PS3 Gaining Popularity?
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@Petros - The system is not £600, why does everyone keep saying that, its £415 for the expensive version and and the cheaper version is to be £340...
People who say they have no use for blu-ray aren't taking the rate technology develops into account. It's like saying you have no need for DVD when VHS was on it's way out... People wh oown a PS3 will be glad they have a blu-ray player in 3 years time, when all the specific players cost more.
This is linked to games too... it measn the discs for PS3 have a far larger capacity than either Wii or Xbox games.
The games aren't particularly innovative, but I don't think the Playstation has ever really been associated with innovative games...
@ Minkoff
Regardless of how much or how little Nintendo have made from previous consoles, I predict that it will flop on a mass scale because people won't be ready for the change, and people are number junkies, and the Wii can't offer big numbers. If doesn't flop, it will boom, it will be the thing everyone wants because they played the kids down the road and it was the best thing ever...
Therefore if Nintendo fail with two consoles in a row they may well consider reverting to software, considering this is their best talent anyway.
People who say they have no use for blu-ray aren't taking the rate technology develops into account. It's like saying you have no need for DVD when VHS was on it's way out... People wh oown a PS3 will be glad they have a blu-ray player in 3 years time, when all the specific players cost more.
This is linked to games too... it measn the discs for PS3 have a far larger capacity than either Wii or Xbox games.
The games aren't particularly innovative, but I don't think the Playstation has ever really been associated with innovative games...
@ Minkoff
Regardless of how much or how little Nintendo have made from previous consoles, I predict that it will flop on a mass scale because people won't be ready for the change, and people are number junkies, and the Wii can't offer big numbers. If doesn't flop, it will boom, it will be the thing everyone wants because they played the kids down the road and it was the best thing ever...
Therefore if Nintendo fail with two consoles in a row they may well consider reverting to software, considering this is their best talent anyway.
LegacyComplete
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spudalesca said:
ummmm what about ff7 remake? its not just a tech demo anymore they have officially aproved it......
Sion said:
That's a load bullcrap. Sure, the Gamecube was a flop, but if it was THAT bad, would they be making a new system? I mean, there are some GREAT games on the Gamecube, and the graphics on the Gamecube version of 3rd Party titles look great (Ok, the audio sucks, but that's not a big deal. 007 Nightfire comes to mind). The Wii is COMPLETELY different from the Gamecube in terms of functionality, and innovative features.
And was Ratchet & Clank offically announced? Cause if so, that's the first game I'm getting
And another remake of FF7 is EXACTLY what we need. Cause a crappy Metal Gear clone, a mediocre movie, PSP game, mobile game, and OVA are definitly nothing at all, COMPARED TO UPPED GRAPHICS!
High Mage Vivi
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1) Who in their right mind would spend that much on a console(unless its clad in solid gold)
2)the games so far are weak(KH3[potentially, FFXIII excluded)
3)£500+
4)THE PRICE!!!
get my point?
2)the games so far are weak(KH3[potentially, FFXIII excluded)
3)£500+
4)THE PRICE!!!
get my point?
$ != £. It is $600 and $500 in the US.Calibre said:
No. Most people don't have HDTVs. Blu-Ray is no better for video than DVD for them. When DVD came out, the benefits were immediate for everyone with a TV.
Also no. Unless the format fails (see: UMD, Betamax), the technology will be better developed and cheaper. The first DVD players were also very expnsive. Now you can get a good one for $35.
A certain breed of hardcore gamers on the internet are number junkies. Most people are not. Nintendo is trying to appeal to "most people."
For Nintendo, profitability is more important than market share. If you're calling the Gamecube a failure in terms of profitability, you don't know what you're talking about.
Anyway we should probably move the Wii stuff to a different thread if it keeps going.
TheBlackMarket
Member
It's true. This is business. This is why Nintendo laughs all the way to the bank whenever countless kids talk about how terrible thier games are.
For the gamecube to be a failure in every aspect of gaming, it would have to fail to have any games. While the Gamecube lagged very very far behind in terms of third party support, and as a result, software, it did manage to have some fantastic first party games. Nintendo seems to have finally shaken off that arrogance they had by the N64 era and is actually seeing support from third parties now. The blanket term 'gaming' you use in describing the Gamecube's irrelevance is weak. Different people have different taste in games. While the Gamecube is unable to satisfy most peoples tastes with its lack of a diverse game library, it does have enough games that are worthwhile for it to not be considered a failure in gaming.
