Hymns of Yggdrasil: Chapter Game
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SakuraPhoenix
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ablahblah987;195845 said:
I'm sorry did she say that it took place in a universe completely apart from an Earth based one? ^^; I mustn't have read carefully enough. And yes I've seen the movie and don't forget the realm of the T.V. shows. and yes they still do as I stated; (shall refrain from going into detail) But if it isn't your cup of tea, then tis not your cup of tea. Therefore you don't ever have to drink from a cup you don't like or want ^^;
ablahblah987
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It is not "real religion in a fictional game"; the game has real religions in a fantasy world, the equivalent of having George Bush suddenly appear in Lord of the Rings. And what the hell is an earth-based universe? That doesn't make any sense. I don't really care about what Stargate has in it; it doesn't change this game. I don't need a stupid metaphor to be taught a lesson about a stupid sci-fi show that has very little to do with this game.
Ok, if you don't like it, don't play it. What you are saying is kinda like saying that the religious hints in FF7 shouldn't be there because FF7 isn't on Earth.
and guess what, it's FICTIONAL. Fantasy, sci-fi, what have you. You can do anything you want in fiction. There is no right or wrong way to do it. This game can have a real religion in fiction if it wants to. There is no law against it. The only thing that has to be done with these religions is that some names are changed, or the names that are in the religion actually exist within the game.
And, please don't forget, it's fictional. Fantasy. Anything can be done in there, whether it makes sense to you or not.
And... Sasame, I wish you luck with this. ^^ It is very interesting.
and guess what, it's FICTIONAL. Fantasy, sci-fi, what have you. You can do anything you want in fiction. There is no right or wrong way to do it. This game can have a real religion in fiction if it wants to. There is no law against it. The only thing that has to be done with these religions is that some names are changed, or the names that are in the religion actually exist within the game.
And, please don't forget, it's fictional. Fantasy. Anything can be done in there, whether it makes sense to you or not.
And... Sasame, I wish you luck with this. ^^ It is very interesting.
ablahblah987
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Fiction and fantasy aren't the same thing. Fiction is something that could happen, while fantasy could never happen. This is fantasy. I agree you can put what ever you want in fantasy, but it just doesn't make sense to me to blatantly list real world things in fantasy. If you want to do that then I would advise hiding them as other things like any other fantasy story that has ever done something like this. I basically argued all of this for fun not because I really care that much. Sorry for the trouble I may have caused.
ablahblah987
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There are absolutely not exact synonyms in the technical sense of their definitions. You can't often use them interchangeably like that. I have do this:
Fantasy: "9. Also, fantasia. Literature. an imaginative or fanciful work, esp. one dealing with supernatural or unnatural events or characters: The stories of Poe are fantasies of horror."
Fiction: "3. something feigned, invented, or imagined; a made-up story: We've all heard the fiction of her being in delicate health."
I admit there is an overlap, but not like that.
Fantasy: "9. Also, fantasia. Literature. an imaginative or fanciful work, esp. one dealing with supernatural or unnatural events or characters: The stories of Poe are fantasies of horror."
Fiction: "3. something feigned, invented, or imagined; a made-up story: We've all heard the fiction of her being in delicate health."
I admit there is an overlap, but not like that.
ablahblah987: You countered, to some extent, some arguments here, but no word regarding my main one, so I will post it again to see if you either agree or find a flaw to that logic :D
"Now it can be logical if you considere the said religions/mythologies as not just culture or belief, but as truth (not saying you should believe all of it, just imagine if it was actually true even in our world) wouldn't be natural that if there were such powerful Gods, that they would be known by many races throught the whole universe? Maybe some would name then differently, but could there be more than one ppl to call Odin by the same name."
"Now it can be logical if you considere the said religions/mythologies as not just culture or belief, but as truth (not saying you should believe all of it, just imagine if it was actually true even in our world) wouldn't be natural that if there were such powerful Gods, that they would be known by many races throught the whole universe? Maybe some would name then differently, but could there be more than one ppl to call Odin by the same name."
ablahblah987
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The answer to that is clearly no.
ablahblah987
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Look, even if all the gods were real, then people on distant planets, would not resemble us at all (our looks, civilization, way of life, etc.) I do admit I am starting to see what you're saying from a fantasy perspective though. This could never happen realistically obviously but perhaps this could be plausible in this setting. I think I will stop trying to argue now, until I see the game.
Sasame Kiryu
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zOMG.... What a quarrell.... I'm just glad it's over...
Still trying to get materials for my game ie: sprites and scripts. Not too concerned with backdrops, tilesets, or music as I don't have a problem using RTP stuff (though some custom tracks would be awesome). If no one helps me by the time I'm done ironing out the kinks in the story and adapting it to a game format, then I'm probably going to get working on them myself. Which I really don't want to do, seeing as how long this has been taking already with my ever changing situation.
I like the fact that the idea of a religiously based game is so widely accepted here. Thanks for the vote of luck, Rye ^_^ I'll keep you posted on further development, as it probably won't take much longer for me to finish with this story.
Still trying to get materials for my game ie: sprites and scripts. Not too concerned with backdrops, tilesets, or music as I don't have a problem using RTP stuff (though some custom tracks would be awesome). If no one helps me by the time I'm done ironing out the kinks in the story and adapting it to a game format, then I'm probably going to get working on them myself. Which I really don't want to do, seeing as how long this has been taking already with my ever changing situation.
I like the fact that the idea of a religiously based game is so widely accepted here. Thanks for the vote of luck, Rye ^_^ I'll keep you posted on further development, as it probably won't take much longer for me to finish with this story.
chrono_link295
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ok.......i hate to say it but some one had to....
