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oh man olimars final smash is really cool. WILD BEASTS EVERYWHEREE!
i can imagine how hectic those final smash attacks are gonna be @__@

btw you forgot to mention shieks ungodly uerial up+A (i think that was the ungodly one, i havent used her in so long)
 
shieks special attacks all suck. i'll charge up some throwing darts when my opponent is sailing off the level, but that's about as far as it goes.
 
Not really; the needles are godly, and her recovery is also one of the best. The only "sucky" stuff she has are the chain and down+B. The latter one, especially, you should avoid at all costs. =)

About Olimar's final smash, I don't think they will stop the action just to let everyone take damage. I'd guess Olimar runs (flies?) away, the monsters run around on screen trampling everyone, but the action will probably go on. Hence the "other people can steal your kill" part.

Oh and Galaxia Darkness now has competition for coolest final smash name. Though I wish it was "End of the Day" instead.
 
Her recovery one of the best? Hardly. You're best off changing to Zelda then using her recovery. Now THAT'S godly.

Havendor said:
the monsters run around on screen trampling everyone, but the action will probably go on. Hence the "other people can steal your kill" part.
Makes sense, I didn't think about that. I hope they do that.

I was thinking, it wasn't uncommon to see a number of similar character franchises in melee (take Link, Zelda, Ganondorf for example), and there are rumoured to be above 40 character slots, so... I'll check how many are filled quickly... 25 (or 24 if you don't count Sheik as an extra character)... to fill at least 16 slots, yes, some will be return characters for sure, but where are you going to get say another 10 or 12 characters from? The same franchises. Does this mean we might see characters like Tails/Knuckles, Starwolf, Dixie Kong, etc? What do you guys think? (I don't think Dixie Kong, but I couldn't come up with anymore examples so I just put her in). I wouldn't say there would be many/any more Mario characters; the Mario franchise has it all it needs I reckon.

As for Ridley, I'd say definitely not as a playable character. You can't decrease Ridley to even Bowser's size and get away with that. I reckon we'll see Ridley as a boss in the Subspace Emissary though.
 
I doubt it...they can make Ridley playable...I don't know where you get the idea of his size can't be decreased to even Bowser's. I can see him being playable...we need another playable Metroid character anyway.
 
If you change to Zelda, you'll die. Anyone with half a brain will just jump out and kill you. Vanish has a lot of invinciframes, and it also explodes, which, if you're lucky, will knock out people stupid enough to edgehog you.

As for Ridley - not very informed about the series, but isn't he some sort of gigantic dragon thing? Bowser is about 2-3 times bigger than Mario in the games, I believe. I'd say Ridley is 20 times bigger than Samus? Reducing him to playable level would just be asinine. My money's on Subspace boss.
 
Havendor said:
I'd say Ridley is 20 times bigger than Samus? Reducing him to playable level would just be asinine. My money's on Subspace boss.
Exactly.

There's no way Sheik's recovery will get you back if you're in the magnifying glass. At least Zelda's recovery will probably reach that far, and it somewhat increases your chances of survival, not necessarily guarantees it.
 

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I think chances of a Ridley/Meta Ridley assist trophy are better than a Ridley character. In addition to the size restrictions, there's also the matter of movesets and the like. He breathes fire, he flies, and he can use claws. Of course, they managed to pull most of Dedede's moves out of their ass, so Ridley would probably get...

... I dunno, a gun that shoots cats and Screechbats?

I'm still holding out for Geno, Duster, and Kumatora. Oh, and a Runaway Five/DCMC assist trophy. Chances are bad, but...

C'maaaaaan, guys, give the underdog a chance! :<
 

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Touche. I'd forgotten about them.

Still, seems unlikely. He's so gangly that even if they do shrink him and his effective reach down to Bowser size his limbs will be paper-thin.
 
I still think he's best suited for a boss though. I mean, there's Petey Piranha from Mario, and Rayquaza from Pokemon. Ridley from Metroid fits perfectly. You could go further, K. Rool (if there's another DK level), Dark Matter for Kirby (or the magician for those who've played Kirby on Nes), or Master Hand if they move him to the Emissary. Ridley just doesn't suit the character roster.
 

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kaze950":yzqnehbv said:
He breathes fire, he flies, and he can use claws

So does Charizard.
Charizard was probably really easy to make movesets for, though. Pokemon have tons of moves that come with names and actions bundled up, clean as you please. Those three were pretty obvious choices. I know Fly, Strength, and Flamethrower were the moves of choice for Young Miek.

Jono: I've got a lot of hopes for Boss Ridley, actually. He's just a logical choice.

And Dark Matter?
YES.
I loved the Dreamland/Crystal Shards arc. The moment they stopped using Dark Matter was also the moment Kirby games stopped being good. Not from some rabid fanboyism for black blobs with one eye, but from a plain gameplay standpoint.

Needless to say, I certainly hope it's Dark Matter/O2/Miracle Matter and not someone lame like the Nightmare.
 
Dark Matter would be awesome! Imagine the kind of level you'd be playing if he were the boss. Some freaky innder-mind world of kirby where all his nightmares come alive and crazy delusions of nonsensical worlds appearing and disappearing by the will of Dark Matter itself.

Dark Matter (could be confusing it with Nightmare) was a boss in just about all the Gameboy Kirby games I think.

The point of the Subspace Emissary I think, is that all it's inhabitants are maniacally evil (or just very large and mad).

Anyway, new train of thought: Hal Laboratories are the studio behind this game (right?). It's also the company who makes Kirby (right?). At the end of the Gamecube's life, a new Kirby game (much like the Crystal Shards) was announced, but later cancelled (not sure if it would later come to Wii or not). So my thought is that upon Brawls' release, this new Kirby game might reach development. Kirby 64 was a brilliant game (much long-awaited for Virtual Console hinthint), I hope a new Kirby game does reach the Wii soon.

From what I heard, this game was supposed to be up to 4 player co-op, where other players would be an enemy character that followed Kirby around, which Kirby could use its power by putting it on top of his head. He could stack up to three enemies (or players) on his head to use whenever. Sounds strange,  but I do like the idea of co-op. C'mon Hal...
 

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I think I remember that.

At any rate, Dark Matter wasn't an inner-mind type baddie at all.

It was just badass.

It was so cool, it didn't need motivation. It attacked planets and little else -- and it was awesome.

I just hope that if it's in, Nintendo doesn't try to make Dark Matter an amorphous Smorg-esque boss. Its true roots lie in its total spherical glory.
 
In some other forum (since all of the sudden we're talking about bosses, lol) I thought Giygas would make another perfect boss. :p
A stage where you see nothing but him, and like in the game you cannot tell what attack he is about to use or even when he uses it. I'm still trying to figure out how you would damage him though...lol

EDIT: Stickers that have power up effects...that's just...AWESOME!!! lol
 
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