And why should their failing hold back future generations?
Because you can't simply wave a magic pixie wand and everything will work out exactly as you want it. You need to have a better plan aside from "We'll just tell kids and hope for the best."
Who will teach these kids? You can't do it yourself. You can't start with the kids because it's mostly a social problem, you have to start with adults and the parents of the kids. What's your plan there?
The point was to remove all social stigma so that people can have healthy and happy sex lives?
So that if a 5 year old kid plays an innocent game of "you show me yours i'll show you mind" that goes a bit too far he won't feel extremely guilty about it in his adult years but actually look back on it as a fond first sexual experience like he should?
Ok,
that makes sense, but...
So that if a teenage girl decides to have sex with her boyfriend in high school, she doesn't feel massive social stigma about doing it before marriage or a problem with pregnancy or anything other than simply enjoying the experience?
Tells me you haven't read my previous posts where I said,
The problem is as kids get older they can actually get pregnant, which is why it's important to teach them safety and what's going on. Letting kids know about sex early might help because they'd be familiar with it.
I actually agree with you. And I think the teenage girl should learn about sex ed so she can protect herself from STDs.
So that a person who may be gay or transgendered or anything else really, they can quickly and easily come to terms with that and be accepted for it long before it even becomes an issue?
I have my own problems with transgendered people, but we're not going to go into it in this thread.
How did you miss this? Removal of the sex's social stigmas will do WONDERS for our society and only move to make us happier, as we can finally publically and openly accept a portion of ourselves instead of hiding it?
I didn't miss it, I just doubt if it's possible to remove social stigma so easily, and I feel there'd be plenty of mental repercussion caused by it. I'm not talking about "let's ban little Jimmy from learning about sex because then he'll do it with some six year old at Disney World and won't be able to get an erection without listening to 'It's a Small World After All." I don't give a fuck about whatever random deviancy might come up, sex is a natural drive like eating, and I have a eating deviancy where I have to drink copious amounts of green tea and coffee every two hours. My main concern, I suppose, is that sex will become more of a recreational activity than anything, and would lead to overpopulation, increased STDs and such. But that's getting ahead of things.
My point is that early sex education can help children discover and enjoy whatever weird sexual fenishes they want, and that this early childhood emjoyment will teach them not to be ashamed of their true selves when they grow into teens and adults. You seem to have missed that.
I didn't miss that, though you seem to skip by the fact that most people don't give a fuck about whatever "fetish" you happen to have so long as they're cool with it. It's more the asphyxiation I'm worried about.
No, I would take kids, with an inkling of understanding what sex is, then allow them to experiment with themselves and with other willing children as much as they'd like so they can understand and discover their own individual drives, knowledge, and reasons. I'd never tell them it's an adult thing that they're forbidden from and then teach them to do it, I'd actively encourage them to explore themselves.
Ok, so you've got your whole "Atlas Shrugged" sexual exploration thing going on. Good. What about the rest of societies kids? What about the rest of society? How would you determine which kids had an inkling of understanding? And I thought you said
all kids had an inkling of what's going on?
'Sexual deviancy' is just another word for "hey that guy likes sex a different way than what our culture has told us we all should, let's shut him at best and kill him at worse!" I would promote your 'sexual deviancy' in every possible form, as long as the person's particular fetish doesn't involve forcing others to do things they don't want to do (rape, unwanted murder, etc.)
You seem to be totally missing my point, and furthermore everything you see as a bad outcome due to your cultural and possibly religious (however latent) upbringing and mode of thought, I see as a good outcome simply based on pleasing the greatest number of people.
You're making a logical fallacy here. Sexual deviancy is not another word for "let's kill the fucker", so don't plant loaded evidence at the scene of the crime. It's deviancy versus culture, but in our context it's versus ethics (or should be.) I.E. Billy beats Sally against her will.
I agree with your post, except your
second logical fallacy based on an incorrect (though close) assumption about myself. My point of view doesn't come from my upbringing, but via practicality. All of my arguments are against what I feel is impractical, and perhaps a little devil's advocacy to try and get people to do more than take shots at each other over the internet, but I digress.
