Your Guilty Pleasure

[rexxzecutioner]

I do think the definition is flawed, yes. The general public does not all adhere to ONE singular point of view on what is good or not. So I don't think it is really possible to stray so far out of general perceieved 'safe zones' concerning opinions to be considered guilty of anything.

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

*sigh*
Listen to me. The word is not a truth. It's not a fact. The terminology is simple. It's truest form isn't something you feel guilty about. It's something you shouldn't do based on the generalization of others, but do regardless.

Since no one lives by it, how can it be flawed? I honestly don't get it. I really don't see how the terminology of something you do inspite of what others think you should do - is flawed, with the argument of getting out of the boxes people put you in.

 

[rexxzecutioner]

*sigh* Listen to me. You and I aren't arguing about the same thing, it seems. I am not talking about the word, but the application of it. There is hardly a strict general sentiment of what people should and shouldn't like, anymore. So I think the term rarely applies in many of the posted circumstances. What someone would normally list as a guilty please, example:

"I listen to Britney Spears." or "I like to watch S&M pornography". It really depends on the total context of the person who is stating these things firstly, and then next it begs the question of why they would be considered guilty pleasures in the first place. If it's not because the person feels guilty for liking them, then what? Oh, they are guilty of liking such things? Then isn't EVERYTHING a guilty pleasure? Or do we only narrow it down to cewrtain things(which is completely subjective to begin with)?

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

That's a symposium subject?

And yes, there is still a huge sentiment on what people should and shouldn't be like. Unless you live in the one social clique where not one single person ever laughed or made jokes on your behalf for a pass time or enjoyment of yours. That and the whole point of guilty pleasures is subjective. Your subjective views on the generalizations of others, as you subjectively see them.

You are generalizing how people would generalize you - or - you are doing something that you normally wouldn't do. There is no context outside of that. I honestly don't see your argument, at all.

That first context, that's the universal 'you' doing the generalization of others - not the other way around. And that's the most common terminology in modern usage. If we talk about that - nothing else comes in, and reversed for other definitions true.

It's a word with several definitions, none of them overly serious - no one abides by them, we're not talking socialism, we're talking extremist wordplay.

 

[rexxzecutioner]

I actually think we are confusing the debate further. I am not generalizing or pidgeonholing anyone at all. I am simply talking about the usage of the term guilty here and what it implies, and who is the judge. Since it is a label that needs quite a subjective requirement to even work, I do not believe the usage is apt in most circumstances.

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

"we are confusing the debate further"
Symposium. Definitely.

The term guilty means dozens of things. Guilty Poetry is wrong then. The little scrawls written about freedom from one owns body because of the mutilation ocured, is wrong because of the term "guilty" and what it implies. I'm not arguing, but seriously no implication of a word can out weigh the definition.
Be it literary traditional, or modern cultural usage.

I couldn't really call it a label either. I don't think any one person can be labeled a guilty pleasure - except for one of my friends who I absolutely hate, but constantly call up to hang out... but then again, they aren't the GP, the action of going out and doing crap is the GP.

Usage for words is something that is rarely apt. This is the English language, a bastardized language that is getting more bastardized as we speak, and is (according to one source) the most evolving language in the world. Terminologies change near daily on a personal - not dictionary - level.

 

[rexxzecutioner]

I understand the point of view and the meaning that the term tries to convey. I am more or less arguing against the idea that one person could label another person's pleasure as a 'guilty pleasure'. Surely that is something that they must do themselves on a personal level. That being said, I am not quite sure if I have any of these, I haven't reflected on the matter long enough to consider. All of the things I enjoy, I do for quite good reasons and would not feel persuaded to change my opinions on them for any reason that I could fathom.

Well, maybe there is one... but I won't go there

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

Damn it, I was having fun debating for no reason. Bah, your no fun.

Guilty Pleasure Numbah Something:
Pointless debates in face to face form or online, where I do see someone's point but debate against it anyway - not in the purpose of argument but merely for the debate itself.

Why is this a guilty pleasure?
It is because in this case I actually don't want to, but find myself doing so anyway.

 

[lunarea]

Think of the term "guilty pleasure" as your own personal little secret. It's not something you're so profoundly ashamed of that you would die if others knew about it. It's also not something that you feel so badly about that you're thinking about seeking professional help.

