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Torik

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Hmmmm you have a point with the beer statement =) . But I think it is all dating from that moment when things are kinda awkward up to where you either break up or get married.
 
I love to see all these dudes commenting on this, it's actually rather funny to me.

Woman's opinion? Why yes, I'm a woman! And I have an opinion? !wow! ;)

When I was a teenager I was thin and well-curved and I wore whatever I could get away with. Tiny skirts, board shorts, tube tops. It was San Diego, and these things were acceptable, all the girls dressed like that.

Why did I dress skimpy? I didn't have anything to hide. I had immense self esteem and I didn't mind flaunting. Some girls do it to attract boys, but I did it as an affront of sorts. All girls need to feel pretty, and they all do it in different ways. I didn't care if I looked a little trampy, I rather liked the cat calls. They let me know I looked good.

When I met my husband, I suddenly toned it down. He never said anything to me about how I dressed, but it felt like I didn't have to show off anymore. He never judged me and his opinion was all I really cared about after that.

Now, going on seven years into our relationship (we were married in April of this year), I dress more conservatively than most people. It's probably because marriage and a desk job has packed a few pounds onto my thighs, and it may be simply from wanting to look professional, but I still sometimes envy the days when I felt confident enough to traipse around in a bikini top and bun-huggers on the pier, because I'd NEVER do it now.

Being confident in your style isn't like riding a bike. It doesn't stick with you forever. It throbs and pulses like fads, and criticizing girls who are overly confident in their apparel is just a cry for attention for yourself.

Dudes who are repulsed by girls who dress like "whores" (as you so deftly called them), are often hiding their own self esteem issues. Has anyone ever told you that it's not Iraq and it's okay to be turned on unexpectedly once in a while? I agree that there are decency boundaries (i.e. nobody should show off their underwear, that includes gangster wannabes, I didn't think anyone did that anymore, but lo and behold I saw it on the way home from work), and people should dress accordingly for their surroundings (i.e. conservative at work, liberal at the beach). But running around in heels and a mini skirt while shopping or walking out in public doesn't deserve criticism.

I think that when people start minding their own business the world'll be a lot better off.

And by the way: Chicks dig guys who are comfortable with openness and who aren't judgmental about apparel or demeanors. 9 times out of 10, Tina Tinyskirt is probably single, and 9 times out of 10, Lindsay Longskirt is probably in a relationship. "Flaunting" is a lot of womens' best ways to advertise that they're ready for romance.

P.S.: Some of you guys seriously don't like a free show when a chick shows a lot of leg or boob in public? Have you checked your sexuality lately? I'm not saying you'd marry the girl, but damn! A free show is a free show! :p
 

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6 to the 0 to the quizzay":3hrhmg5y said:
If I wear a matching jumpsuit motifs, adidas let's say. The shoes match the pants, the pants match the shirt, the shirt matches the jacket, the jacket of course matches the bandana, and the banada matches the hat - all of which match the little bracelet rocked on that left arm - I guess my name is 6 to the 0 to the quizzay, cause apparently clothes make the person and I'm a stereotypical drug dealer dropping beats down under the over pass while selling my home made demo at the local mall for $5.

i fucking love you.

venetian snares????":3hrhmg5y said:
When I was a teenager I was thin and well-curved and I wore whatever I could get away with. Tiny skirts, board shorts, tube tops. It was San Diego, and these things were acceptable, all the girls dressed like that.

Why did I dress skimpy? I didn't have anything to hide. I had immense self esteem and I didn't mind flaunting. Some girls do it to attract boys, but I did it as an affront of sorts.

see this is pretty interesting because i am something of a teenager and i am thin and curvy and pretty attractive imo but i prefer dressing in ridiculously loose, "mannish" clothes (read: i have a 6x black hoodie that i wear fairly regularly).

but yeah folks times are changing. times change a lot. golly, i remember the days when rapscallions would loiter near streetlamps on new york streets on windy days hoping to catch a glimpse of a lady's ankles, and now you see their knickers in the talkies. most people are pretty big sticks in the mud about it; i think it's swell.

it's part of that silly "equal rights" movement. guys have been able to walk around shirtless in knee britches for ages and nobody seems to mind; now the gals are doing the same, only without spilling their tatas out all over the place.

okay i'm putting too much work into that. but yeah guys it's 2007 everybody needs to chill the fuck out and be less socially awkward.
 
I dunno. I don't have anything against the concept that people throw out there, but I'm just talking in statistics. About three fourths of women I end up having the experience of talking to that dress 'whore-ish' (again, read: hyperbole), end up being stupid, drink obsessively much and pretty much live in high school land (which I despise literally more than anything in the world). Now, who knows, maybe that's just here, but when it's that often that it happens, I'm inclined to believe it and not LIVE by it, but expect it.

