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Marcus

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As much as I love to agree with you there, you kind have to consider the fact that everyone from that country hardly wore much of anything.

Well, every other female in the game wore pants but this is actually a stereotype right here.  When it's hot outside you actually want to wear more clothes.  Think about it, a bunch of white guys exposed to the sun and blistering heat... not good for the skin, you know?  The reason people who live in desert climates wear an assortment of robes and head dresses is because it keeps their body sweating (a natural cooling method) and protects them from burns and sand. 

If Ashe fell down a sand dune she'd be pretty uncomfortable until she changed her pants.  And yes, I actually think about this things while playing RPGs since most of the gameplay entails WALK WALK WALK PRESS X it gives me time to think about dumb and seemlingly meaningless things.  I don't pay attention to them in action games because they require my full attention which is why RPG developers need to focus more attention to the details.
 
Then again... Revenant Wings did kill that theory. And I recall playing XII and not once experiencing any romance happening between Penelo and Vaan.
 
I'd rather have a "badass" character because that is more believable than someone who isn't a badass yet is still managing to physically fight off hordes of enemies in most RPGs.
 

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Love the picture of The Boss from MGS3. She is, in my opinion, the best female Antagonist I have ever played against.
 
hi122neo":2ejb452a said:
Hehe, I was just talking about usless women in video-games with my friend...  The most usless video-game female;  Aerith.  If you get used to summoning in battle, kiss it good bye!

Stupid bitch had to go and killed by Sephiroth...

Haha, she got killed by you!

Marcus":2ejb452a said:
Just like Ashe from Final Fantasy XII.  She's essentially a twin sister of Yuna but Ashe wears this stupidly short mini-skirt.

Are you talking about the Yuna in FFX or FFX-2? Because Yuna in FFX was probably the best female protagonist I have ever seen. Although I havent played to many games with a female protagonist....
 

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Verdeni":952mjq81 said:
Then again... Revenant Wings did kill that theory. And I recall playing XII and not once experiencing any romance happening between Penelo and Vaan.

I dont think they were lovers, in fact, they werent even interesting enough to be granted love in my opinion.
 
I dont think they were lovers, in fact, they werent even interesting enough to be granted love in my opinion.

I agree with that. Love in videos games is overrated. The problem is, althought it didn't show in the original, in Revenant Wings, I'm pretty sure they were... Oh! And guess what! In Revenant Wings Penelo had a low cut belly shirt and really low pants. And she cooked, and healed. And the other girl, Filo, got kidnapped. =D  Aaaaanyway, back to my point, in Revenant Wings, Penelo falls in love with another man, so I'm not sure how complete their love was, or if they were just REALLY good friends. Afterall, they grew up together... their whole life...
 

moog

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Verdeni":1iwg8v7b said:
I dont think they were lovers, in fact, they werent even interesting enough to be granted love in my opinion.

Oh! And guess what! In Revenant Wings Penelo had a low cut belly shirt and really low pants. And she cooked, and healed.

Haha, are you serious?

Man I am so glad I did not buy that game.
 
What about Samus Aran or Jade from Beyond Good and Evil, or basically any of the women from No More Heroes?  They don't fit either of those stereotypes at all.

Note - Fanfics and japanese hentai art of Zero Suit Samus does not count.  Fuck japan :|:|:|:|:|:|:|
 
I can see where this topic is coming from, but for every useless female character, there's usually a fairly strong one somewhere to make the balance.

Though I will agree that it often seems contrary, but that's probably because the good females show up more commonly in the more niche series and titles, rather than the big hitters like Final Fantasy. I also agree that western games tend to oversexualise women. I w8nt flat chest, lolz.

Frankly, I'd always rather see a cliche'd 'fyad oh noes I is kidnapped, rescue me plz' princess character than another emo guy with dubious sexuality in a game anyday. At least the former can be chalked down to a neccessary evil, or a fantasy stereotype.

This issue applies to guys almost as badly: there's a preposterous amount of whiny brats and macho 'look at ma ego, beatch!' blokes hanging around in games whom are just as irritiating.

To be honest, it doesn't bother me so long as it stays balanced. My favourite counterpoint example: Dahlia Hawthorne from Phoenix Wright 3. She is quite possibly the most awesome villian EVAR.
 
Frankly, I'd always rather see a cliche'd 'fyad oh noes I is kidnapped, rescue me plz' princess character than another emo guy with dubious sexuality in a game anyday. At least the former can be chalked down to a neccessary evil, or a fantasy stereotype.

XD That paragraph right there is hilarious! It's so true~! Like Alfred Ashford from Resident Evil: Code Veronica! He's so scary! XD
 
Glad you agree.

Yeah, emo guys with sexuality issues are far more irritating than useless/needy princesses, IMHO. But then again, I'm sure the various swarms of fangirls would disagree with/annihilate/brutalise me. (delete as appropriate)
 
Yeah. As well as my friends haha! Not only are they fangirls, they're MORBID fangirls.... 0.0


And seaking of Resident Evil, most of the main characters... or Veronica at least, were not vulnerable or revealing! =D
 
I readed over this topic .. and went up to my room see if there's one game i have where that isn't a probleme ..
Seems like i guess your right .
though there's one i can't really place in one .. but i think i'm forgetting some details ...

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb261/Achantion/180px-Mariatraydor.jpg[/img]
Maria traynor
- She's isn't really almighty ? (eughh atleast not in the story .. in battle she's second best)
- She isn't in love with someone
- She is afraid of things
- doesn't alaways wants to assist the protoganist

- I am forgetting things right ?

only 1 who i think proofs your wrong in a collection of 50 games  :shock:
 

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