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How do you think the world would be like if Adolf Hitler succeded?

If anything, the only way he could have had kids is if he was a hermaphradite (that's the term, right?) and if it was possible for a hermaphradite to become pregnant.

But on topic...

I don't think he'd ever have stopped. Mr Hilter favoured people with radical ideas. So... say he wiped out the entire Jewish population. Himler comes up to him, weary, as if he doesn't come up with a new idea he'd be replaced/killed. "Hmm, how about... if we kill all of the people in Liverpool!" Bang, entire Liverpudlian population gone. Week later, another meeting. Gaybells is there, has to think of an idea... "All caucasian people are secretly Jews in disguise." (Yes, I see the illogicalness here, but w/ever). Bang, all caucasian people are wiped out. Gaybels, Himler, and Mr Hilter are fine as they are Aryan. And so on, until all that is left is a small sausage factory outside of Berlin, and a racial stereotype hatred group.
 
Wyatt":1n04h5tz said:
If anything, the only way he could have had kids is if he was a hermaphradite (that's the term, right?) and if it was possible for a hermaphradite to become pregnant.

But on topic...

I don't think he'd ever have stopped. Mr Hilter favoured people with radical ideas. So... say he wiped out the entire Jewish population. Himler comes up to him, weary, as if he doesn't come up with a new idea he'd be replaced/killed. "Hmm, how about... if we kill all of the people in Liverpool!" Bang, entire Liverpudlian population gone. Week later, another meeting. Gaybells is there, has to think of an idea... "All caucasian people are secretly Jews in disguise." (Yes, I see the illogicalness here, but w/ever). Bang, all caucasian people are wiped out. Gaybels, Himler, and Mr Hilter are fine as they are Aryan. And so on, until all that is left is a small sausage factory outside of Berlin, and a racial stereotype hatred group.

Lol I don't know if you were making fun of the names, but that was funny xD
 
syphonmax":dbmft60n said:
Well first I'm not really sure if this is the right place but what the hell it will be moved if it isn't.

For those of you who don't know who the guy is go to this site:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

but then I learned about Adolf Hitler and his plans.

Are you honestly suggesting that you didn't know about WW2 and the holocaust prior to your 10th year of mandatory education?
 

opaj

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Joined the forum to ask a scripting question, ended up finding the answer without having to post, so I might as well talk about Hitler.
Wyatt":vldgcjjc said:
If anything, the only way he could have had kids is if he was a hermaphradite (that's the term, right?) and if it was possible for a hermaphradite to become pregnant.
Huh?  Are you suggesting that the leader of a country driven to the brink of fanaticism couldn't get laid?    And didn't he have a girlfriend, anyway, Eva something-or-other?

Wyatt":vldgcjjc said:
I don't think he'd ever have stopped. Mr Hilter favoured people with radical ideas. So... say he wiped out the entire Jewish population. Himler comes up to him, weary, as if he doesn't come up with a new idea he'd be replaced/killed. "Hmm, how about... if we kill all of the people in Liverpool!" Bang, entire Liverpudlian population gone. Week later, another meeting. Gaybells is there, has to think of an idea... "All caucasian people are secretly Jews in disguise." (Yes, I see the illogicalness here, but w/ever). Bang, all caucasian people are wiped out. Gaybels, Himler, and Mr Hilter are fine as they are Aryan. And so on, until all that is left is a small sausage factory outside of Berlin, and a racial stereotype hatred group.
Yeah, this sounds about right, though maybe the lunacy of the situation is a tad exaggerated.  I think Hermann Goering put it best, when on trial for war crimes:
Naturally the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.  Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.  This is easy.  All you have to do is to tell them that they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.  It works the same in every country.
As long as Hitler could come up with the next Great Enemy, he could keep control over his people... probably.  I can think of other regimes where this hasn't held up quite as well, but then again, Hitler was one hell of an orator.


To those of you who claim Hitler was a good leader: shouldn't you stop and think about what, exactly, defines a good leader?  If all it takes is artificially pumping up the economy and unifying the nation (while pounding down the parts of the nation that refuse to unify) is all it takes to be a "good" leader, okay, sure, that's Hitler.  Personally, I would never call a man who tricks his people into giving up their freedoms, attempts genocide to simply get his poll numbers up, or starts unwinnable wars with the rest of the world a good leader.

As for the OP... Hm.  I think that Hitler finishing the Holocaust and taking over the world are two pretty disparate goals.  He was already pretty, let's say, unpopular when he started WWII, but if he had killed of the Jewish people there wouldn't be many nations that would consider a diplomatic resolution with Germany--who's to say their people wouldn't be next?

