Why Prison Doesn't Work (or DOES it?)

[Echo Magnum]

Yeah, legal drugs in the grimy hands of an already greedy government would probably be just as bad in the hands of crime organizations. Oh did I mention how much our prison sucks ass, it makes a U.S prison look like a hotel! But no one really cares about convicts.

I'm not too sure about the situation in mexico, Maybe legal or not you'll always have profit hungry goons and drug lords. What makes the situation worse is how a lot of music these days seems to glorify being a "hustler" in return the crime rate might be affected by wannabe bad-ass kids/punks copying what they see on t.v... I'm starting to think maybe most people want it this way so they can point a finger at someone when the shit hits the fan.

 

[Mr_Smith]

Government should offer more competitive prices, as they can do it without going for profit. The only reason those cartels are doing it is for profit, if the government competes they have no reason to keep fighting for territory.

 

[mouse_std]

they should have death sentence for drug crime , it dispose any starter intent on young ppl :tongue:
+ prison wont be so crowded

 

[moog]

they should have death sentence for drug crime , it dispose any starter intent on young ppl :tongue:
+ prison wont be so crowded

U trollin, or what

 

[mouse_std]

being realistic :blank: if theres no proper consequences young tenage will think its okay to do it, even if they do it they think they just go to jail. besides it also reduce population/cost that can be used for ppl in need.
bettwen feeding convict who kill ppl mercilesly or poor bum who do menial work, id pick the 2nd, at least they dont hurt other ppl.

 

[dadevvtsvre]

being realistic :blank: if theres no proper consequences young tenage will think its okay to do it, even if they do it they think they just go to jail. besides it also reduce population/cost that can be used for ppl in need.
bettwen feeding convict who kill ppl mercilesly or poor bum who do menial work, id pick the 2nd, at least they dont hurt other ppl.

can i kill you for making terrible posts

 

[dadevvtsvre]

being realistic :blank: if theres no proper consequences young tenage will think its okay to do it, even if they do it they think they just go to jail. besides it also reduce population/cost that can be used for ppl in need.
bettwen feeding convict who kill ppl mercilesly or poor bum who do menial work, id pick the 2nd, at least they dont hurt other ppl.

are you seriously suggesting we should kill everybody that does drugs? i don't know about you but i don't want to live in an Orwellian society.

 

[mouse_std]

sell drugs , i have limited english , but i think im better at it than u ...

 

[Injury]

@mouse

Please, do yourself a favor and stop breathing.

...and even more of a favor. Don't breed.

 

[Echo Magnum]

Killing innocent people has never solved anything, drugs are only bad because they are produced and un-natural but If you where to study the natural potency of weed, its totally harmless, maybe smoking is harmful but you dont have to go killing a 13 year old for experimenting here and there or shoot down a peace loving hippy for what...fear? Fear is the worst form of control, it always results in revolt and anger in the end, just look at Libya, Gadafis corpse laying in some street because he chose to lead a nation with fear and dominance and killed innocent people.

 

[mouse_std]

@injury: what ur suggesting is the same as me , talking about other ppl live or dead :tongue: but i at least admit it not being hypocrite.
@echo: selling or giving drugs is never good, if u too lax on dealing it, ppl will just continue to do it(sell drugs), dont give crap knowledge , yeah its cuz human use it wrongly(so?), drugs can be used for medicine(so?), dont spout knowledge to make urself look smart/cool.
cadafy is a different matter, all he care is himself, if he use drugs or not i dunno. if u want to use example find a good one.
what im talking is a strict rule so drugs traffic will recede. im not talking about relasing an army to kill civilian , shooting their heads off , NO! maybe ur mind wanted it like that but not me :shades:
and ur example of 13 year old is very scary thought, u should check a doctor.

 

[moog]

seriously stop making thoughtless posts, you need to be more educated.

 

[Echo Magnum]

You misinterpreted my post, my point is simple, you said something about death penalty am I wrong?

they should have death sentence for drug crime , it dispose any starter intent on young ppl
+ prison wont be so crowded

Why would you want to instill fear into the minds of young people? I get your point that selling drugs is bad, that's true because of selling drugs they become produced for profit, and my comment about Gadafi was simply an example of someone who used fear to instill control and dominance. I just brought that up because it was the most ready example, its on the news. I'm not trying to be smart maybe your just feeling intimidated but I never meant to try and look "smarter" than you ( Mr-Mouse ) or whatever.

