Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth
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Mega Flare
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well its out in Japan and its coming to america on July 18th. And i think this is just a remake of the orignial. And if didnt know its only For PSP
It's not a remake, it's a port with additional features like CG cinematics instead of the crappy, boring sprite based ones from the original. There's also some remixed songs; other than that, it's pretty much the same game.
Still, Valkyrie Profile was a limited release game back in Square's "ORIGINAL GAMES" hayday; you know, when they made GOLD games like Einhander, Brave Fencer Mushashi, Vagrant Story, and Parasite Eve. This was back when Square was good; before they decided to WHORE OUT Final Fantasy 7 and throw gobs of money at tri-ace to produce their same old garbage like Star Ocean 3, Radiata Stories, Rogue Galaxies, and TRUSTY BELL: LETS PISS ON CHOPIN'S GRAVE.
Anyways, Valkyrie was a game that broke almost every rpg cliche; for one, you played as a fucking GOD and if you didn't start on hard mode you started out at level 25 or so. You could fly around the planet and pretty much visit every location from the beginning (although you had a hidden time limit of things you could do in a single "chapter" of the story so it wasn't completely open ended). The game was a sidescrolling rpg with lucious 3D backgrounds and GORGEOUS 2D sprites (we're talking massive Guilty Gear style sprites here). The battle system was fast paced, well balanced, and incredibly flashy and the combination of rpg elements with platform puzzle solving in dungeons was ingenous.
Despite being a sidescrolling rpg, the game was about 40 hours long and contained an incredible amount of storyline and written dialog. Thankfully, UMD's hold 4x more storage than cd's so they completely redid the cinemas in CG and added in voice acting so the story isn't told in such a dull way.
Seriously, BUY THIS GAME. Valkyrie Profile was one of Square's TOP GAMES but Square didn't put a lot of advertising behind it because it wasn't a LOL FINAL FANTASY game. You can find the ps1 version for an insane price on the internet (usually $80-100 for the COMPLETE package) so nab the PSP version while you can because I doubt it'll be whored around like Final Fantasy 7. You won't be disappointed; it was one of Square's best original games; third in line with Xenogears and Vagrant Story in my opinion.
Still, Valkyrie Profile was a limited release game back in Square's "ORIGINAL GAMES" hayday; you know, when they made GOLD games like Einhander, Brave Fencer Mushashi, Vagrant Story, and Parasite Eve. This was back when Square was good; before they decided to WHORE OUT Final Fantasy 7 and throw gobs of money at tri-ace to produce their same old garbage like Star Ocean 3, Radiata Stories, Rogue Galaxies, and TRUSTY BELL: LETS PISS ON CHOPIN'S GRAVE.
Anyways, Valkyrie was a game that broke almost every rpg cliche; for one, you played as a fucking GOD and if you didn't start on hard mode you started out at level 25 or so. You could fly around the planet and pretty much visit every location from the beginning (although you had a hidden time limit of things you could do in a single "chapter" of the story so it wasn't completely open ended). The game was a sidescrolling rpg with lucious 3D backgrounds and GORGEOUS 2D sprites (we're talking massive Guilty Gear style sprites here). The battle system was fast paced, well balanced, and incredibly flashy and the combination of rpg elements with platform puzzle solving in dungeons was ingenous.
Despite being a sidescrolling rpg, the game was about 40 hours long and contained an incredible amount of storyline and written dialog. Thankfully, UMD's hold 4x more storage than cd's so they completely redid the cinemas in CG and added in voice acting so the story isn't told in such a dull way.
Seriously, BUY THIS GAME. Valkyrie Profile was one of Square's TOP GAMES but Square didn't put a lot of advertising behind it because it wasn't a LOL FINAL FANTASY game. You can find the ps1 version for an insane price on the internet (usually $80-100 for the COMPLETE package) so nab the PSP version while you can because I doubt it'll be whored around like Final Fantasy 7. You won't be disappointed; it was one of Square's best original games; third in line with Xenogears and Vagrant Story in my opinion.
I think I'll take your word for this Marcus. Altho, I strongly disagree with your opinion of Final Fantasy 7 (one of my top favorites). But saying Brave Fencer Musashi and Vagrant Story pushed the envelope ^^.