If he took over the world, um... no, there wouldn't be peace!  Munich might be alright, because he'd likely have a massive garrison there to keep everything secure.  But even if he somehow took control of the world, he'd have constant uprising, and if he could raise an army big enough to police the entire planet, they'd have their hands full.

Like I said, starting unwinnable wars takes you off my "good leader" list.
 
Actually I think you're wrong. WW2 was winnable it's just that when they started invading Russia winter struck too early which took a huge blow onto their plans. If they managed to take over Russia then they would have gotten rid of one of the most dangerous enemys they had. So they could have taken over Europe and then once that's done they could take a break. Then they could just take over America and once they are gone they can finish off the rest of the world.

Thank god for seasons striking early :tongue:
 
holloway":1p7e1s2f said:
Nijiame":1p7e1s2f said:
Like Nixon, Hitler did great things for his nation, but did some fucked up shit. No really, don't EVER trust a man named after an Italian pasta side-dish as your leader.
Did you just fucking compare Nixon to Hitler? Talk about fucked up perception.

And I just realised- you're doing your GCSEs and have only JUST heard of Hitler?  What the heck is wrong with you?
I didn't compare them. I said that they are alike as in lots of people didn't like them but they still did good things. Nixon gets blamed for Vietnam though he just happened to be elected when it got really bad so people blamed him for something he had no control over.
Me and Hitler have the same birthday. O.O
 

Jason

Awesome Bro

Can anyone else imagine Hitler in court ?:

Lawyer: Hitler, did you kill those 20 million (Not sure) Jews ?
Hitler: Nein !
Judge: You only killed nine !? Thats okay then, off you go...
 
opaj":31apwb25 said:
Joined the forum to ask a scripting question, ended up finding the answer without having to post, so I might as well talk about Hitler.
Wyatt":31apwb25 said:
If anything, the only way he could have had kids is if he was a hermaphradite (that's the term, right?) and if it was possible for a hermaphradite to become pregnant.
Huh?  Are you suggesting that the leader of a country driven to the brink of fanaticism couldn't get laid?    And didn't he have a girlfriend, anyway, Eva something-or-other?

I was implying he was Asexual.
 

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You all should go away, read up on history (I suggest Rise and Fall of the Third Reich for this subject, great look at Nazi Germany in WWII) and come back with your facts straight, at least a decent portion of them so there can be a basic foundation for debate if a serious debate is necessary. 

This would be more interesting if we were coming up with wild global fascism scenarios based entirely on fantasy than debating the particulars of Hitler's reproductive capabilities and whether he was a "good leader" :/
 
You all should go away, read up on history (I suggest Rise and Fall of the Third Reich for this subject, great look at Nazi Germany in WWII) and come back with your facts straight, at least a decent portion of them so there can be a basic foundation for debate if a serious debate is necessary.
You mean the GCSE Modern History textbook? Dear lord that'll bastardise your knowledge as badly as syphonmax.
 
I dunno who you were referring to Nphyx, but... I personally am taking A-level history, so have "read up on history" (though to be picky, History can't be read up on as everything written down is biased, the only people who know are those who were there. Take Bede, for instance, that annoying monk dude.)
 

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High-School (or whatever they call it where you come from) history is about as useful as listening to grandpa's folk tales as far as getting any kind of realistic perspective on history.  The interest of the modern school system as far as history is concerned is to present history in a way that properly indoctrinates you into the beliefs of your country and social system. 

Anyway, Wyatt, I can only assume your bastardization of Himmler and Goebbel's names was intentional but your grasp of the structure of Nazi politics is somewhat lacking - not that you're at fault for that, really, not many people need to know much about Nazi history in their day to day lives.

The reason I suggest the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is because it was written by a person who was actually there, stationed as a journalist in Germany during the rise of the National Socialist party and familiar with many contemporaries of major Nazi leaders, and also one of the few people who had full access to all the Nazi documents that were captured by the Allies immediately after the war.  I haven't anywhere near finished it yet, but it's fascinating in any case and probably one of the best reads on the Nazis written at a level that would be interesting and understandable to a common person; it reads like a great piece of investigative journalism, rather than the dry, sanitized accounts you'd get in a proper academic history.
 
Oh the Shirer version. Holy hell, I didn't think anyone in this thread would actually read a formal account of the period.

But, in all fairness, do take it with a cup of salt; Shirer was a very vocal anti-Nazi and had been victimised. Not to mention he wrote a good chunk of this immediately after the war so, as an American, its questionable how fair he would be.
 

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