Sony Screws Europe....

[Dopples]

Lol it's more fun with a modded Xbox?

If it's 'that good a game' as they say, you shouldn't need to mod your Xbox

I never said it was an awsome game. I said it's multiplayer was fun, and when modded, it can get very damn entertaining (I mean, come on, there are pistols that shoot out Grunts that explode. That's just awsome.)

Onto the subject at hand, so far, from what I've seen from all the Blu-Ray reviews, the quality of regular HD was actually BETTER then it. And the current generation can already use HD :O

 

[ryanwh]

Saying "I don't care about Blu-ray" is akin to saying "I don't care about DVD."

Maybe 2 or 3 years before they became reasonably priced and something everyone had. You wont need one now or next year, it's still a long way away from being needed. And there's no garuntee it'll replace DVD, the jump from DVD to VHS was huge but this jump is hardly the same.

 

[arcthemonkey]

Well excuse me for looking into the future :P

 

[Kest]

Never.

We burn people that do that!

 

[Alexx]

Erm, was the DVD-player in PS2 any good? Let me answer that question for you; It sucked monkey balls.

Will the Blu-ray player in PS3 be any better? I doubt it.

You can't really say that PS3 is a "great buy" just because of the blu-ray. It's the FIRST GENERATION blu-ray players people! In a year you'll find the same quality players for 40 bucks in your nearest grocery store.

My advice is to forget about blu-ray for now and wait a year or so and then buy a proper blu-ray player which at least has some form of quality. Perhaps even a blu-ray/HD-DVD combo player. Because the PS3 blu-ray player wont last very long. Are you still using your PS2 for DVDs??

If you don't want it now, you will want it in the future.

Exactly! I deffinitly don't want it now, but I probably want it in the future. That said, it wont be in a PS3 :P

 

[arcthemonkey]

You're making an awful lot of impossible assumptions about the Blu-ray drive in the PS3.

The one in the PS2 wasn't as bad as you make it out to be either, it just wasn't quite as refined as some things you can get now. It certainly beats most of the $40 piece of garbade you can get at WalMart, assuming it still works.

 

[ryanwh]

Sony isnt making the blue rays themselves, that's kind of the problem. But uh yeah, my PS2 DVD player still works, it works decent but a normal DVD player works better. But then, a normal DVD player SHOULD work better, since all it does is play DVDs. Im sure it'll be the same for the blue ray player, otherwise they wouldnt bother selling them as standalones.

 

[Minkoff]

Well excuse me for looking into the future :P

With extreme bias. The format war is not over. Didja know they can make HD-DVDs that are backwards-compatable with DVDs now? The Blu-Ray/PS3 justification logic is kind of circular too. You know, the PS3 will be great and everyone will have one because it has a Blu-Ray player, and Blu-Ray will win the format war because the PS3 is so great and everyone will have one.

 

[Andy6000]

Okay guys we're talking about Sony's gameplan in Europe, not the horrifyingly huge amount of fail that Sony is making with the blu-ray thing. There's a PS3 thread somewhere in the pits of previous pages, find it and post there. Don't worry, I won't warn you for necroposting if you have something that's NOT STUPID to say. (be warned)

 

[arcthemonkey]

Minkoff, Blu-ray will win because it's the superior media, has support of all but one major industry backer, and can ALSO be backwards compatible with DVD. Yes, many Blu-ray disks will be playable in a DVD player. I don't see what this has to do with Bias. Do I own an XBOX? Yes? Do I own a gamecube? Yes. I prefer Playstation, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm biased.

On topic though, in a way Europe is lucky, since they will dodge any manufacturing/hardware problems, and likely have a larger run and certainly have a larger library.

 

[Berserker]

I agree with Arc espicially about the ps3 being a good investment Europe(and us aussies) will be avoiding the defects of the ps3 and we will also have a greater selection of games then too. But a few months delay isn't really a big deal.

Wow a few months delay omg I hate sony now I'll never buy anything from them ever again. /sarcasm

A few month delay does not sway my judgement or my faith in sony. As there are more important things I can do in the mean time.

 

[Alexx]

On topic though, in a way Europe is lucky, since they will dodge any manufacturing/hardware problems, and likely have a larger run and certainly have a larger library.

Well, having a choice is always better than not having a choice. Nobody's forcing you to buy the PS3 just cause it's out. And march is a long time. More than a quarter even. I'm not angry myself, but I know that many others are. When you've already waited 6 months it's not exactly funny to be forced to wait an aditional 4. They did after all promise to ship worldwide before x-mas.

And regarding Blu-ray being better than HD DVD, recent test results shows otherwise: Blu-ray versus HD DVD

And according to a survey done by Microsoft, people tend to be a lot more satified with HD DVD than Blu-ray. HD DVD was easier to use and had better menues etc.

 

[arcthemonkey]

While that's not so much of a study as it is one guy nitpicking over brightness, it had some interesting points.

I attribute the menu problems he had to either the studios implementing them wrong, or him having a crappy player. There's no logical reason to assume that something inherent to Blu-ray causes menus to move slowly. Also, people only use single layer Blu-rays right now which are smaller than the HD-DVDs, no one will deny that, but that also may explain certain things there. The differences he pointed out were so small and/or circumstantial as to be almost irrelavant.

But it stands to reason that a Dual layer disk would outperform a single layer disk.

And finally, saying HD-DVD is easier to use it a fantastic thing to say. Once again, there is NOTHING that would make one inherantly easier to use than the other one, with the possible exception being the platform the menus are made in. Blu-ray uses Java, which when implemented correctly, means it can be as easy or as hard to use the developers make it.

My real point here is that it's too hard to make a verdict either way, but the fact still stands that Blu-ray is the superior media, and we can't argue against that using one guy's opinion.

And a poll by microsoft doesn't sway me one bit :P Online polls are silly anyway.

(Edit) Oh yeah! And for some reason Warner used MPEG-2 instead of VC-1 on its Blu-ray releases, which is more than enough to make the differnce. They don't do that anymore, and the picture quality is pretty much exactly the same.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/feature_blurayvshddvd_roundtwo.html