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Girl pregnant at 11

Nin

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Didn't it say in the article that she is currently 8 months pregnant, or did I read wrong?

EDIT:
the article":1opoy8wh said:
The girl smokes 20 cigarettes a day despite being eight months' pregnant.
So I'm not crazy.
 
What if this story makes kids aroung that age think: Everyone's having it but me.
Some articles (n newspapers, magazines, anything like that) have this effect sometimes.
 

$t3v0

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roman candle":xliqlea8 said:
House? Car? You must be joking. Firstly you can't draw full benefits till the age of 18.
Are you sure their parents are eilgable to recieve it for them? If not, By the time they reach the legal age, they'll be scrounging.

And your point about the image of a teenage mother being a benefit hoard, It's the truth! I mean, don't get me wrong...They obviously need to get by somehow, and mistakes do happen. But I'll tell you now, The majority of the teenage population claiming benefits for house and food don't care about the situation at all, and will most likely not change the way things are if given the chance until they reach a more mature age. These type of people are the kind you see hanging around the YMCA or your local Spar grocery at 1am with more make up on than boy george. I don't know one person who I grew up with who hasn't cared about their sexual relations with their girlfriends, as they care for their future and where they end up in life.

The problem is, Giving these people money is changing the way the world has evolved to what it is today! The Survival of the fittest goes a long way to creating a better world. Not only that, it's forcing the government to allow more illegal immigrants over the border for a little thing called colonisation. The more people in the country, the more taxes paid. The more taxes paid, the more teenage families are kept warm and cosy free of charge. I just think it's a disgrace. End of.

~ $t3v0
 
If the kid doesn't die before babyhood is over, he/she'll be in second grade by the time Mommy graduates, if she graduates at all (which I doubt). It reminds me of when I first came to LHC, I met these girls who were 12 or 13 who were amazed at the fact I was a virgin. :S It was, like, the first thing they asked.

It's just that naive kids or teens see sex everywhere, on TV and they see stars singing about it and having sex on screen (Lsat week in the newspapers there were 8 year old kids singing "Toxic" by britney spears, a song about sex) and they start to see it so gratuitously that they become desensitized.

And: will the baby be small, or will the poor child be put under a lot of pain? Idk, maybe she'll be drunk.

@$t3v0: Illegal immigrants pay taxes?
 
Zalzer, we don't graduate in the UK. We leave school when we are 16, and by the sounds of it, she won't be going back to school anyway. After we leave school, we then, depending on our school GCSE's can go to college for 1 -3 years, and then based on those results, go to university for 2-6 years.
 
Well, I'm from Costa Rica and people here start drinking at a really young age, like at 11 or 12, and there's a lot of these cases here too. I really believe the problem is there's no sex ed courses in public schools. Anyhow, in my school they never taught me anything until like 5th grade, I believe.

I think this is the kids' fault, the parents' fault and the government's fault.
 

$t3v0

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djzalzer":2w0k6c96 said:
@$t3v0: Illegal immigrants pay taxes?
I probably shouldn't have said "Illegal", as the process of the government allowing them in is perfectly legal. I just meant immigrants in general. They allow them to pass into our country, give them jobs that rightfully belong to people who was born and raised in this nation, and then they pay taxes.

~ $t3v0
 

Mac

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It just shows you how Society is falling....this is on reason why i want to move to America..cause its more controlled over there and punished better.

In the Article you can clearly see that this girl was a dirty CHAV...i hate them i don't really care what happens to her, hopefully she'll die during pregnancy from her liver rupturing from alcohol and her lungs packing in because of smoking.

Good Riddance.
 
In the Article you can clearly see that this girl was a dirty CHAV...i hate them i don't really care what happens to her, hopefully she'll die during pregnancy from her liver rupturing from alcohol and her lungs packing in because of smoking.

