Golden Compass?
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They seem to call the Alethiometer the "compass" in the trailers. I think this is bull, personally, but i'm assuming that it's not called that in the US book too.
I only got Northern Lights recently(within a couple of years) and it was called northern lights. Has it been changed in uk as well now(other than promotional film versions)?
I only got Northern Lights recently(within a couple of years) and it was called northern lights. Has it been changed in uk as well now(other than promotional film versions)?
I picked up on that too and almost said something, but I figured that it was just to simplify the trailers. Remember that they ultimately want to sell a product, and by simplifying the story and putting emphasis on special effects and stuff they cater to abroader audience.
If the movie itself doesn't call it an Alethiometer I'll be pissed. So far I'm doing my best to just hope that the advertising is horrible and the movie will be good.
Whoma thinks USAmericans is unedumacated? I reset that! I may be a suthernor, butt I gose to scool ever day! But I congress.
I am still looking forward to the movie, but if it is a total failure, I'm going to give up on Book-to-movie adaptations. I may just boycott the stuff because of the general suckage that generates from them.
Above all I hope that the themes of the trilogy as a whole are kept in tact; oh, and who wants to see the Elephant-Bike-People (names are lost on me, atm)?
I am still looking forward to the movie, but if it is a total failure, I'm going to give up on Book-to-movie adaptations. I may just boycott the stuff because of the general suckage that generates from them.
Above all I hope that the themes of the trilogy as a whole are kept in tact; oh, and who wants to see the Elephant-Bike-People (names are lost on me, atm)?
'Solid Bro'":rofn8na9 said:
Ah, yes. Mulefa. Wish I could ride one o' them.
I haven't read the 3rd book since last year, but if I remember correctly, he died from the crash, when they (God and some angels carrying him in a carriage of sorts) were attacked by the Cliff-Ghasts. I could be wrong, though.
Involving God is a really bold thing to do indeed, and killing him off is all the more bold, but I believe that is one of the things that made the books so epic.
That reminds me, I really can't wait to see that final battle. With creatures from several different worlds, so unbelievably different and unthinkable that they couldn't be described, as well as the Knife and the pansorjorn (sp?) and the Adament Tower, and God's floating Castle place, and that Angel God has given command to, and the Chevaliers Tialis and (name forgotten), and Witches, and everything, it's gonna be uber epic...oh, I'm just so excited!
But it should be made clear that the character of God/the Authority is an impostor God, not really God himself. He was just the first angel to be born from Dust, then convinced everyone that he was the Creator. So unless I completely misunderstood that whole plotline, killing him off is actually -preserving- the idea of a true God, don't you think? Christians really have nothing to worry about if they just see it that way.
The way I understood it, Pullman has nothing against religion or faith, it's the religious institution that he has a problem with. You can be extremely religious without ever being a part of a church, but a lot of people seem to ignore that.
Either way, it's a good story, and you don't have to have any certain belief to enjoy it IMO, you just have to be a little open minded is all.
I for one am really excited for this. It's such an amazing series, and I've always wanted them to do a movie ever since I first read the books about four years ago. Took them long enough!
I'm curious to see how their plan to move part of the ending to the second movie will play out. It makes me a bit worried, but I'll save my judgment until next weekend. I've read some good stuff about the dialogue, so if that turns out really well, I'm a happy camper.
The way I understood it, Pullman has nothing against religion or faith, it's the religious institution that he has a problem with. You can be extremely religious without ever being a part of a church, but a lot of people seem to ignore that.
Either way, it's a good story, and you don't have to have any certain belief to enjoy it IMO, you just have to be a little open minded is all.
I for one am really excited for this. It's such an amazing series, and I've always wanted them to do a movie ever since I first read the books about four years ago. Took them long enough!
I'm curious to see how their plan to move part of the ending to the second movie will play out. It makes me a bit worried, but I'll save my judgment until next weekend. I've read some good stuff about the dialogue, so if that turns out really well, I'm a happy camper.
Yeah, but because the original God died a long time beforehand, which would really piss off the Christians possibly more than the idea of killing Him as a part of the story.
...I think. Don't quote me on any of this stuff because I read the books a LONG time ago. I'm definitely going to reread them before the movie comes out.
It's just one of those things, Christian high-up people (whatever you'd call them) seem to hate any book that has anything to do with magic or gods, or anything like that. I haven't read the books, but they are works of fiction, people need to remember that. Magic in the Harry Potter sense of it doesn't really exist so JK Rowling can't possibly be "promoting witchcraft" with her books. Same thing goes for Philip Pullman.
By the way, it's called Golden Compass because he tried to release it in America, and they declined as they didn't like the story. He tried under a different name, the Golden Compass, and they accepted - but by that time is had already been released in Europe as the Northern Lights. So since it's an American film, it's called the Golden Compass - it'd be too much to change every piece of media relating to the film to show the correct European title of the book.
Since Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is just a book with the title appearing on a few pages, it's easy to change Philosopher to Sorceror, unlike changing all the adverts and such relating to a film. (The only books you ever see advertised are those James Patterson ones.)
By the way, it's called Golden Compass because he tried to release it in America, and they declined as they didn't like the story. He tried under a different name, the Golden Compass, and they accepted - but by that time is had already been released in Europe as the Northern Lights. So since it's an American film, it's called the Golden Compass - it'd be too much to change every piece of media relating to the film to show the correct European title of the book.
Since Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is just a book with the title appearing on a few pages, it's easy to change Philosopher to Sorceror, unlike changing all the adverts and such relating to a film. (The only books you ever see advertised are those James Patterson ones.)
Ah, same here...I haven't read them in a long time either, and I've had to read so much stuff for school since then, that I probably am just completely forgetting that. I've actually been rereading the first book on and off lately, and I'm surprised at how many details I didn't remember outside of the main plot. =PSolid Bro;327055 said:
But yeah, I guess no matter how much you try to justify the whole death of God thing, someone somewhere will find a way to be offended by it!
I guess what matters is that the fanbase is strong, and hopefully this will draw even more people into becoming Pullman fans, because seriously he's an amazing storyteller. (I'm also hoping that this movie does well enough to earn the greenlight for the sequel, because I would love to see Cittagazze and the start of Will's story on screen. ^^)
When I tried telling my highly Christian friend that God in Pullman's trilogy was just the first Angel, and that it never says that the 'Real God' existed at all, he freaked out and declared the book Satanic in the purist form. Hmmmm....
My cool friends are thinking about checking it out, though.
My cool friends are thinking about checking it out, though.