Now I seriously can't wait for this game to come out, and comes out later this month for me -_- (July 18th). But the game looks beautiful and I want my own battle system to match (or at least come close to VPs).
PS: two more things. what exactly do you mean Whored Out? And What do you think of VP: Silmeria?
Now I seriously can't wait for this game to come out, and comes out later this month for me -_- (July 18th). But the game looks beautiful and I want my own battle system to match (or at least come close to VPs).
PS: two more things. what exactly do you mean Whored Out? And What do you think of VP: Silmeria?
Mega Flare
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Did you say Star Ocean 3 is bad? Come on thats like the best Game Square made since Final Fantasy Tactics Advance!
Star Ocean 3 was good, but it wasn't great like the originals (FINAL FANTASY 7 Marcus ^^, Brave Fencer Musashi, Chrono Cross, etc.) I mean it had its moments...
Me personally, I think Square fell by joining with Enix. The Dragon Quest series was never good, so Square sympathetically joins with Squaresoft, then both of them go downstream.
I hope FFXII was produced by the Squaresoft side :P.
Me personally, I think Square fell by joining with Enix. The Dragon Quest series was never good, so Square sympathetically joins with Squaresoft, then both of them go downstream.
I hope FFXII was produced by the Squaresoft side :P.
Mega Flare
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FFXII looks good same with FFXIII
I think we already established our massive differences in RPGs. I mean, you LIKE Legend of Heroes over PoPoLoCrois... my mind just can't fathom that.Mega Flare said:
Don't get me wrong, Final Fantasy 7 was a great game but it's being advertised like it's the second coming of christ. People are carving runes in their skin and doing funky dances over a possible PS3 remake and guys are losing sleep over FF7 supplements and I'm just sitting here thinking "My God... it was a good game but nothing I'd sacrifice my first born son for!"
After FF7 Square started spitting out all of these gold games but when the PS2 came out they just... stopped. I guess they find it more profitable to rely on Level 5 and Tri-Ace than actually come up with their own good games.
Mega Flare
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Hey the Legend of Heroes had a good story. And Popolicrios i hear takes a while to load up a battle
Yea, Level 5 works in the graphical department while Tri-Ace does the gameplay... which is why all of their games look and play the same.
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NO!!! Fuck Level 5 and Tri-Ace (except for the Valkyrie Profile part)!! Is that why Radiata Stories and Star Ocean play the same?!?! That's horrible!! All I know is no Enix person should touch the Final Fantasy series cuz they'll stein its perfection!!
@DopplegangerSora: Final Fantasy 10 was an excellent game, man.
@DopplegangerSora: Final Fantasy 10 was an excellent game, man.
FFX only had 2 good things about it. Music, and Graphics. That's it. Character-wise, "Tightass" was yappy and annoying. Yuna your stereotypical Japanese Damsel in Distress. Lulu was your regular bitch with big boobs but ain't givin it to nobody (Even though she gets banged by Wakka in X-2.). Auron was ALLRIGHT, Rikku was all...."YAY YAY PEPPY PEPPY WHOOPS I TRIPPED!". Wakka was cool only for his Jamacian accent and weird hairstyle,and Kimahri=boring. Gameplay wise, it was basically RPGs for toddlers. Too easy to become overpowered, and knowing who goes when exactly is like training wheels. Also, the lack of a true overworld is crippling.
Also, if your saying the people at Tri-Ace and LEvel 5 will "ruin" FF, then you have issues. I love the graphics they make, and the gameplay isn't half-bad...AND, unlike Square, they LEARN from their mistakes. (i.e:The vast improvement of Dark Cloud 2 over Dark Cloud 1)
Also, if your saying the people at Tri-Ace and LEvel 5 will "ruin" FF, then you have issues. I love the graphics they make, and the gameplay isn't half-bad...AND, unlike Square, they LEARN from their mistakes. (i.e:The vast improvement of Dark Cloud 2 over Dark Cloud 1)
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Get the fuck outta here. I mean I agree with the FF characters, but saying that I have issues for thinking Enix will ruin the FF series says something about YOU. And then to bring up Dark Cloud in a series makes it even worse, since it has the rep of being the worst RPG ever. Ever since the merge almost all the games they've made (excluding Kingdom Hearts 2) have fuckin SUCKED!!! I just pray VP: Lenneth isn't like that. Radiata Stories, Drakengard 1 & 2, Star Ocean (not as much), and Dragon Quest VIII are embarassments to the RPG genre. Not one of those games has played like any FF series game nor left the same feeling as the FF series or the hits I stated above. Enix was a failure and still is. Hopefully the geniuses of Squaresoft are stil there to keep it real.