It's just something that you like or enjoy doing, but you don't want everyone to know about it.

It's a small and innocent thing that's pleasing in some way, but that leaves you feeling like you're indulging. Kind of like eating a tiny little piece of chocolate when you're on a diet. It's not going to ruin your life, but it is just the slightest bit naughty.

Now, back to the topic ... I watch 'America's Next Top Model' *hides*. I'm always the one to make fun of those girly types who are into the show, and I absolutely hate reality TV. But ... I just can't help but watch it! I rationalize it by saying that I like to see pretty photographs O_o

 

[rexxzecutioner]

And that is a perfectly acceptable usage of the term, sixty. But I think a lot of people apply it to things incorrectly.

"omg i listen to gay europop but I like it so much but it's a guilty pleasure!!1"

Wrong. If you genuinely like it, but feel ashamed to listen to it, that's you being a poseur. Listen to what you like and don't feel bad for it.

 

[Venetia]

Having high self esteem doesn't mean you have to take pride in everything you do. The fact of the matter is, humans are a social animal and we all want to be accepted. That means guilt and embarrassment is a necessary part of getting along.

Spoiler: Might as well admit it. Anyway atleast I don't have to look you people in the face ;')

I feel embarrassed for how attracted I am to chicks. I mean, I really am. Sometimes I think I'm more attracted to them than dudes. But I'm married and it's not really "PC" for me to come out and agree with all my dude coworkers that Keeley Hazel is a smoking hottie when they're on their break.

I mean, it should be acceptable that I sorta swing that way, too. But although I'm sure the guys wouldn't mind my saying it, it'd make my workplace uncomfortable. Coming out and admitting to my attraction would be embarrassing for me. But I love looking at chicks. So that's kind of a guilty pleasure :').

I think it's anything people can judge you on, but you yourself don't want people to judge about you or use against you in some way, or make you feel self conscious.

 

[rexxzecutioner]

While I am not sexually attracted to males, I definitely find a well sculpted physique of a man, and I can appreciate the handsome qualities. I find nothing wrong with this and I have stated my opinion on it many times.

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

I'm sorry but Tim Curry as Dr. Frank-N-Furter is sex.
sex. sexed. sexy. i don't care, i'll admit it.

 

[Giam]

I still enjoy taking out my old Pokemon cards and looking threw them.

I let my girlfriend use my jacket just because she makes it smell good.

 

[Untra]

Mine? I have a bad habit of biting my finger to stop myself from laughing whenever someone else is nearby. That, and I play all my music through a single pair of headphones I carry with me at ALL TIMES. Its a great pair of headphones, because it either lets me block out all noise, or allow just enough so I can hear someone if they're talking to me. Funny thing is; I don't have an MP3 player, so I'm often just waiting to sit down at a computer, open up an internet radio (I use Pandora), and begin working.

 

[the7k]

My guilty pleasure... heh, probably that I enjoy watching shoujo anime and reading shoujo manga not because (well, not JUST because) it's full of chicks, but because I actually enjoy the story and character interactions. And no, I'm not talking fanservicy ones like Love Hina, I'm actually talking things like Sailor Moon and Strawberry Panic. Mine you, I'm a bearded 22 year old who people often say is "rugged" and "like a lumberjack."

 

[Dreamland]

actually I don't think I have any G.P.s

Edit: Actually I thought of one, I always wish someone would just be really weird and do something totally wrong and say some thing weird to me so that I can tell them off.

I don't know why, but I am really weird too, I am SO not a teachers pet.
I also like "Gara" from "Naruto" the anima TV show (he is my favourite character evin though he is evil and kills a whole bunch of people)

 

[The Wizard]

I'm 25 years old and I love SpongeBob!!!  I can't get enough, I have EVERY episode and have seen them all at least 15 times.

 

[CIPWM74]

I PLAY RUNESCAPE! :'( :'(!!!
I also like to look at the children's programmes program information. It makes me feel warm that children aren't smart.
I am a serial killer.
I think dressing in women's clothing wouldn't be that bad.
I'm Australian and I don't like cricket or vegemite...

What's the midpoint between Florida, New York, and Australia? Probably somewhere in Africa. Hmm. Maybe let's do Spain instead? I know a great little town there ... (lol)

Luskaka, Zambia

 

[WeAreSuperhero]

Public exhibition =3 its raaather fun.