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you'd let your kids go to school with Gary Suraci?

Gary Suraci, the principal of Ulster BOCES Career and Technical Center in Port Ewen, N.Y., is undergoing a sex change. Now, instead of being Gary Suraci he will be Genna Suraci. Gary Suraci was known well, in the last 11 years on the job, he's won awards for his work and so on, but now that he's a woman it seems these contributions don't matter much anymore.

So the kids leave school saying goodbye to Gary, and when the come back from summer vacation they say hi to Genna. And it's causing noise, on whether or not this should be allowed. Now his/her job is protected due to law, but it's still pissing people off saying it's unacceptable.

And if this is acceptable, what's not? If this is too bizarre, what is acceptable? Just from listening to what some people have said I'm confused, it seems people are less concerned by the younger members of society - their education and how much Gar-err... Genna Suraci has done for them - as opposed to ethics, and morals. Would you let your kids go to school with Gary Suraci? Or rather Genna Suraci?

I don't see a reason why not, but share away your thoughts.
 
I don't see the big deal either. What he does to his own body is his (er... her?) own business. As long as she doesn't try to do anything funny with my kid, what would I care of her preferred gender?
 

Kraft

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Hmm lets see... *sarchastic*

I am going to let my kids go to a school where the principal obviously approves or sex change, and it probably gay (lesbian?)



Hmm... Not exactly the kind of person I would let teach my kids!

That is coming from a person who totally disapproves of all gay marriage, and thinks that it it immorally disgusting.

EDIT... well, I guess since this was quoted and kinda taken out of context, I will redeem myself ^_^
I would not let my kids go to a school where the principal was like that.
 
It's possible to get a sex change?

Well... It should not matter. The kids are getting education, right? So there's nothing to really complain about, it's not like the kids are going to explode because some dude did a sex change.
 
In my opinion, if some guy is willing to get his penis chopped off, then what won't he do? I'd keep him away from my child, just to be on the safe side.
 

Anonymous

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atematem":2qdj864d said:
As long as she doesn't try to do anything funny with my kid, what would I care of her preferred gender?

why would this even cross your mind. why does this cross anybody's mind.

kraft":2qdj864d said:
I am going to let my kids go to a school where the principal obviously approves or sex change, and it probably gay (lesbian?)

Hmm... Not exactly the kind of person I would let teach my kids!

I HEARD GAY PEOPLE LIKE TO EAT CHILDREN (JEWS DO THIS TOO AND ARABS AND BLIND PEOPLE) THEY MUST BE STOPPED

seriously man OPEN-MINDEDNESS isn't a BAD TRAIT for a teacher whatsoever. open-minded teachers like to teach kids to be more informed about whacky shit like GAYS and ATHEISTS and all these silly things that are "ruining american values".

sparx-666":2qdj864d said:
In my opinion, if some guy is willing to get his penis chopped off, then what won't he do? I'd keep him away from my child, just to be on the safe side.

dude what. they don't CHOP IT OFF they remove the skin and shit and juggle it around and make a vajayjay. it's not like GRAB SCISSORS SNIP SNIP SLICE A HOLE YOU ARE NOW A WOMAN it is much more advanced and really doesn't involve CHOPPING. more slicing and stuffing, like a turkey. see: vaginoplasty.

also it's not like MRS. STUFFED TURKEY GENITALS is suddenly going to have an urge to MOLEST YOUR CHILD that is just a really really fucking dumb mindset.

601/4 you are a coolsmart guy but asking IS A SEX CHANGE WEIRD to a forum full of 14-year-olds is kindof not one of your best.

but yeah this is perfectly normal. i mean BOCES is a pretty whacky place anyway (i went there :3) so it's not like HELLO MRI MEAN MRS. SURACI HOW WAS YOUR SUMMER is going to really TRAUMATIZE ANYONE. hell, it's good to introduce kids to this kindof shit early - maybe it'll teach them to suck less than their parents (american parents of young kids today are pretty terrible people for quite a number of reasons).

guys just because mr. garrison had a sex change in south park doesn't mean everyone who has a sex change is going to turn into him. tv is not real. tv is your enemy. learn to research things before ever talking again.
 
don't even act as if there's absolutely nothing weird about this. people are trying too hard to be nice to everyone, and be open minded now-a-days.

i damn sure don't want to have to explain to my child what the hell happened, and why his wacky principal doesn't wanna piss standing up anymore. of course, that's only if this is an elementry school, or has young students. If it's a highschool, big deal, they'll get over it.
 
OH NOES. HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WILL BE RAPED.

If the parents are naive enough to believe not only that their HIGH SCHOOL kids don't know what a sex change is and that they think anything of it other than "lol" then let them. Fact is he's hardly gonna whip out his new mammaries in a corridor.

