why the 360 doesnt appeal to me now. I HATE multiplayer. I hate playing games online against other people. And really, thats all the 360 is good for. Online. Which, doesnt appeal to me at all! And the biggest games, are only big, because people LOVE the multiplayer online side of the game. Like my sister's b/f. He loves Gears of War, but only because of the online portion. Me on the other hand; i am looking for games I can just play and watch a story unfold. Like RPGs or Metal Gear Solid.

Which is why I am looking forward to FFXIII and Metal Gear Solid 4~! Those games alone will sell me on a PS3.

EDIT: One more note... doesnt the 360 still run off of normal DVDs? THe HDDVD player that came out for it, was an attachment, and last i heard, it could only be used to play movies. I am still a bit confused on what the 360 is doing here...

 

[kimpoy2006]

Blue-Ray discs are scratch proof? *this makes me want to try scratching one of my discs now*. There are really no games I am interested in on the Xbox360, so I gotta go for a PS3.

PS3 discs will be scratch proof (by the will, means that by now releases of blu-rays are scratch-proof. it takes months before discs are released out of the warehouses). This was assured by sony and some other company so that no person cries when they accidentally scratch the disc they paid for at like 50$.
Sony is trying to innovate the PS3 to the next generation. Unlike its younger brother, PS2, Sony wants the PS3 to last long when playing movies. The PS3 can be hooked up to PSP systems and has a whopping Terra-flop floating point (its like OMG! this PS3 will like be matched only in 5-7 years? By PCs I mean).
Ohh yeah the 1000$ price some guy was talking about, that was a blu-ray burner-disc player (thats what i heard and what the hell 1000$ just buy a PS3!).
27Gigs really gives an edge ya know,(blu-ray) umm its like a game that is HD and has HD movie cutscenes that can last an hour (<----correct me if I am wrong with this). You can make a really good game with that... unmatched

(buy sony! juzzz joking buy what ever you want that youre comfy with, this topic is nothing coz all the final decisions will be made by you!)

SO PEACE!:thumb:

~Le Roi de Soleil

 

[Buster]

Also Halo 3 is probably going to be a prettier Halo 2 with some new weapons. And Halo 2 lost the charm that Halo 1's co-op had, so Halo 3 is probably going to just kill the campaign's fun altogether. It'll be great.

Most people don't like Halo because of the campaign mode, but because of the multiplayer. That's why Halo 2 is so popular on Xbox Live. Of course, I'm not saying that awesome multiplayer makes up for a crappy campaign, just that most people are going to focus on multiplayer. Oh, and, from the looks of it, the multiplayer should indeed be pretty sweet.

 

[Grandor]

I like the PS3. They really did work hard on it and the graphics for it are really well done, even better then 360s. Xbox live is a good addon, but however I have to say I've always liked Sony and their quality has never let me down. PS3's prices will come down. When they do a lot more people will be changing their minds about it. Once they start releasing massive more games, then you're set. I'll stick to my PS2 for the time being. Though, I must say Xbox360's look is awesome.

 

[syvkal]

@arcthemonkey - Hey hey hey mr I know everything. Calm down.
Firstly, I've already said that i thought the death thing was real, but apparently it's not. Maybe you should read the rest of the posts.

As for everything else that I've posted it's all been true. And yes on HD TVs you can see things like every grain of sand.

As for the brick thing, you've not been reading it properly. I mean that you can see each brick stick out, not just a picture like on the PS3. And the door knob thing, I was saying that because it's nice to see things like that on a game.

The video/music thingy, I know thats true too.

Anyways, I don't want to get angry. So i'm off from this convo :P

I'll just let you PS3 fans do what you want.
But from what I've seen I really think Sony f**ked up ( <-- Am I allowed to say that? Awell just stared it out anyways).

Oh one last thing. On every shop when the 360 came out:
'We don't have 360s in stock. Don't ask.'

On every shop when the Wii came out:
'We don't have Wii in stock. Don't ask.'

On every shop when the PS3 came out:
'PS3 in stock now!'

Plus there's some stores doing (Pound sign)170 off the PS3s because they want to sell them.

 

[Calibre]

Sykval - Bricks stick out on each console, dependant upon who actually made the game... I'm pretty sure next generation consoles should be able to display pertruding bricks as standard... have you seen the textures of Resistance or the wet mudtracks of motorstorm on a HDTV dispaly with HDMI output?

Did you ever think that the amount available may well have been down to supply rather than demand. People demanding a PS3 had it supplied to them by Sony (albeit admittedly 5 months late), people who demanded a Wii Nintendo couldnt supply, same with the 360.

As Ia ssume you are from the UK, this is the Uk sales figures, funnily enough with the PS3 breaking all time console sale records:

Console Launch Weekend Sales

Xbox 360 71,000 units
Wii 105,000 units
PS3 165,000 units

...That looks like PS3 outsold 360's over double, yet if you want one they've still been made and shipped. Purposely limiting "hype" products in the oldest trick in the book. The argument for this was "Yeah but sales dropped by 82% in week 2". Yeah, Seeing as PS3 had already sold record numbers technically through pre-order, that was kind of inevitable.

AND...

If there are stores selling PS3's 170 pounds cheaper, then tell me where so I can buy them up and sell them on... Are you sure they don't say:

Save 170 pounds on the Sony PS3!

*When you trade-in your Microsoft Xbox360

 

[OdioOmnus]

In terms of pure power, the PS3 is superior to other consoles by a significant margin.