There's no reason to frown upon having self-esteem, but seriously, for me it's a rare event to see someone dress in a 4 inch skirt and a... I can't even think of a name for a shirt like that, but you know what I mean, it's rare that I meet someone dressing like that that I find myself able to stomach.

Also don't listen to a word TREG says he's a terrible person in every way you can imagine. Actually apply that to me too, I usually encourage/one up him when he starts talking about depraved things.
 
I think that its entirely a matter of opinion. Are you guys aware that only humans decided to wear clothes? thousands of years ago everyone walked round naked. Then people wore clothes to protect from the heat etc, it became custom, then tradition, then law. Now if you walk around naked youll get arrested. Also, pretty much everyone will agree that a 13 year old who has had sex is a slut, not everyone but most, but consider this: nature intended us to have sex before then. The instant that humans are able to have children, nature and evolution intends them to have them. Which involves having sex. Being a 'slut' and 'whore' is a human invention. It's a matter of opinion on whether it is 'right' or 'wrong' to walk round half-naked everywhere, only people have a problem with it.
 
Also, pretty much everyone will agree that a 13 year old who has had sex is a slut

Huh? The age you first have sex doesn't make you a slut. Having sex with 50 people when you're 13 or pulling trains does.
 
Torik;251609 said:
Hmmmm you have a point with the beer statement =) . But I think it is all dating from that moment when things are kinda awkward up to where you either break up or get married.

In a good marriage, you should still go out on dates.

Dating is simply going out for an evening, somewhere that isn't part of your regular routine, and isn't for a special occasion (short of anniversaries.)

If you aren't taking your woman out, or she isn't taking you out, I'd seriously look into what is wrong with your relationship. If neither of you wants to treat the other to a night with the base intention of having fun and empowering your happiness and the strength of your relationship, there is something seriously wrong.
 
Red Dawn;255826":100gdz82 said:
The instant that humans are able to have children, nature and evolution intends them to have them. Which involves having sex. Being a 'slut' and 'whore' is a human invention.

Mmmmmhhh ...... Not necessarily. Menstruation is the body's ability to bear eggs, yes, and technically they can accept sperm and harbor a child. However, the mortality rate is very high in young pregnancies because the body hasn't conditioned itself toward child-rearing yet. It's like riding a bike: You can get on the bike and move the pedals around whenever you want, and technically someone can push you along easily enough. But it's not until you lose the training wheels and can ride on your own that you technically know how to ride the thing. Just because your body is beginning to practice the throes of harboring life, it doesn't mean that it's a good idea to because of a huge number of medical reasons, forget the monetary/community/civilization stuff.

Being a "slut" is arguably an invention of religion, and it can also be attributable to the human nature of "mating for life", ala Lovebirds. People seem to lean toward being "designed" for one partner. It's an emotional thing and it's smart to do hygenically. But the fact that sex feels good leans toward the idea that we're meant to sleep around, or have a harem-based structure (one male/many females). Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we're not in that structure in most societies, but the fact that it's socially more acceptable for a man to womanize than a woman to ("mananize"? lol) lends more support for the whole harem thing.


Also, Andy6000, you're more than welcome to your opinions. And yeah, dressing trampy might lend itself to more of an obnoxious, boistrous, or loud demeanor, since it is such a blatent statement of ego. I wasn't like that, but I certainly knew a fair share who were. I've only been with 3 people in my life (going on 23 and one of 'em's my husband), so I'm kind of an example to the other side of the coin, the "statistic" that proves not all the trampy ones are slutty ones :'P. I was friends with a girl in HS that slept with a different guy every week, but she dressed ultra-conservative. Go figure.


And Prexus: Hell yeah! We just don't call it "dating", we call it "let's go get a bite to eat" or "get in the car, we're seeing a movie" time. :p
 
real estate barrel;255753 said:
it's part of that silly "equal rights" movement. guys have been able to walk around shirtless in knee britches for ages and nobody seems to mind; now the gals are doing the same, only without spilling their tatas out all over the place.

okay i'm putting too much work into that. but yeah guys it's 2007 everybody needs to chill the fuck out and be less socially awkward.
That's so true! We're not living in the medieval times anymore. I'm pretty shocked how many people freak out because of women dressing "slutty".
When a woman feels comfortable with her body, sexuality etc. and she sleeps with many guys, she's a slut, when a man does it he's a "player"!
And dudes who blame girls for teasing guys and having fun are sadly usually intimidated by these strong females, or uncomfortable in their own skin/sexuality.
 
