Pokemon Spirit Chronicles (We Want You!)

[GrooveMan.exe]

Ebhz, if your main and only gripe with the concept is that Pokémon are normaly typified by being 'cute', well that's partially subjective, and partially down to art style and representation.

There are as many scary, meanacing, and disturbing Pokémon as there are visually cute ones. For Pokémon like Spiritomb, Sableye, and Dusknoir the meanacing tone is obvious. Others, like Spearow (who'll swarm any and every threat without remorse), Drifloon/Hypno (Who capture small children), and Aron (Will eat whole houses if not kept in check) are meanacing from a flavouring point of view.

That's ignoring the huge piles of fanart that exist depicting Pokémon in grim and scary ways. The Pokémon in this imagining are oft depicted as wild or feral over cute. There are infallibly cute and docile Pokémon existing, but they're also extremely rare.

We will take the point about you not being given enough story to work with to heart; and discuss with the rest of the team how much of the story we'll agree to post in one go.

Off-hand, isn't it a little unfair to claim we refuse to change on all matters, when really only one thing has asked to be changed - and the one thing we pretty much only won't change. As I say, we're more receptive to alter other aspects that don't define the game as a whole.

 

[ebhz.Ash.4rm]

And whilst you might see Velo's earlier posts as 'the best critique' it was a little hostile and abrasive for my tastes.

I was speaking generally from the site. And concerning the rest of your post I'll reserve judgement till the plot is up, it seems that it justifies everything so the mechanics alone could've left a wrong impression.

Ebhz, if your main and only gripe with the concept is that Pokémon are normaly typified by being 'cute', well that's partially subjective, and partially down to art style and representation.

That isn't my main or only gripe, it's one among many, even if your pokemon do still have the cute sprites when you show them, I'll know in context that they're demonic little things and it won't sit well.

There are as many scary, meanacing, and disturbing Pokémon as there are visually cute ones. For Pokémon like Spiritomb, Sableye, and Dusknoir the meanacing tone is obvious. Others, like Spearow (who'll swarm any and every threat without remorse), Drifloon/Hypno (Who capture small children), and Aron (Will eat whole houses if not kept in check) are meanacing from a flavouring point of view.

They're menacing to a 7yo, spearow is so weak it doesn't even matter, Spiritomb, Sableye and Dusknoir are certainly not as cute but menacing is stretching it at best I'd say scary. Capture small children? To play with them? Aron eating houses I dunno but that's hardly menacing it's just a hungry child.

That's ignoring the huge piles of fanart that exist depicting Pokémon in grim and scary ways. The Pokémon in this imagining are oft depicted as wild or feral over cute. There are infallibly cute and docile Pokémon existing, but they're also extremely rare.

The word fanart disregards this whole paragraph.

We will take the point about you not being given enough story to work with to heart; and discuss with the rest of the team how much of the story we'll agree to post in one go.

Off-hand, isn't it a little unfair to claim we refuse to change on all matters, when really only one thing has asked to be changed - and the one thing we pretty much only won't change. As I say, we're more receptive to alter other aspects that don't define the game as a whole.

If it's the main thing you post about in Concept Development and it's the one thing you won't change then what do you want feedback on? This should be in Project Discussion. If you really aren't gonna change that then I suggest you remove it from your post and put up your plot or if you aren't gonna change any aspect of your plot either then get a few screenshots and post it in Project Discussion or don't post anything at all if you don't have screens. There is no point me banging my head against a brick wall if you aren't going to change it at all.

 

[GrooveMan.exe]

Both Drifloon and Dusknoir take victims to an alternate dimension (dubbed 'Spirit Realm' in the anime). Pretty sure they kill the vicims they take, bro. Hypno brainwashes children, so even if they're going off to play, it's still against their will (good luck getting back home!).

That it's fanart doesn't so much disregard, as show evidence that there are other fans of the series, who see a different more meanacing interpretation of the Pokémon universe - it's not a rare opinion. That's aside from other parodies of the game (in webcomics, fan fiction, hey I even recall an old Nintendo magazine from the UK doing a mock article about it once), which also highlights the grey morality the game can unintentionally exude. We're not alone on this one, despite what you seem to think.

