PSP Breakthrough (ps1 emulation, custom firmware, etc.)
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Mega Flare
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I bought my PSP to play the games that are out for it. Not to play homebrew games.
Um....ok? I'd love to know -why- 'I be wrong', ya know...since what I stated is, according to US and Canadian Copyright Laws, legal (Since it's for private, personal use, and not to be distributed in any other form or medium). No matter what an EULA says (Some contradict local copyright laws...lol) as long as you use your own resources to Rip the item in question (Much like taking music off a CD or Cassette) and do NOT distribute it, it is perfectly legal.
And why would MF be your fave member of the day, for owning 16 PSP games and refusing to do any homebrew? XD
And why would MF be your fave member of the day, for owning 16 PSP games and refusing to do any homebrew? XD
I could spend hours showing you excruciatingly extensive legal texts about why you're wrong, and you would likely still disagree for whatever reasoning. It doesn't matter either way, you would still be doing it, however I did want to reply stating your misinformation. Should you wish to educate yourself further in this matter, there are resources available online for you to do so.Sketch said:
I am using "you" as a person in general in this response to your message and it should not be taken as an opinion or reference about your character and any moral misgivings.
While that brought a slight smile to my face (I know many people involved in developing these games people choose to pirate/port), it is not a good enough reason to award someone the extremely desirable GFMotD. MegaFlare is a very respected member of this forum and I felt it was his time to be distinguished with this special award.
I don't get it. with homebrew you can play PSP games without paying $40 for them. you can try them out and then buy the ones you really like. I do that, I'm not risking my money for a game I may dislike. When I really like a game, I buy it, to support those programmers, developers, etc.
as for the PSX thing, that's amazing. Portable Final Fantasy 7, Breath of Fire IV, Suikoden, Suikoden II, Final Fantasy 8, Final Fantasy 9, Chrono Cross, etc. etc. would you rather do it the Sony way? with a PS3 n stuff. would you pay for a game you own on PSX again? are you up for the wait till sony releases more psx titles? to hell with that.
SNES, GBA, Genesis, etc. are also nice additions, and so is the homebrew games, aps, etc.
IMO, the homebrew way is just way better, there's nothing the normal way homebrew way can't do and there's LOTS of things the normal way can't do that homebrew way does.
as for the PSX thing, that's amazing. Portable Final Fantasy 7, Breath of Fire IV, Suikoden, Suikoden II, Final Fantasy 8, Final Fantasy 9, Chrono Cross, etc. etc. would you rather do it the Sony way? with a PS3 n stuff. would you pay for a game you own on PSX again? are you up for the wait till sony releases more psx titles? to hell with that.
SNES, GBA, Genesis, etc. are also nice additions, and so is the homebrew games, aps, etc.
IMO, the homebrew way is just way better, there's nothing the normal way homebrew way can't do and there's LOTS of things the normal way can't do that homebrew way does.
Goomba;125460 said:
And as I stated, those 'excruciatingly extensive legal texts' often contradict local and state (For the US), and in rare cases even federal laws regarding the same subject. Now, I can show -you- many well documented legal items that show why you'd be wrong as well, but then it would indeed get into a 'winner-less argument'. All I know is that it is the same principle as any work you legally own. I mean, is ripping the music from a CD onto your computer in MP3 format just as illegal, even though the CD itself has warnings and lables stating 'you may not copy this music in any form'? Would copying by hand a few lines from a book you own be considered the same? Or printing out a PDF file of an eBook you own? Like I said, it boils down to local, state and Federal laws trumping the EULA's of many of these items. If you use your own resources, and your own, legally obtained copy, then it is -perfectly legal-. But the -second- you distribute it, or use it for anything other than personal use, then it becomes illegal.
Goomba;125460 said:
I don't pirate or port UMD games, I purchase them, as I do any game. I mean, you should look at my personal library...I own over 200 games for the PC, PSX, PSP, PS2, XBox, 360, GC, Sega DC, and DS. I am fully against software piracy in any form, and while the ability of the PSP homebrew scene is largely over shadowed by such acts, there is a strong core of people who are firmly against it, and see it as a way of fully unlocking the PSP's potential.
Goomba;125460 said:
I could show you excrutiatingly long winded subtexts detailing why your post is completely wrong and why you have absolutely no idea about what you're talking about but you would still be likely to disagree because you don't have any claims against back-ups other than "Lol ur wrong, mate!" It doesn't matter either way because you'll still be against it because you aren't educated in the matter for it and there are resources online stating how legal it is as well as commercial products allowing it [by "it" I mean backing up material you already own].
And I am using "you" to mean YOU as in the person that typed the quoted post and it should most definitely be taken as an opinion or reference about your character and moral misgivings because you write crap without actually saying crap.
Oh hey, guess what?
Everyone who owns a music cd and stores it in iTunes is violating a copyright law because backing up your own cd's is illegal according to Goomba.
LOGIC
And you deserve the "Puts the Most-Words-Into-People's-Mouth" award. Nobody in this topic has said anything about pirating game software. I buy all of my PSP games; I assume Sketch buys all of his. I legally own every PSX game I put on my PSP. I assume Sketch legally owns all of his PSX games he puts on his PSP.
But man, I guess playing games we own is completely and totally against the law. My name is Justen Brown, I live in Bremerton, Washington, and I'm in the Navy; please report me to the FBI if you don't mind. I'd give you my social security number but you seem like such a morally upstanding guy you'd might go so far as to arrest me yourself and I'd hate to put you out of your way like that.
