Suicide, the easy way out?

[sixtyandaquarter]

Okay... just to be a prick...
Red Dawn, you are severely burnt. Pain killers numb the pain, but only so much. They do greatly for you, but you are still - let's say achy. They have removed 7 of the digits on your hands, you have only but half a leg. You are half blind, and your throat is so damaged, you would drown if you were to take a sip of water. This is your life for several months. The pain will go away, you are told, but will become nothing but numbness. You will never reproduce, if you haven't already, a child. You can never dance again. Your nerves are shot, and it is even a miracle you are able to still twitch of your own accord. This is your life for the next several years, until your organs - damaged as they are - finally give. Play your PS3 and jack off now.

Yeah - true, that was me being an idiot - and no I'm not trying to argue. But it was a point hidden there, maybe a little more obvious than a Hidden Mickey.

I've put down two dogs. At least, I haven't, but my family has when I was younger. One had cancer, a blood cancer. Poor guy had to be held up so he wouldn't wet himself outside, could barely walk. Seizures. He was going to die anyway, a very painful death. The other, almost as bad - not mostly old age stuff.

I do believe in mercy killings. I'm actually one of maybe 5 people who don't believe Dr. Kavorkian's ideas (no, not the acts) was completely wrong. To me, a DNR is the same as a suicide not, in some cases. Not all, but some.

I still, by my first post, don't think that suicide is an "easy way out" given how some people actually go threw with it, and the effort and strain that they must go threw to achieve their goals. Most people agonize over the simple "should I?" let alone the "will I?" thoughts, which can last years -decades. Especially if you were to ever see threw someone else's eyes, you'd be surprised by how things could look - you never know. Some people who've committed suicide let it be known quite explicitly that what they were doing was for the good of others in some way, and was not in a form of self hate/depression - though it probably was that and a mix of denial, still the thought wasn't "emo" as some have called it.

 

[candle]

You know, I completely agree with you, sixty. My family also put down a sixteen year old dog almost a decade ago (and for those that don't know, that is VERY old for a dog. most don't live past eleven or twelve), and we're thinking of putting down our current dog, who is also getting up there age wise.

 

[Grandor]

Yeah, I view it as almost cruel to keep a suffering person living. That's almost torture so to speak.

1.
a. Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.
b. An instrument or a method for inflicting such pain.
2. Excruciating physical or mental pain; agony: the torture of waiting in suspense.
3. Something causing severe pain or anguish.
tr.v. tor?tured, tor?tur?ing, tor?tures
1. To subject (a person or an animal) to torture.
2. To bring great physical or mental pain upon (another). See Synonyms at afflict.

See number 2 in the second definition. To bring great physical or mental pain on another. That's all you're doing if you don't administer a mercy killing on somebody who needs it. I support mercy killings, but suicide is entirely up to the person.

 

[Red Dawn]

@Sixty
True... I suppose it depends whats wrong with you. If youre incapable of doing all the stuff in my last post, then i stand by that. But if you cant, i suppose i would want to die.

 

[bradleydfc]

Life is a gift, and so don't waste it.
Plain as.
Suicide is as bad as murder, when you murder someone you are taking their life, when you commit suicide, you take someones life.

Whether it be yours reguardless.

 

[Reives]

Let's say life is a gift basket.

You've taken all the goodies from the basket already, the sweet candies and fruits or whatnot.

Then, you look back at it. What's left is a rotten apple with a worm crawling inside. Are you going to eat that rotten apple and the worm, too?

That's my view on the subject. :p

 

[PeteD2S]

@Reives
Solution: Get your ass off the chair and go get more fruit from the trees. Nothing happens by magic, you gotta work your life.

 

[Red Dawn]

@Reives
Solution: Get your ass off the chair and go get more fruit from the trees. Nothing happens by magic, you gotta work your life.

Nice.

 

[Vinderex]

Suicide is something that I doubt I will ever understand. I don't know why anyone other than an insane person would want to kill themselves.

 

[Reives]

@Reives
Solution: Get your ass off the chair and go get more fruit from the trees. Nothing happens by magic, you gotta work your life.

Heh.

Could you tell me how to get "get my ass off the chair" when you are lying in bed with late-stage cancer and struggling to even breath?

A family friend of mine is in that situation right now. He doesn't want to suffer anymore over an incurable disease at the late stages. I respect that. If you can look straight into his face and tell him a way to "get his ass off the chair and get some more fruits", please, share your secrets.


When the term suicide is being tossed around, it's too easy to assume it to be referring to some emo kid cutting his wrist for attention.

Don't assume.

Not everything's one dimensional, I'd appreciate it if you can remember that. Mm'kay?

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

Suicide is something that I doubt I will ever understand. I don't know why anyone other than an insane person would want to kill themselves.

Hi nice to meet you, I'm apparently an insane person.

Odd thing is I've yet to meet someone whose my age who hasn't at least once thought about it in their younger years, or even at today.

Could you tell me how to get "get my ass off the chair" when you are lying in bed with late-stage cancer and struggling to even breath?

Agree.
Like I said before, it's very easy to think of suicide when your life is ending already. Go threw cancer, aids, etc... have third degree burns that make it so you have but 1 leg, and maybe half your fingers and no sight, etc... and chances are the thought will cross your mind.
If it doesn't, damn... your better stuff than I.

 

[PeteD2S]

Heh.

Could you tell me how to get "get my ass off the chair" when you are lying in bed with late-stage cancer and struggling to even breath?

A family friend of mine is in that situation right now. He doesn't want to suffer anymore over an incurable disease at the late stages. I respect that. If you can look straight into his face and tell him a way to "get his ass off the chair and get some more fruits", please, share your secrets.


When the term suicide is being tossed around, it's too easy to assume it to be referring to some emo kid cutting his wrist for attention.

Don't assume.

Not everything's one dimensional, I'd appreciate it if you can remember that. Mm'kay?

Hey, I though you were referring to the emo ppl situation. Don't be offended :-/

Hi nice to meet you, I'm apparently an insane person.

Odd thing is I've yet to meet someone whose my age who hasn't at least once thought about it in their younger years, or even at today.

You're right, I have thought about it. I always snapped out of it though, fortunately.

 

[Reives]

Hey, I though you were referring to the emo ppl situation. Don't be offended :-/

So you still assumed to include only the area of the topic that supported your argument, in my reply that was aimed at the other hand. I was replying at the general topic of suicide, which include the area of euthanasia. Your response to me came with the false assumption to excluded it, and at the same time (although most likely non-intentionally) tinted with a negative tone at my statement in a personal way.

Anyhow, I know what you mean, and obviously agree with you on what you were referring to.
I apologize for having a somewhat aggressive tone there; I just found it such a misinterpretation offensive (the reply itself, not you personally).