Power isn't everything, though. Until some excellent console-specific games are made for the PS3, Sony will be stuck in a rut.

 

[MasterMind]

@Cal - You may think that, but how many of those people actually kept their PS3? I could've sworn on eBay that I saw people bidding on ones for about $2000. I'm not saying that people weren't selling Wii's on eBay or 360's, but most people just bought a PS3 so they could triple their profits. Not a bad idea, but when I buy a system, I plan on keeping it. And consoles are always sold out on launch weekends. No matter what. And why is it that I must churn out $4000 just for the complete experience in a game? I have an 8 yr old tv and a 3 yr old Sony surround system. They work perfectly fine for my PS2 and Wii. If I try and throw the PS3 on there, it looks like crap.

 

[Calibre]

I'm missing your point in this instance Mastermind. I was talking specifically about the UK release of the product in repsonse to svykal.

If someone bought a UK PS3 off of ebay after the UK launch day then they must be insane as they could walk into any store and purchase one for the rrp of 425 pounds. Therefore, I doubt many people were making any profit at all on ebay after the day of launch. The PS3 did not sell out in Europe because Sony shipped over 1,000,000 units for day one, that's a pretty hefty figure, by far the biggest in a consoles history.

I also miss your point about the display of the PS3. The only reason I mentioned it in my post was because Skyval suggested the PS3 is inferior to the Xbox 360 because the PS3 can't display 3 dimensional bricks, something which is obviosuly untrue. I have a standard def TV as well of a similar age and while it's dissapointing to see it running in full glory in TV shops, it stills looks pretty damn good on mine. I wasn't suggesting you should always run it in HD, it was all pretty much in repsonse to the previous post.

 

[Buster]

There arent enough games worthy of purchase for the xbox 360 either; and counting its been over a year, thats a pretty good reason to not get IT either, hehe. And most of the decent games on it, are also out or if not yet, are coming out for the PS3 (funny how the sony and microsoft are stealing each others exclusives or big titles, I think it is, at least).

Like I said, there aren't enough games worthy of a purchase for the PS3, IMO. I happen to have an opinion that there are quite a bit of games on the 360 worthy of a purchase (Gears of War, Lost Planet: Extreme Condition, Dead Rising, Crackdown, Viva Pinata, and a few others). For the PS3, there's Resistance. Again, that's just my opinion.

And yes, Lost Planet is also for the PC, but, unfortunately, I don't have $3,500 do spend on a new Alienware to play it.

 

[Andy6000]

And yes, Lost Planet is also for the PC, but, unfortunately, I don't have $3,500 do spend on a new Alienware to play it.

You could probably upgrade whatever PC you've got right now to play it just fine for about $350.

I work in a retail store in northwest USA. The Wii is still sold out. I haven't seen us have it except for one day, and that was when we were holding some back for a little Ad thing over the weekend. The Xbox Pro system is still sold out about 50% of the time, but we have it pretty reliably in stock, and we always have the $300 360. The PS3 was sold out for two weeks, and then people just kind of stopped buying it. I haven't seen us lacking four PS3's in the case and a couple in the back for a long, long time. But then again, it could just be because the HQ for Nintendo America and Microsoft are around here so their hypnotism works better.

I do like the XMB of the PS3 though, because it's almost the same as the PSP one, and I think that's adorable.

 

[MasterMind]

I'm missing your point in this instance Mastermind. I was talking specifically about the UK release of the product in repsonse to svykal.

In that case, completely ignore my post.

 

[Zankoku no Yami]

You could probably upgrade whatever PC you've got right now to play it just fine for about $350.

I work in a retail store in northwest USA. The Wii is still sold out. I haven't seen us have it except for one day, and that was when we were holding some back for a little Ad thing over the weekend. The Xbox Pro system is still sold out about 50% of the time, but we have it pretty reliably in stock, and we always have the $300 360. The PS3 was sold out for two weeks, and then people just kind of stopped buying it. I haven't seen us lacking four PS3's in the case and a couple in the back for a long, long time. But then again, it could just be because the HQ for Nintendo America and Microsoft are around here so their hypnotism works better.

I do like the XMB of the PS3 though, because it's almost the same as the PSP one, and I think that's adorable.

I always forget you live in Washington too (like me!). I found it funny, during Christmas, my sister was looking EVERYWHERE nearly all month for a Wii. What did she manage to find a week before Christmas? A store that had 3 PS3's just sitting there. I was thinking "and people were so desperate to get these, they spent $2000+ on ebay?" and i find it even more funny that the Wii was harder to find!

Ah, that dang price tag will screw you over every time!

Oh, and I wouldn't trust the 360 with my life. My dad baught one not long ago, just to check it out, and he barely tapped the thing and it destroyed the disc in it. My dad now refuses to touch a 360 (since he destroyed 2 discs in one day with that thing. And it was a newer one too!). Hell, I am afraid to walk down the hall now, because my sister's b/f is leaving his 360 here, since we have cable internet and he doesnt, and its sitting right there, ready for me to accidently tap when i walk by...

At least Sony cares about us freaks who can't stand a single scratch on their discs! >.>

 

[Dopples]

I know for a fact that the 360 is not THAT temperamental. Either your dad got a faulty one, or he didn't just "tap" it.

 

[Buster]

You could probably upgrade whatever PC you've got right now to play it just fine for about $350.

Heck, I don't even have $350, but even if I did, I'd still probably buy a 360 anyways, lol. That, and I'm not a huge fan of PC games (controllers are just more comfortable for me, especially the 360 controller)