I personally don't agree with comments like this. She may well be a chav but she was merely an 11 year old. The only reason she was a chav is because she born and raised by some adult ones. I would never wish death upon a child regardless of what socio-class they fit into. I mean if that child was raised by appropriate parents from day one, do you think she'd have turned out the same.

In my opinion, she has many more years of mentally developing before she can truly discover who she really is anyway. My brother is 14 and he dresses in a similar way to chav's and speaks with coarse language 24/7 for no reason. But will he when he is my age. I very much doubt it. It's just a stage he will go through because he is influenced by the people around him. It's just because the majority of children grow up believing what they are told by the people that have the most influence in their lives. Children are highly manipulable.

My point is, I wish people would stop blaming a young child for the obvious neglect and stupidity of her parents. This stupidity is pretty much clarified by the mothers statement that is she is proud of her daughter. Sometimes I think people forget how much they mature from the start to the end of their childhoods. An eleven year old is still very young, though she may think she is grown up, her brain hasn't, and with the backing and guidance she has, probably never will.
 
The Survival of the fittest goes a long way to creating a better world.
No, Social Darwinism was the policy championed by the NAZIs, actually. And you know, it did not make a better world. The mistake comes in thinking that if you are successful, it's beacuse you're a better person. I am frankly appauled by the attitudes of the British shown in this thread.
 
@Calibre: Please forgive my ignorant American-ness!

@$t3v0: Okay. Thanks for clarifying. (Where I live, illegal immigrants get drivers licenses and government benefits, but don't pay taxes. =\)
 
Roman Candle said:
No, Social Darwinism was the policy championed by the NAZIs, actually. And you know, it did not make a better world. The mistake comes in thinking that if you are successful, it's beacuse you're a better person. I am frankly appauled by the attitudes of the British shown in this thread.
Zackly. And what happens when there are only the fittest? There are of course the "fittest-est". Its a policy of regularity and xenophobia.
I dont think this poor parenting should be 'applauded' though, and I dont think the romans had it right screwing little boys just because it happened to go hand in hand with the athiestic enlightenment of the time. I think actions like this are a step forward in the policies that the freethinking romans had wrong. Too much freedom is just as dangerous as too much order.
 
Its a cycle, though. Because its believed by many that the only reason those policies failed in the past was a "tainted pool" and that once the _______s are extinguished that weakness will die with them. So it'll keep happening so long as people are convinced their breed is capable of overcoming those fallacies once the 'inferior' breeds are isolated. But even if a regime ever came about and did that, those that survived would further be divided by "purity" because the problems wouldnt go away. Its a human condition, not a jew condition, or a muslim condition, or a black condition. People dont want to believe that, though. What with the ego and whatnot.
 
ryanwh said:
Its a cycle, though. Because its believed by many that the only reason those policies failed in the past was a "tainted pool" and that once the _______s are extinguished that weakness will die with them. So it'll keep happening so long as people are convinced their breed is capable of overcoming those fallacies once the 'inferior' breeds are isolated. But even if a regime ever came about and did that, those that survived would further be divided by "purity" because the problems wouldnt go away. Its a human condition, not a jew condition, or a muslim condition, or a black condition. People dont want to believe that, though. What with the ego and whatnot.

Actually, that's not why champions of Social Darwinism believe that the policies have failed in the past. See, at its core Social Darwinism is not a racist standpoint... it judges all races to be equal in their possession of negative character traits. Champions argue that experiments in Social Darwinism failed in the past precisely because of the prejudices of those applying it.

Further, the idea of "superior" or "inferior" races predate Social Darwinism by a considerable sum of years. Essentially, champions of Social Darwinism argue that it has failed in the past due to the very sort of thing (the racist character flaw) that it seeks to weed out.


DISCLAIMER: Social Darwinism is a largely discounted theory (in fact, Darwin himself was opposed to it), but not for the reasons that have been stated in this thread. Fundamentally, it is an untenable application of evolutionary theory to social structures, which simply do not "evolve" in the same way that natural organisms do.
 

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