Honestly, if us not blindly agreeing with you, getting down on our knees and begging for more enrages you so much, you don't have to keep following this thread, just sayin'. It's probably better for your blood pressure.

Although we have a lot of game design going, it's not at a stange where we can start implimentation, hence no screens. We could use stand-in sprites, sure, but that would defeat the point. This is the acceptable stopoff-point in-between. Mods clearly agree because, well, the thread hasn't been moved.

 

[ReasonableGamer]

Updated the first post with a bit of information on the plot.

 

[GrooveMan.exe]

Updating with the work of one of our new volunteers! His name's Lybra, and he's doing some badass weapon and armour designs. If any of you should be so skilled to take on and capture a Gyarados, this is what you'll be treated to:

Intimidating, huh?

 

[GrooveMan.exe]

Or Artist Guzu has drawn a little something for all you boys and girls~

 

[GrooveMan.exe]

With the release of Heart Gold and Soul Silver, let's have a GSC-related update!

Introducing to you Silver, the mysterious and ever-so-slightly brooding rival of the Johto region. He's a thief like Blue, but his motives and... unique sense of dress make it look a little less glamorous. He steals an important item from Professor Elm, and the poor guy needs it back pretty badly. Elm's a little reluctant to specify just what was stolen, though. Maybe it would be a good idea to put a stop to things before something unpleasant happens.

 

[death by moogles]

FINALLY
I just want to say that this is a wonderful idea. I'm not going to be ignorant and put the project down because it's original and then say straight out that I'm not putting the project down. This thread has been horribly difficult to read through, and if I wasn't so caught up in study and working every time I get the chance on Castlevania, I would write for you without thinking twice. I've wanted to start a project like this for a really long time, but never had the chance to do much more than a little plot and character development.

I'm really impressed at how consistent you are. Even with all of the horrible - and unreasonable, I might add - criticism, your team still presses on. I think it's ironic that numerous posters have trashed the project because they don't seem to understand what this game is all about. I really hope you follow through with all this, just to make this a reality, just to show them that the concept of Pokemon can be more than what it's been wasted on. Pokemon has such potential, but it's been wasted on a score of games with little to no plot or character development. If this is a success, you will have my thanks.

I'm really looking forward to playing this game.

 

[Mr. M]

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but I don't think some of the people really get the game.

Simply, from what they've said, it's the basic pokemon manga story converted into a generic RPG, with pokemon that you catch, and instead of making them fight each other, they become armor/weapons. That's it. I guess in a way that's more "mature" but only when you compare it to the original "lets all be friends" story of pokemon.

Now to actually comment on the game, I think it looks good, but it seems like you guys aren't really making any progress at all. Obviously this is posted in concepts but how long are you guys planning on working on this game? From your blog it seems like it's been in production for a year, yet theres nothing besides concept art to show for it. I understand if you guys are keeping things hidden, but I mean maybe showing something besides art on your blog would get more people to become interested. No point in a blog to show off the game, if there is no game to show off.

I really like the concept though, and I think if this game actually gets done, depending on the way you guys choose to design it, it'll be great. Good luck, seriously. A lot of people are gonna enjoy your game

 

[Eidolion]

I like it, well minus the stealing of the souls part and leaving them dead. Why can't we all just get along and let the Pokemon like, enchant the gear with there powers or something. Either way, it's your game and I'm sure it'll come out great, and like it was stated above me, this is a bit more mature then your common pokemon.

So, good luck with this, I liked the comic, and I want to see more :O

 

[Pokémaniac]

EDIT- I thought this was a different thread and saw the Gary and was confused. I'm an idiot. Goodbye.

 

[duo]

Hey you guys have really great drawings, but no game... Why not do an online comic book? Your art is great and you have a good concept for a story. I would love to read it! If you publish your story online, I'm sure it would attract a lot of attention. People would come flocking to help you with making a game then. And this way, you'd be able to hash out the story details before the game gets started.

 

[-LuX-]

Yeah the ideas do clash a little, but nevertheless it still seems solid. This is however an original, but very risky direction to take a pokemon game as you can see. Some like myself will urge you to continue on with your project, but others will tell you that they disagree with the idea. I like it though since it is different than the same old same old pokemon. Best of luck.

- LuX