coyotecraft":2htuvy9z said:
I don't remember if I've dug around in Menagerie before. But in one of your other games, inside Esperia's pocket dimension I believe is somekind of tea garden party with Fyori.
Ah ya, that's intelligence. The DATE scenes I planned but never really implemented.
coyotecraft":2htuvy9z said:
This is something of a "backroom" I considered putting in Censor's Bar or "The High Noon Hotel". The Coyote character makes a lot of suggestive hints about what's back in order to keep Sven/the player away. Like 2 Girls 1 cup. Tea Bagging. But in reality it's really innocent. A running gag that contrary to all the evidence - it's not a brothel.
Meanwhile in Fantasia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQSbuBXEpL0
coyotecraft":2htuvy9z said:
At some point in my story development, Sven was unlocking doors in Esperia's unconscious to either answer why he's there, or to take advantage of the situation and gather intelligence. But the answer had more to do with Naxon. I don't know if I could draw a diagram or not because it's like Inception + Skynet. And there's a timelime. Yes, time lime. You'd think it would be a lemon, as fanfiction go, but that's part of the running gag. And this is how you know it's outside of biztopia canon because otherwise the time curve would probably be bananas. Probably? Probably. But I mean it's all pulp.
I do time travle the same way chrono trigger does it, where everything that does happen will happen, but loopholes can be used to make the outcome differ. Most of my instances of time travel are done with stable time loops, there's a fw good examples of these.
1. Remember when you fight Fatty, Fyori, Gerald and Spooky in Intel? Well that same battle takes place in menagerie except with the actors and their skills n stuff inversed, both experience it in the same way, and so the fabric of time isn't questioned because it stable time loops are accounted for.
2 Another much grandiose example takes place shortly after the events of Hellcat, which takes place not long after PFC. Corporation XVI is like 'oh shet we need more time' but Anathema (an early follower who can adjust her own time (but not travek through time, kinda like sakuya izakoi from 2hu) notions that they would have plaenty of time if they went all back 500 years, and from there could gather more followers and preach it much eariler. So they do this, which is why you as fyori can fight people like esperia and naxon in menagerie, even though Naxon would have only recently become a lich, and Esperia wouldn't have been close to born yet- they land in at 1512, and for the next 100 or so year, work on stabilizing the fourth walls energies, which is why whenever a Corporation member showed up, static would follow, becuase the fourth wall is very dangerous, and they were attuning it to a fragile dimension while trying their best not to alert the gods.
After the events of menagerie, several (eventually all) of the menagerie members join the shadowed corpoation, and fyori gets up to a bunch of mischief with both Mad E Lin and Esperia, and esperia after a while offers her a place in the corporation, and yeah so they got a bunch of members this way completely under the goddess' noses- once each character who had travled back was born, they'd stay in the equation unsolved until their canon self live their life, died, and got an offer from the corporation and travelled back, after this point, they'd re-enter the fold, which then sets up the events for Intelligence proper. Again, stable time loop, as nothing much changed in the history. All that did happen was several well know heroes or villains 'disappeared', Safael himself notes that Lyza vanished without a trace, in reality, she become invisible, alike most of corporation xiv, so the demigods could no longer trace her because the history origin had written had change, and origin cannot actually see what he has not made be. There's a reason both twins state Niirgo was a failure, they made a couple huge mistakes in his programming.
Granted, this is not a common way of using time travel, as this actually effected events.
3. There's plenty of examples of stable time loops in Menagerie too, like spooky and past spooky talking to each other. Both characters would do the same actions, just at different times to speed up production of their 'build'.
I basically mastered an understanding of time loops, time travel and paradox-less timelines. In my universe travelling through time is something the cosmos has accounted for so everything is already sort of going to happen how it will in the end.
Like if you try to go back through time to say, wipe out the dinosaurs because those fucking lizards are assholes, and then just hurl a giant meteor from space, then you're keeping in line with the history, and achieved the conclusion you sought, even the fabric of reality of itself didn't want those fuucks around- though to be more real, Yi was the sender of the meteor, because she found then rude and uncouth and because they dominated earth no species would get a chance to really outwit them well. But even with this the same result would be achieved.
For people who do try to recklessly create paradox's to see what will happen, the universe or yi herself will intervene and erase them outright. Contradictions to the grand scheme of the simulation are not something that is taken lightly. There's also the thing that mortals are not meant to possess a way to time-travel.
Another good example is, say you went back to kill hitler, as a classic go to. You'd likely end up being beaten to it by who actually assassinated him. Hitler was a well defended man and was in history hard to find.
Yi has been behind a lot of events in history that hve been retold to omit her involvement as she desired, the versions of history that omit not her involvement is called the esoteric history, and it's a large partion of what the books Tristy, lazarus and Kyoshi has called 'Fragmentary Esoteric Diagnostics covers, as well as how to trace fragments of an MCP after its been shattered and diagnosing extents of both. Beyond very advanced technological analogies. Given that the book is wirtten in MindFields, M.F. lazarus' personal font, it's a hefty read and a near intelligible one except to galaxions like him, Tristy has just decoded and learned it by now.
coyotecraft":2htuvy9z said:
Now that makes two of us.