LosAngeles;256463 said:
That's so true! We're not living in the medieval times anymore. I'm pretty shocked how many people freak out because of women dressing "slutty".
When a woman feels comfortable with her body, sexuality etc. and she sleeps with many guys, she's a slut, when a man does it he's a "player"!
And dudes who blame girls for teasing guys and having fun are sadly usually intimidated by these strong females, or uncomfortable in their own skin/sexuality.

To me, when a man dresses in 'manslut' clothes (a tanktop, silk boxers [I can tell because of the next one], and track pants down to his knees, along with some $200 pumas) and sleeps with many women, he's a 'retard'. Not a player. Or maybe it's just that player is a bad term? I dunno, I have no respect for those people at all, regardless of gender. But clothes don't exactly give away a person's immediate sexual activity, they just hint at it sometimes. Or not!
 
You are right, clothes are not indicating your actions, but as you said yourself, they make the first impression. And thus decide whether you feel certain sympathy or not. But with the image that's provided one generally fells antipathy.
Andy6000;255762 said:
About three fourths of women I end up having the experience of talking to that dress 'whore-ish' (again, read: hyperbole), end up being stupid, drink obsessively much and pretty much live in high school land
It's just the same with people dressing goth, punk or hip hop, because they earn prejudices because of the way they dress(But that has already been said).
In the end it's just a "fashion style" of todays over-sexed society.
 
I can't think of any real good reason why people should frown upon slutty or whorish behavior. It's not like they are hurting you. And if you find it offensive, that's your problem not theirs.

Personally I love it when girls (who have the body for it) wear miniskirts.
 
Prexus;255983 said:
In a good marriage, you should still go out on dates.

Dating is simply going out for an evening, somewhere that isn't part of your regular routine, and isn't for a special occasion (short of anniversaries.)

If you aren't taking your woman out, or she isn't taking you out, I'd seriously look into what is wrong with your relationship. If neither of you wants to treat the other to a night with the base intention of having fun and empowering your happiness and the strength of your relationship, there is something seriously wrong.

I agree with you on this 100%.
Me and my girlfriend, we are still together after 5 months now, working on 6, would simply consider going to one or the others house a date. Wanting to see your mate is as much dating as going out to see a movie with her/him on a friday night. Calling could be considered dating, you both have or atleast one of you has the intention of attracting the attention of the other for the time being, even if it is to talk.

Love is very tricky, lots of people don't know everything there is to it, I know I don't, yet I like being in love anyways. I highly doubt anyone will formulate an idea that explains love all together.

On subject, being a "slut" "whore" is the other person's opinion... opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and everyone uses it. Just cause the way you dress doesn't classify you as something you aren't. Even people who have sex with 50 different people aren't them, I would call them stupid, immature, and to young... But any other name wouldn't suit them, you don't know them personally, so you shouldn't have any right to judge them just cause of their actions or the way they dress.
 
Prexus;255983 said:
In a good marriage, you should still go out on dates.

Dating is simply going out for an evening, somewhere that isn't part of your regular routine, and isn't for a special occasion (short of anniversaries.)

If you aren't taking your woman out, or she isn't taking you out, I'd seriously look into what is wrong with your relationship. If neither of you wants to treat the other to a night with the base intention of having fun and empowering your happiness and the strength of your relationship, there is something seriously wrong.

See, it was a difference in terms from what I am used to, not actual activities. I'd still go out out places with them, but I call that going out places, not dating.
 
On subject, being a "slut" "whore" is the other person's opinion... opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and everyone uses it

Uh no, it's like a job description.

Slut = sleeps around a lot.
Whore = sleeps with people for $ or other things.

There's nothing wrong with either of them to many people. I'm sure plenty would rather be called those than divorce lawyers or taxmen (eww). Hell most teenage girls these days call all their friends sluts & whores, even if they haven't even kissed a guy.
 
It really doesn't matter how someone dresses that makes them a slut. Dressing down is simply a way some women feels make them feel the most attractive- if we're judging sluttiness based on wearing clothing that is supposed to get across the "sexy" look the most, quantity really isn't important. An ex of mine had a knee length overcoat that she even came to call her slutty one- simply because it looked fucking brilliant, in some odd way.
 
An ex I had, had a similar sounding coat. Was somewhat brown and looked tarnish, she called her slutty coat.
And the fuck-me-boots she wore all the time with them.
By definition by some posts, guess she'd be a slut. A whore if the heels were clear I guess... heh.
 

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