@Kraft, close minded muppet.
 
Maybe you are the ones that are close minded. He disaproves gay stuff, so what? It's his holy opinion on the subject. I also disaprove homossexuality and I totaly disaprove sex change. If your genes wanted you to have a dick and not be a girl you should respect their decision. Now, I am not gonna kill someone who does sex change, wtf it's their body, they can go kill themselves.
I don't see a reason to not let my kids go to that school, he is not a criminal or anything.
 

Rye

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If your genes wanted you to have a dick and not be a girl you should respect their decision.

In that way of thinking, if my genes want me to have breast cancer or any kind of illness that goes through generations, shall I just let it get me? I mean, if it is in my genes, heaven forbid I go against it. ;)

But really, I see nothing wrong with the principal. H/She's the same person as they were before, just a lady instead of a dude. If someone is really unhappy with what they are (i.e. a man or a woman) and they have the power to change it, why not? If it makes them happier, then it should be fine! And parents can't keep their kids sheltered all the time.
 
PeteD2S;268963 said:
Maybe you are the ones that are close minded. He disaproves gay stuff, so what? It's his holy opinion on the subject. I also disaprove homossexuality and I totaly disaprove sex change.

By that logic, people who disapprove of the KKK are being close minded.

Not being okay with a close minded opinion does NOT make you close minded.
 

Anonymous

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wickitclownz69":14ksi8vi said:
i damn sure don't want to have to explain to my child what the hell happened, and why his wacky principal doesn't wanna piss standing up anymore.

then you'd be a shit parent. any parent who doesn't teach their kid PRETTY IMPORTANT SHIT like this and discards it as "lol ew fuck that im just gonna pull em out heh fuck their friends i dont agree with someones basic constitutional rights" is really pathetic.

peted2s":14ksi8vi said:
Maybe you are the ones that are close minded. He disaproves gay stuff, so what? It's his holy opinion on the subject. I also disaprove homossexuality and I totaly disaprove sex change. If your genes wanted you to have a dick and not be a girl you should respect their decision.

i'm completely open-minded regarding closed-minded opinions. it doesn't mean i don't think the people who have them are complete idiots though. nobody who opposes GAYS or GAY MARRIAGE can back their opposition up with anything other than "ew hes stickin a d*ck in his butt", "god doesnt want it like that!!", or "its tradition", one of which is childish, one of which is utterly stupid, and one of which fails to take into account that stoning unfaithful family members is tradition too.
 
America is f*cked up. In Canada, nobody would have bat an eye at this. Reason being that it doesn't f*cking matter, in the slightest. The guy can do whatever he wants, whether people want him to or not. If the law protects his job, then the law protects his job. With such a drastic change, even if he lost his job I don't think he'd have cared.

Sex Changes aren't just a matter of "Oh hey, I'm gay but no man wants me so I am gonna get a VAGINA." It's more of a matter of "I feel like a woman inside, and nobody understands. Why don't I just become a woman outside and make myself happy?"
 
In my opinion sex changes\homosexuality are just wrong. Think of it this way; Imagine it's a puzzle. The pieces just don't fit, no matter how much you try to force it to work. I'd first meet the guy (Gal?) at decide for myself if S/He is fine. I'm not saying "oMg! Homos are SaTAN WORshiPERS!" No, that's not it at all. I just think the basic concept of it all is immoral and wrong.
 
buffalo;269064 said:
how. i mean really what is IMMORAL OR WRONG ABOUT HAPPINESS.
Finding "Happiness" in the wrong places more like.
I could bring religious views into this, but even without them, my opinion remains.
Besides, when two guys attempt to have sex, It damages the body, there has got to be something wrong with that.
 

Rye

Member

Finding "Happiness" in the wrong places more like.

Oh, so now you can tell someone how they can be happy? Like you know better than the person themselves? What a great way to control the masses! It's like you can tell a kid: oh, you can't be happy going down the slide because that's immoral! You can be happy on the swing instead. Instead of, of course, letting the child choose. Let people live their own lives and stop trying to control them. If they are happy as a different gender than what they were born as, then that's happiness to them. You shouldn't define it for them.
 
Who says its wrong? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember God coming to someone in a vision saying "Gays are wrong, lol", and I'm sure it isn't in the bible. It's just something the church made up cause they are prejudice bastards.
 
There are two primary arguements why the Church is against homosexuality.

First, the bible explicitly states that marriage is to be between a man and a woman. While this only applies to marriage, most people argue that it applies throughout.

Second, it goes against God's divine plan. Although, to be completely honest, if God's divine plan was to have no homosexuals, then there would be no homosexuals. End of Story.

But this isn't about Gay and Straight, this is about a guy who got a sex change and the impact it will have on the students of the high school where he is a principal.
 

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