I'm just being realistic, teenagers want to try new things, they are more easy pressured by peers and they want to be accepted, its not shocking to find a 13-14 year old trying drugs ( alcohol included ) because of this, obviously if you are a parent you would, but the reality wont change. You can only try get better control over the drugs, making them medicinal and natural and perhaps sorting out the whole "drugs are cool and fun" thing the media seems to portray.

Something better than fear of some punishment because that is exactly what people rebel against.

You can't control with fear.
( what you fear/resist persists )

What happens if you' like you said' kill all the people who commit drug crime, giving a very vague post I amuse you also mean users, what if that user was your child? would you want to kill them? would you want to brainwash them to look down om those who use or sell drugs? don't you realize drug users and sellers have a lot of issues, they probably don't have the education to have a regular job or are in depressing situations, any you want to kill them? Look at your own post. It's very vague and
un-moral. Your the one who needs your head checked. Or where you just trolling?
( if that's the case then I shouldn't have taken you seriously but last time I checked this was in general discussion not welp welp or whatever )

Anyway this is not what this threads about...

 

[mouse_std]

pfftt u live in a dream world

 

[Mr_Smith]

pfftt u live in a dream world

Says who? QFT.

 

[mouse_std]

hhhh...do i have to explain it?
what i meant by him live in his dream world is becuz he thought drug is the only inducing fear there is.
what about nuclear? increase weapon technology? firearm sold in store? theres a lot of fear factor around.
and yeah @echo ur an idiot who want to sound smart.
i never said anything about the user of drugs.
if u read the previous post (if u can read) i did said ppl who SELL DRUGS , ppl who use it are victim , V.I.C.T.I.M, do.u.understand? good...or maybe u dont...
whatever they have issues or problem that doesnt permit them to sell drugs -_- , its like saying "oh hey i got a headache ill just rob ppl ".
ppl who sell drugs wanted a quick fix and doesnt care about other ppl,
so yeah if u believe ppl who said i" cant do anything else so i had to sell drugs" , ur an idiot. theres a lot kinds of job there is even if its menial work, so what, u dont want to get ur hand dirty so u just sell drugs?
if the user is my kid , i will do at my most that my kid would get better, different matter if they sell drugs.
its cuz more ppl like u that drugs persist, maybe u sell drugs too i dunno i dont wanna make accusation like what u did to me.

ps:whats with u and using example of 13 year old? do u have some grudge against them? + ur an idiot

 

[Mr_Smith]

mouse_std uses Wall of Text on Mr_Smith!
It's super effective!


Seriously, you never said that you meant people who sell drugs. However, it's not fair to call Echo an idiot if you scream for death sentence for drug crime. Yea sure, you should do "menial" work above selling drugs, but that's not how it works. Enough young people who sell drugs are the kind of people that grew up with it, be it from parents, family or simply environment. Death penalty is seriously too much for drug crime. It's a fucking irreversible penalty, which means that once you gave it to someone, it's done, over with.

+ ur an idiot

 

[mouse_std]

really? i thought i mention it in earlier post :blank: umm sory bout that...NOT!
and from your explanation how does it all began? its becuz lax of strict rule right? if it doesnt stop now its just gonna continue and grow more and more.
do i still have to make myself clear that what i meant is to the person who sell the drugs and not the user......
a person who sell the drugs (mostly) are aware of the danger of the drugs and they keep selling it, even if theyr caught theres no extensive punishment except going to prison, if this mind keep continue then drugs would never stop to cease.....oh well i dont really care either way its just my opinion...u dont care so why should i right?
i know that death penalty is very serious,but what other option that u think can make drugs stop? except being an idiot and accept it...do tell....and pls dont tell me its about campaigning about stoping drugs or some shit -_- it doesnt work, prob only couple of ppl.
u prob wont care about the criminal if they hurt ur family, hey its not like they sell it to ur family right?, if u still care about them either way ,then u have bigger heart than me and i am so wrong about this.

+ ur an idiot too XD hahaha

 

[Mr_Smith]

Let's agree to disagree. You say death penalty for drug SELLERS, I say not. It's a yes or no game, and that's pointless.

 

[mouse_std]

game???? i see,... its a game to you huh.....
i was making a suggestion for how to recede the rise of drug traffic and then u abruptly making statement that i was wrong and giving ur own opinion on it.
i only ask what is ur solution to it that will make my solution go pale in comparison, plain and simple.
i ask u too @echo ,since ur smart .....right?