The virtual boy; that was a failure. The 3DO, the Jaguar; both failures. The Dreamcast; also a failure. Why were they failures? They failed because they didn't make enough money for thier parent companies to be sustained on them; in a business, this is failure. The game industry is a business, and as cold and unfriendly as that may seem, it's how things work. The Gamecube is the only one of the three current gen consoles that brought in a profit- Microsoft and Sony stared at pages of red ink until only recently. Those who keep saying that the only anti-PS3 argument around deals with price must remember this -- it doesn't matter what Sony says they're giving you, or the supposed 'value' of having a Blu-Ray player for such a price; the PlayStation name carries the stigma of being a Game console. Justifying a $600 price tag for the average person is a very difficult matter to work with if your product carries that sort of stigma. It doesn't matter what kind of power the machine has under the hood, or how many times Sony labels it as a computer- the PS family name is now known for gaming, and that is going to be tough to change.
If the Wii cost $600 and was a powerhouse, I wouldn't buy it. If the 360 cost that kind of money and was a powerhouse, I wouldn't buy it. Fanboys and Blu-Ray be damned, $600 is a lot of money to be spending on a single game machine! Most movie buffs are wary of Blu-Ray because of Sony's track record of failed proprietory formats, even if the picture quality is better than sex. Personally, I'd like to be able to have all the game consoles, but price has always been a barrier. If I could get a PS3, then fine, I'd take it. I'm not particularly interested at the moment, but all the big name consoles are bound to have at least a worthwhile game or two. I'm pretty sure Gradius VI is gonna be on the PS3, and I will not miss Gradius VI, but I'll have to find somebody who's willing to spend that kind of money and has similar taste in games with me in order to make that happen. I simply cannot afford $600 at the moment; hell, I can't afford $300. I'll be lucky if I can afford a Wii, so price is a very big deal for me.
I'm not going to speak for anyone else; just myself. Until the PS3 drops a couple hundred, I'm not interested. Besides the price point and my general distaste for Sony's business practices, I'm somewhat neutral on the console itself. Until I see some Gradius VI screens, I'm going to wait.
For the gamecube to be a failure in every aspect of gaming, it would have to fail to have any games. While the Gamecube lagged very very far behind in terms of third party support, and as a result, software, it did manage to have some fantastic first party games. Nintendo seems to have finally shaken off that arrogance they had by the N64 era and is actually seeing support from third parties now. The blanket term 'gaming' you use in describing the Gamecube's irrelevance is weak. Different people have different taste in games. While the Gamecube is unable to satisfy most peoples tastes with its lack of a diverse game library, it does have enough games that are worthwhile for it to not be considered a failure in gaming.
The virtual boy; that was a failure. The 3DO, the Jaguar; both failures. The Dreamcast; also a failure. Why were they failures? They failed because they didn't make enough money for thier parent companies to be sustained on them; in a business, this is failure. The game industry is a business, and as cold and unfriendly as that may seem, it's how things work. The Gamecube is the only one of the three current gen consoles that brought in a profit- Microsoft and Sony stared at pages of red ink until only recently. Those who keep saying that the only anti-PS3 argument around deals with price must remember this -- it doesn't matter what Sony says they're giving you, or the supposed 'value' of having a Blu-Ray player for such a price; the PlayStation name carries the stigma of being a Game console. Justifying a $600 price tag for the average person is a very difficult matter to work with if your product carries that sort of stigma. It doesn't matter what kind of power the machine has under the hood, or how many times Sony labels it as a computer- the PS family name is now known for gaming, and that is going to be tough to change.
If the Wii cost $600 and was a powerhouse, I wouldn't buy it. If the 360 cost that kind of money and was a powerhouse, I wouldn't buy it. Fanboys and Blu-Ray be damned, $600 is a lot of money to be spending on a single game machine! Most movie buffs are wary of Blu-Ray because of Sony's track record of failed proprietory formats, even if the picture quality is better than sex. Personally, I'd like to be able to have all the game consoles, but price has always been a barrier. If I could get a PS3, then fine, I'd take it. I'm not particularly interested at the moment, but all the big name consoles are bound to have at least a worthwhile game or two. I'm pretty sure Gradius VI is gonna be on the PS3, and I will not miss Gradius VI, but I'll have to find somebody who's willing to spend that kind of money and has similar taste in games with me in order to make that happen. I simply cannot afford $600 at the moment; hell, I can't afford $300. I'll be lucky if I can afford a Wii, so price is a very big deal for me.
I'm not going to speak for anyone else; just myself. Until the PS3 drops a couple hundred, I'm not interested. Besides the price point and my general distaste for Sony's business practices, I'm somewhat neutral on the console itself. Until I see some Gradius VI screens, I'm going to wait.