Metal Gear Solid vs Splinter cell

[Sirc]

From what I understand (or atleast the way they explain it in those campy videos you can watch before playing the game) is that Big Boss created three clones; one of them was perfect, the others would age rapidly. Solidus was the first and weakest clone, followed by Snake, and then Liquid. While they never specifically stated that Snake was made first, it was revealed that Solidus was the oldest and Big Boss constantly berrated Liquid for not being like Solid which makes me picture him as the youngest. That's just my opinion but I think it's pretty reasonable.

Besides, look at him. He was defeated 5 times in fatal accidents and yet he still lives on through someone elses body. Pretty invincible if you ask me.



The Patriots are dead. Otacon revealed that at the end of MGS2. Keep in mind that MGS2 was entirely about mis-information, cloning, and artificial intelligence; the only living member of the Patriots is Ocelot and Liquid (if you count him as living).

Like I said, Liquid lives only because of Ocelot's connection to the dead.

And even though at the end of MGS2 he says they have been dead for whatever amount of years, The developers revealed that The Patriots will be intertwined with MGS4's plot. So I don't know.

 

[Marcus]

Well, originally the story was supposed to take a completely different swing (Ocelot was going to have a metal arm) but Kojima said "hey... i want to fuck with the players. no really, i want to fuck with their heads."

MGS2 was pretty hit and miss. MGS3 was more "standard" as far as storytelling and characters go... it was still pretty off the wall but nothing you wouldn't see in a hollywood blockbuster.

But man, I hold MGS2 as KING.

 

[Sirc]

But man, I hold MGS2 as KING.

MGS1 is actually my favorite. Just because when I was a kid it reached to me the most, on an emotional level. I mean, I hardly understood the story but I had the jist. But yeah, MGS2 is just great in how it tells the story and was far ahead of it's time.

I felt MGS3 was good, but different and in it's own league.

 

[CIPWM74]

Idea: A game where James Bond meets Solid Snake and they go on missions together.
Seriously, that would PWN. Metal Gear Solid: Goldeneye. That would...
BWN. or SWN. or XWN.
Total XWNership.

 

[Marcus]

And even though at the end of MGS2 he says they have been dead for whatever amount of years, The developers revealed that The Patriots will be intertwined with MGS4's plot. So I don't know.

The Patriots are very much dead. Listen to that 30 minute long cinema at the end of the game before you fight Solidus. The AI Colonol says that they were developed to be the center hub of the world's information. As the original Patriots died off, the AI gained self awareness and began associating itself as the Patriots. It exists in AI form, and it created the S3 program not just as a simulation, but as a program that could be used to create their "perfect" society through the manipulation of data (they called it the social salinity sanity something or another).

The Patriots in MGS4 will most likely be the rogue AI at the end of MGS2... and I think Vamp is aware of this in some way (you can see Vamp standing near a taxi while Snake and Raiden speak during the ending). If anything, the Patriots are probably the ones controlling the war and I wouldn't be surprised if they created the beauty and the beast units as well as the new Metal Gears.

 

[Gauntlet]

MGS: goldeneye would suck... MGS can't be mixed with other things except for other MGS

 

[Marcus]

MGS: goldeneye would suck... MGS can't be mixed with other things except for other MGS

and smash brothers. and tony hawks pro skater. and ape escape. and a rainbow 6 esque first person shooter. duh.

 

[Gauntlet]

and smash brothers. and tony hawks pro skater. and ape escape. duh.

those things are fun for a while... but not for more than an hour or 2... you don't buy the game for ape escape, thps or super smash bros.

 

[Marcus]

I don't know, Konami said a lot of people enjoyed the Ape Escape mini-game in MGS3, the skateboarding and first person shooter mode from MGS2 whatever, and everyone is drooling over Snake in Brawl...

I'm pretty sure all you need is SNAKE in a game and it will instantly sell millions. Kind of like how putting Nintendo in the corner of the box will instantly make sales.

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[Fafnir]

I'm pretty sure all you need is SNAKE in a game and it will instantly sell millions. Kind of like how putting Nintendo in the corner of the box will instantly make sales.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6066 ... monqw8.gif[/img]

What about the Gamecube? It didn't sell so much(shame... such a nice little system...). Or was that because the magic word was in the middle, and not the corner?

 

[Marcus]

Or was that because the magic word was in the middle, and not the corner?

Definitely this. It must be in the corner or in the case of DS games, vertically flushed to the left of the box.