Dark Cloud is pretty far from having a reputation for being the worst. The Georama system was awsome, and what rocked was that in the 1st one, the characters fought just because IT WAS THE RIGHT THING. Not because they have some dark past with the foe or some "chosen destiny". They just wanted to save the world. No dark pasts, nuthin. Pure, straight, GOOD GUYS. Not this whole anti-hero shtick (Yes I said shtick, stfu.). And then you got the second one. Not only did they improve the Georama system and the battle system, they added cell-shaded graphics, and refined the system down to only 2 characters. AND they also fought for good just cause they wanted to, and they had a nice little plot twist in there to add some variety. Also, Enix has released a few underrated gems that are great (Mischief Makers comes to mind). Square has a lot of super hyped games that are just rehashes to the battle system with new characters and enviroments, along with minor graphic updates. The only thing they've done good lately is the battle system of FF12, which FINALLY broke the mold of a traditional FF game. Of course, FF7 fanboys will weep, saying "This sucks, it's so different from FF7". Also, Dragon Quest pwns FF, 'nuff said.
okay, that last statement made was outta wack, man. Dragon Quest needs to go fall in a tub of green doo-doo. I mean, c'mon. any game that has monsters called dingaling and... some other baby name clearly is fuckin retarded. The FF series versus the Dragon Quest series is a blowout (FF leadin) 'nuff said.
And the whole gameplay of Dark Cloud is just ridiculous. Its a mild rip off of Legend of Zelda. And stop usin the word "fanboy", it sounds fruity.
And doing the RIGHT THING makes a character boring. Altho, the dark-pasted heroes is a bit clichéd it beats all around good guys any day.
I can't believe you started arguing about this. Enix fails :thumbsdown:. And the topic is about Valkyrie Profile, so I'm done.
And the whole gameplay of Dark Cloud is just ridiculous. Its a mild rip off of Legend of Zelda. And stop usin the word "fanboy", it sounds fruity.
And doing the RIGHT THING makes a character boring. Altho, the dark-pasted heroes is a bit clichéd it beats all around good guys any day.
I can't believe you started arguing about this. Enix fails :thumbsdown:. And the topic is about Valkyrie Profile, so I'm done.
I'm taking a wild stab in the dark, but you think Cloud and Sephiroth are the coolest characters ever...right?
Btw, when you said
Anyways, I have a question about this game...by side scrolling, do you mean in a Tales of Phantasia style, or something different?
Btw, when you said
Not only did you butcher the english language, you called FF "perfect". By no means is ANY Final Fantasy perfect (A few of the SNES ones may come close, but that's it.). Also, according to your logic here...
Not only is any game that uses the action button to attack a Zelda clone, but it's IMPOSSIBLE for there to be something that has anything different from Zelda if you attack in real time with one button (That includes KH). Zelda is rockin, don't get me wrong, but your attitude on this manner is quite frankly one-sided, and "fanboyish". But I agree that this is about VP, so I'll stop.
Anyways, I have a question about this game...by side scrolling, do you mean in a Tales of Phantasia style, or something different?
Oh ok it makes sense now. You're an idiot. OK then. Every none-tri ace japanese RPG plays the same too, so what? No shit the products of a dev team look and play similiarly, that's true of every team that would concentrate all its effort in a single genre. Its not a negative, its just a fact of dev teams. But then, you think FF is perfect so this isnt a surprise. You like to watch games happen, not play them, that's fine, a lot of people from your generation are like that. Just press 'a', mate, you'll trigger a 100 hit combo that YOU DID ALL BY YOURSELF YAY.Aran said: