Religion, what do you think?

[Cruelty]

buddhism is a religion. the problem lies in nearly all of the other religions being so similar. When something isn't just the same set of rules and ideas we call shenanigans! there is philosophical buddhism which largely ignores the theology, but that's mostly modern-age buddhists who maybe don't have the self-discipline/patience for the whole thing :P

it's saying quite a lot about a religion when it's so sensible, and rational that it's being called a philosophy :boo:

 

[Brimstone-x]

As a Catholic, I must say, As a child, it has highly influenced my life. It has taught me to be a better person when I was a kid. Nowadays, meh, it kinda doesn't influence me at all, by this point, I'll just keep God there as something to turn to if anything goes wrong, I believe in him, but...I don't want to get too in depth with his...demands, too lazy. Mostly I just use religion nowadays to argue with my friends and whatnot. Since most of my friends are athiest or agnostic.

 

[nikki]

As a Catholic, I must say, As a child, it has highly influenced my life. It has taught me to be a better person when I was a kid. Nowadays, meh, it kinda doesn't influence me at all, by this point, I'll just keep God there as something to turn to if anything goes wrong, I believe in him, but...I don't want to get too in depth with his...demands, too lazy. Mostly I just use religion nowadays to argue with my friends and whatnot. Since most of my friends are athiest or agnostic.

Its probably the catholic church to blame for the anti christian sentiment so prevelant today. I wont bother to point out all the things they have done wrong, everyone knows already. They are however NOT the only church.

As for scientific explinations about creation and life. its funny, they all boil down to a mysterious and unexplainable event, some sort of power. Big Bang: a tiny point of energy suddenly expanded to create all we know. As if that explains ANYTHING! Origin of life: base materials in a primordial soup combined due to an unknown energy source to create life. Again, that leaves the door wide open for God to walk in.

 

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[nikki]

What? No they don't, it's not mysterious and it is explainable, there has been proof for quite some time.

You know that door that you thought was wide open for God? It just got slammed shut.

Next time you try to counter an opinion, try something more persuasive than "nu-uh! pwnd!"

Next time you try to counter a counter opinion try to actually contributing to the debate at hand. Thanks. -Surmuck

With overuse of counter included!

 

[:: TaG ::]

This is just a random question I'm throwing into this conversation.

Is Scientology considered a religion? I live in New Zealand so American cults(?) aren't really largely recognized.

 

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[Dr. Funk]

As for scientific explinations about creation and life. its funny, they all boil down to a mysterious and unexplainable event, some sort of power. Big Bang: a tiny point of energy suddenly expanded to create all we know. As if that explains ANYTHING! Origin of life: base materials in a primordial soup combined due to an unknown energy source to create life. Again, that leaves the door wide open for God to walk in.

The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory. It's not meant to be some glorious explanation to why we are here. Humans simply do not know how we got here or why, we are just here. In fact I believe that it is completely impossible to know how or why we got here.

 

[Ellie]

We can't possibly know how we were created with current technology. All the same, trying to find out is a damn lot better than making up something to believe. I would much rather we worked out how we were made than end up believing something because everyone else does, even if it turns out we were made by a big old guy called god.

Its probably the catholic church to blame for the anti christian sentiment so prevelant today. I wont bother to point out all the things they have done wrong, everyone knows already. They are however NOT the only church.

Most modern day churches branched off from the Catholic Church, i.e. they share the same roots.

I haven't really seen anti-christian sentiment any more so than there is anti-muslim sentiment, anti-semitic sentiment, or anti-scientologistic sentiment; or even anti-atheist sentiment.

 

[Cruelty]

What? No they don't, it's not mysterious and it is explainable, there has been proof for quite some time.

You know that door that you thought was wide open for God? It just got slammed shut.

not really. it's not like just because the big bang happened - suddenly god couldn't have had anything to do with it. pretty much all of the scientific explanations for how this this and that happened which supposedly disprove god were quite possibly planned by god.

 

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[nikki]

Hi, if you had read my post properly you would have noticed that I said "there has been proof for quite some time", it is not my job to educate people as I am not a teacher, it is up to the individual to search for the said proof themselves.

Also you would have noticed that I never said "nu-uh! pwnd!" because I am not a retard and I type correctly. And people will notice that your usergroup is "shit poster" and there is a reason for that, and I think everyone can gather by the level of your posts that it is warranted. Next time you reply to posts with shit like that look up who you are talking to before using lame words such as "nu-uh! pwnd!".

I was paraphrasing. No you didnt specifically say "nu-uh! pwnd!" but you may as well have.

"it's not mysterious and it is explainable, there has been proof for quite some time." = nu-uh!

"that door that you thought was wide open for God? It just got slammed shut." = pwnd!

Proof of what exactly? The big bang? Well, I wouldnt call an untested, unprovable theory proof of anything. Some radio waves and other crap scientists have picked up from space supposedly "proving" the universe is expanding really proves nothing, except some of them will use whatever they can find to back up their beloved theory. Besides, Im not even arguing against the notion that there might have been a big bang. Im saying that not you, me or anyone else on earth is ever going to know if, how and WHY it happened. "just because." isnt a good enough explanation.

Ill just never understand why some people are so dead set against the mere notion that there might be some intelligence behind it. I guess these people have a deep rooted bias against any form of religion but they are missing the point. It doesnt have to be the bible god, or the koran god etc... The idea that time and space and well...everything just popped out of nowhere for no reason at all sounds really freaking stupid to me.

And yeah, Ive been labeled "shitposter" but that has nothing to do with my personal quality. It was just a spur of the moment idea one of those freakish moderators of this forum decided would be funny.

 

[Jason]

Well technically, I'm a Christian cause, well obviously... I was christened, however, I've never been to church except weddings etc. and to be honest I'm athiest now, cause I think science can prove alot more than religion on how the world was created. Maybe I should rephrase that as we don't know as of yet;

I think the scientific theories of how the earth was created sound more realistic and more likely to happen than some otherbeing, this big man/woman/object/it? who created us.

I also think that (No offense religionees, if thats a word ?) religion was made to stop Anarchism, cause if you think about it, Anarchists have no rules, they think "Fuck it" although I'm guessing somewhere down the line, it got out of hand, and because the laws weren't really thought out too well back in ye olde days, some people (I'm not sure who these could be) wrote out the ten commandments, cause if you think about it, we go by those commandments even today, they're the basic rules in living (Don't steal, don't commit adultery etc.), so just think where we'd be without those, I myself don't really care what the world would be like without them, but it'd surely be a change to what we have now.

But yeah, thats just what I think, sure people are gonna disagree, some might even agree, but meh.

Oh and just a question,

For those of you who do believe in God etc.
Do you think we're the only creations he made ? Or do you think he made tons of solar systems and universes etc. ?

 

[FallaciaSonata]

I have too much to say on this topic, and I'm not here to insult people or start an argument, or anything like that. I'm here for RMXP related material.

But after reading all that....I am compelled to say *something*. So I will attempt to comment on jbrist's post and reveal something about my own beliefs, possibly.

I think the scientific theories of how the earth was created sound more realistic and more likely to happen than some otherbeing, this big man/woman/object/it? who created us.

For this one....be specific on your theory. Anyone who researches with true science will quickly discover that Creation, (the Christian belief) has the most "scientific" evidence. Sure, you can't prove Creation completely. But you can't prove the evolutionist theory at all.

Oh and just a question,

For those of you who do believe in God etc.
Do you think we're the only creations he made ? Or do you think he made tons of solar systems and universes etc. ?

As for this one, if you "believe in God", then by definition you believe in the Bible. This is written in the Gospel of John, chapter 1.

Now, because you believe in the Bible, and the Bible does not contradict itself, then you know that God is seeking a bride. The bride is the church, and there is only one bride, so that must mean there is only one church. The church consists of his people, which are humans.

So....from that, you understand that in order for there to be other universes and other humans and the like, then God must have more than one bride available. And since the Bible is God, and God is truth....well, hopefully you see my point.

Now, I'm going to end my post because I could go on for HOURS on this topic. If you have any questions about anything like this and just want my two cents, feel free to contact me through the e-mail and I'll get with you on whatever you want to talk about.

I'm too lazy to argue with people, so don't feel as if I'm "challenging" you to ask me questions.

Mm....I smell food.......I'm going downstairs now. ; )

 

[Kingcobrasaurus]

personally, i've never had a religion. But when I was 10 years old i believed in the greek gods and the hydra and everything. lol.

 

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[Incognitus]

I have too much to say on this topic, and I'm not here to insult people or start an argument, or anything like that. I'm here for RMXP related material.

But after reading all that....I am compelled to say *something*. So I will attempt to comment on jbrist's post and reveal something about my own beliefs, possibly.

I think the scientific theories of how the earth was created sound more realistic and more likely to happen than some otherbeing, this big man/woman/object/it? who created us.

For this one....be specific on your theory. Anyone who researches with true science will quickly discover that Creation, (the Christian belief) has the most "scientific" evidence. Sure, you can't prove Creation completely. But you can't prove the evolutionist theory at all.

I could so with a laugh, and so, at the risk of turning this into another one of those threads...

Let's trade "true science"! You better go first - I imagine it will take me a bit longer to gather all our pruths.

 

[Stardust]

As some of you know, I prefer to have my own ideas. I don't follow one certain religion, and I honestly think it's stupid of someone to believe something they heard from a book. I'm not going to get into my personal beliefs because A) it would take too long to explain and B) they're constantly changing, as they should.

Religion had good intentions, and it united us in the worst of times. But now, I believe religion is holding us back. Not just because of what it involves, but because it doesn't change. It hasn't changed for a long time, and it's trying desperately to keep us from moving forward. For example, it is holding back the acceptance of people who are homosexual.

I personally don't care what you believe. If you're an avid anything just because you were told to believe it, I have to say you're gullible. That includes science, by the way (in my opinion, science is a religion when it ventures into things we can't really prove). If you have reasons for believing something, that's cool, but I hate when people make themselves pawns in the game of politics. Politics that they should NOT be involved in. Separation of church and state is a great concept, but it's seldom followed because we are naturally biased based on our beliefs.

 

[nikki]

Because some people aren't gullible.

Its gullible to take the word of some scientist's theory as "gospel" as well. You dont know how everything was created, you cant possibly know. So get off your high horse and accept that.

 

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