Well guess what, Mega Flare? Sony thinks otherwise. They created the PSX emulator; this is just a hack that lets you do it without a PS3 which was a stupid move on Sony's part in the very beginning. These aren't homebrew games, they're licensed playstation games. I assume if you were alive and a teenager in the mid 90s you might have some lying around; well did you know you can use a publicly available and totally legal program such as Alchohol 120% to rip the games and put them on your PSP to play? If Sony didn't want people to do this, they wouldn't allow the post in their own forums that tells you how up. I guess Sony wants you to play PSX games on your PSP???
Maybe you should educate yourself further, Mega Flare. Goomba will gladly help you with his vast "online resources." But I'm probably wrong anyways since I don't have access to these "online resources" and I should educate myself further.
...wait
what was this topic about again?
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arcthemonkey
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How dare you mention Parasite Eve!
I've been waiting for Parasite Eve 3 to come out ever since Parasite Eve 1 came out. Yes, that's right! I jumped the gun.
WHERE IS PARASITE EVE THREE SQUAREENIX?! WHERE?!?
I've been waiting for Parasite Eve 3 to come out ever since Parasite Eve 1 came out. Yes, that's right! I jumped the gun.
WHERE IS PARASITE EVE THREE SQUAREENIX?! WHERE?!?
There's never 'supposed' to be a sequal for a well made product. Sequals are just byproducts of things that become popular. So no, the story isnt left open at PE2 for the sake of a sequal but a sequal is possible, obviously, because the same was true at the end of PE1. They're too busy sequaling spinoffs of spinoffs at the moment, though(IE, the sequal to FFT Advance). Maybe an anthology down the line.
Technically Parasite Eve (ps1 game) is the sequel to the book of the same name.
Yea, Parasite Eve 2 was more or less "Let's make some money!" on Square's part but I personally enjoyed the 2nd one a lot; it was kind of like Resident Evil RPG but it actually WORKED quite well.
EDIT: You can actually buy the NTSC version of Parasite Eve movie on DVD with english subtitles.
In the book, a Japanese woman (the one Medea references) becomes the host for Eve. When she died, the Eve gene was passed on into Maya; Aya was able to defend herself from Eve because Maya's eyes were transplanted into Aya's giving her the ability to defend hersome from the parasite.
Yea, Parasite Eve 2 was more or less "Let's make some money!" on Square's part but I personally enjoyed the 2nd one a lot; it was kind of like Resident Evil RPG but it actually WORKED quite well.
EDIT: You can actually buy the NTSC version of Parasite Eve movie on DVD with english subtitles.
arcthemonkey
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Marcus, could you get me a link for that? I shopped around but all I could find was an english dub on VHS. I understand the film was really good.
Skyla Doragono
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Isn't this kinda... uh... illegal? Or at least, isn't Sony trying to whip at the homebrew stuff?
...though, playing FF7 on my PSP would be sweet...
...though, playing FF7 on my PSP would be sweet...
Parasite Eve (DVD)
http://www.amazon.com/Parasite-Eve-...pd_bbs_sr_5/104-3304406-3890347?ie=UTF8&s=dvd
Never seen it in stores although suncoast might carry it so ask them if they can order it for you if buying off of Amazon isn't your thing.
*sigh* It's not illegal unless the image file you have isn't yours. There's no law that saws you can take a cd you own and back it up onto your own harddrive but as soon as you give that image to someone else it becomes illegal.
Sony isn't trying to beat down homebrew specifically, in fact they've even allowed a link to this new firmware on their forums. The idea is to crack down on piracy; unfortunately, pirates use the same method homebrewers use to play stolen UMD images. When Sony makes the next "failsafe firmware" (I put that in quotations because they always get cracked) they do it to make it harder to bypass the protection.
However, with Popstation and the strange compatibility with 3.02 and 1.5, I honestly think Sony has given up but legal issues keep them from supporting the altering of their own code.
http://www.amazon.com/Parasite-Eve-...pd_bbs_sr_5/104-3304406-3890347?ie=UTF8&s=dvd
Never seen it in stores although suncoast might carry it so ask them if they can order it for you if buying off of Amazon isn't your thing.
*sigh* It's not illegal unless the image file you have isn't yours. There's no law that saws you can take a cd you own and back it up onto your own harddrive but as soon as you give that image to someone else it becomes illegal.
Sony isn't trying to beat down homebrew specifically, in fact they've even allowed a link to this new firmware on their forums. The idea is to crack down on piracy; unfortunately, pirates use the same method homebrewers use to play stolen UMD images. When Sony makes the next "failsafe firmware" (I put that in quotations because they always get cracked) they do it to make it harder to bypass the protection.
However, with Popstation and the strange compatibility with 3.02 and 1.5, I honestly think Sony has given up but legal issues keep them from supporting the altering of their own code.
Skyla Doragono
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Aaaahhh... okay, I see then. I might try this out as soon as I get a bigger memory card. wheeeehehehe... X3
you know, sometimes I think Sony only "pretends" to attack homebrew, by adding "security" patches on firmwares that end up being hacked anyway, as well security holes allowing downgrading possibilities.
you never know xD
but yeah, they do are against piracy, they're $ony after all. n the psx emu thingy, imo, will piss em off
you never know xD
but yeah, they do are against piracy, they're $ony after all. n the psx emu thingy, imo, will piss em off
arcthemonkey
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There is no "ps3 only" fiasco. People are just pissed because they have to wait. The PSP will probably be able to log into the PSNetwork before the end of the year.
It's no worse than LoZ:TP being released on Wii first. It's good business.
It's no worse than LoZ:TP being released on Wii first. It's good business.