Sony Screws Europe....
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Sasame Kiryu
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Europe isn't so big as to affect sony so greatly as to hinder how badly they're doing right now =/ Sony is gritting their teeth just as hard as Europe right now. Which isn't very hard, mind you =|
Sasame Kiryu
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I just don't see where the benifit to that would be =/ IMO USA and Japan are WAY to big markets, and Europe is pretty much always compromised in these sorts of situations. I just think Europe can deal with it. Sony's losing out either way =\
Sasame Kiryu
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That just backs my arguement even more >_> If Europe is such a big market, why is this such a big deal? Japan and USA get stuck with the deffective PS3s, by the tim Europe gets them, they'll work all nice and stuff. Everything will be all higguldy pigguldy.Camisado said:
Yeah, I admit anything but the 'gay' partPrexus said:
, but you know what? There are no such things as 'SONY fanboys' or 'Microsoft fanboys'... think about the reason @Topic: I don't care what chances they have on the market or anything, as long as they don't mess it up like SEGA did (making too few commercials to get enough popularity for their console). Maybe I get myself a Wii for playing SSBB, maybe a PS3 for MGS4, never any kind of any X-Box (or 'Drecks-Box' in German, translates to 'Junk-Box', but sadly doesn't rhyme ^_^ ), and maybe a DS for playing SNES mobile ^_^ I'm surely not care about which company has an advantage at christmas, because the're always noobs which'll buy X-Boxes for playing sh00tahs and call theirselves 'Biatch' at XBox Live, being 4 years old... -.- I guess I went kinda off-topic ^_^
Camisado said:
That's true, HOWEVER, America, being one country, has a GIGANTIC population. And Japan has a large population too, despite it being small. And I doubt the PS2
was sold the most over their 3 major markets. Actually, I think the biggest would be the XBOX in America, or the Gamecube in Japan. PS2 is like the one in the middle in the current generation.
Not in the slightest. If people are going to buy your product, and numbers tell you that, then its Priority #1 to get your product to them. You want to sell your product, and putting it in stores where its going to sell is the best way to do that. Expanding your market is important, but its most important to sell your product. Delaying the release to focus on other markets isn't going to make you more money than delaying it in other areas.
That being said, if Sony had decided to delay America or Japan before Europe, you can be sure that heads would roll as far as Sony's fanbase in those places. So I suppose its safe to say Sony knows what they are doing, but the fact still remains that Europe is a market that they shouldn't neglect.
That being said, if Sony had decided to delay America or Japan before Europe, you can be sure that heads would roll as far as Sony's fanbase in those places. So I suppose its safe to say Sony knows what they are doing, but the fact still remains that Europe is a market that they shouldn't neglect.
Sasame Kiryu
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ROFLMFAO!! EVERYONE'S POSTING AT ONCE!!
@Bluescope: SEGA didn't screw up anything. It was the PS2 that single handedly destroyed it. On PS2's release in japan, it was the cheapest DVD player at the time, so Dreamcast was obscured and eventually devoured by darkness ;P
@Prexus: I whole heartidly agree.
@Bluescope: SEGA didn't screw up anything. It was the PS2 that single handedly destroyed it. On PS2's release in japan, it was the cheapest DVD player at the time, so Dreamcast was obscured and eventually devoured by darkness ;P
@Prexus: I whole heartidly agree.
Sega fucked up big time. Not with marketting, not with rival companies. Remember, the Dreamcast was out what? a year or two before PS2? PS2 didn't crush it, PS2 simply pulled the plug on a dying specimen.
Sega's fuck up with Dreamcast? First, they used Standard Compact Discs for their game format. Problem with that? Easy as hell to copy. PSX had that same problem but that brings me to point number two. Copy Protection! PSX -had- this. Granted, it was Modchippable, but that was a relatively unknown and hard to access feature. Dreamcast however didn't require a Modchip! All you needed were the right images (with the Copy-Protection overwrite frontend) or a simple boot disc.
Dreamcast couldn't sell games, nobody wanted to develop for it, and it died off. The games that were on Dreamcast were some of the best. Nobody can deny that, aside from the poor storyline turns and almost cinematic gameplay, Sonic Adventure was a fucking fun game.
Sega's fuck up with Dreamcast? First, they used Standard Compact Discs for their game format. Problem with that? Easy as hell to copy. PSX had that same problem but that brings me to point number two. Copy Protection! PSX -had- this. Granted, it was Modchippable, but that was a relatively unknown and hard to access feature. Dreamcast however didn't require a Modchip! All you needed were the right images (with the Copy-Protection overwrite frontend) or a simple boot disc.
Dreamcast couldn't sell games, nobody wanted to develop for it, and it died off. The games that were on Dreamcast were some of the best. Nobody can deny that, aside from the poor storyline turns and almost cinematic gameplay, Sonic Adventure was a fucking fun game.
Sasame Kiryu
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Hence the large wave of fan games in japan. Along with emulators, hacked games, downloadable ISO's, etc etc. Dreamcast set the exmple for any furture release of any console; PROTECT YOUR SHIT!! :P
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I just realized that I've been totally bitched by Prexus, though I agreed with him ;P
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I just realized that I've been totally bitched by Prexus, though I agreed with him ;P
Lol well I was correcting your point about Sega not fucking up, because they definately did. I'm sure Sony knew to protect their shit, and Nintendo has never needed to protect themselves from the average gamer since most don't have cartidge ripping software/hardware and burners designed to write to those tiny GCN discs.
Sasame Kiryu
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I guess I should get my facts straight before saying something ;P what an old topic though...
@Topic: In any case, my point still stands. Europe can take another one for the team. They don't have much room to complain, nor do can they really =\ I doubt Europe would be so rebellious as to shun Sony just because of this.
@Topic: In any case, my point still stands. Europe can take another one for the team. They don't have much room to complain, nor do can they really =\ I doubt Europe would be so rebellious as to shun Sony just because of this.
Thats our problem, we dont hate sony because of it, and we arent going to go jump on nintendo or microsofts boat either, its just, we're tired of waiting. We cant do anything about it, heck, I bought a DS near release just because I knew the psp wouldn't be out for awhile. The best thing they can do is get rid of region coding, but even then they have to do other languages.
Still, now when I get my kh2 I can tell my parents I'm practising french, eh?
Still, now when I get my kh2 I can tell my parents I'm practising french, eh?