Sesame Kiryu wrote:
"Christianity: Proper Deity - None
Virgo
Nike
Noah"
now i stopped reading at this point because i kinda hate things that make absolutely NO seance what so ever (unless there my own words),
i have NO idea where you got "Proper Deity - None" or as to where or what the listing of names under that means since it says Noah i can only assume that the three names under the proper deity are the names of the important icons.
But i can tell you whatever they mean they make absolutely NO seance because Christianity has a proper deity, we call him GOD, or if you wont to dig a little deeper (into Jewish faith) Jehovah. Also, Virgo and Nike?!? WTF?!? are you on crack?!? If you want to try and be a tad less heresies, I'd recommend
changing nike to Abraham and virgo to one of the disciples BUT not Jesus, because i'm sure you have some kinda crappy unrealistic plot line planed out to where you make Christianity look like, well .......what an atheistic person would make it look like. If not , then good for you, but you still need to change Christianity's profile in your game, if not for reality's sake than for your life's sake because i'm sure a mob of angry Christians is gathering out side you house as you read this..........go ahead look............................if you dare!!!
I'm probably not gonna reply to this message.....so........yeah.....
Sesame Kiryu wrote:
"Christianity: Proper Deity - None
Virgo
Nike
Noah"
now i stopped reading at this point because i kinda hate things that make absolutely NO seance what so ever (unless there my own words),
i have NO idea where you got "Proper Deity - None" or as to where or what the listing of names under that means since it says Noah i can only assume that the three names under the proper deity are the names of the important icons.
But i can tell you whatever they mean they make absolutely NO seance because Christianity has a proper deity, we call him GOD, or if you wont to dig a little deeper (into Jewish faith) Jehovah. Also, Virgo and Nike?!? WTF?!? are you on crack?!? If you want to try and be a tad less heresies, I'd recommend
changing nike to Abraham and virgo to one of the disciples BUT not Jesus, because i'm sure you have some kinda crappy unrealistic plot line planed out to where you make Christianity look like, well .......what an atheistic person would make it look like. If not , then good for you, but you still need to change Christianity's profile in your game, if not for reality's sake than for your life's sake because i'm sure a mob of angry Christians is gathering out side you house as you read this..........go ahead look............................if you dare!!!
I'm probably not gonna reply to this message.....so........yeah.....
Firestalker5
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chrono_link295;210202 said:
Can i just say that it's people like you that make me scared of religion [Christianity mostly].
Have you read all the posts or just to that line then decided to attack her?
She has the right to say whatever she wants about YOUR religion, whether you like it or not. She's not saying it's the way it happened nor is she saying the game is based on truth. It's just a game. Get over yourself.
You might not care for her ideas, but you have don't have to attack her for them.
Edit: I just reread what you wrote and I have to say the Bolded section was uncalled for [well the whole post was uncalled for, but that most of all]. She doesn't HAVE to change anything if she doesn't want to. And if a mob of angry Christians decided to come to her house to kill her then why would any one want to have a God that would condone such violence?
Threatening her life isn't a way to get your point across. It just makes you look like an angry kid that obviously doesn't know his own religion.
It's people like you that started the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. Two of the biggests black marks in Christainity history.
Man Chrono, nothing like bringing up a dead debate. Please keep the thread about the game and not about religion. This looks to be a decent game and should be discussed in a rational way. I can't believe a mod didn't step in for this one.
Uh, hello? Did you happen to read the post above yours? I'm a mod...or else I couldn't do this! Now no more spam, please.
-Volrath
Uh, hello? Did you happen to read the post above yours? I'm a mod...or else I couldn't do this! Now no more spam, please.
-Volrath
Sasame Kiryu
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Sasame is a boy, not a girl v.v
Thanks for the defense though. I'll answer Chrono's question anyway, however overzealous and foreboding it is... =_=
Nike, is the goddess in which the angels of the bible were modeled after. Noah's there because if it wasn't for him, there would be no animals in the world, according to the bible. Virgo is there because the constellation has been known to be associated with the virgin Mary. I just wanted to be creative and not use that title because it's been used for so long v.v
I'm sorry for trying to be creative, but there's a warning at the beginning of the first post.
Also, you can't just say GOD is a proper christian deity, because greek and roman mythology have several GODs. This was all debated however. I've just now gotten ahold of another computer, so I'll be continuing work on this. Please PM me or post if you want to help me out. Show a little love and patience, please. Thanks ^_^
Sasame Kiryu.
Thanks for the defense though. I'll answer Chrono's question anyway, however overzealous and foreboding it is... =_=
Nike, is the goddess in which the angels of the bible were modeled after. Noah's there because if it wasn't for him, there would be no animals in the world, according to the bible. Virgo is there because the constellation has been known to be associated with the virgin Mary. I just wanted to be creative and not use that title because it's been used for so long v.v
I'm sorry for trying to be creative, but there's a warning at the beginning of the first post.
Also, you can't just say GOD is a proper christian deity, because greek and roman mythology have several GODs. This was all debated however. I've just now gotten ahold of another computer, so I'll be continuing work on this. Please PM me or post if you want to help me out. Show a little love and patience, please. Thanks ^_^
Sasame Kiryu.
Sasame Kiryu
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Just updating this right here.
I'm pleased to announce that the battle system is finally being worked on. Zephren, my first crew member, is doing that as we speak.
Thanks, Zephles!
Sasame has also been having significant progress with the story. Towns and things of the like will be congested with things to do ^_^ Gotta love having a game with extras XD
Also, Dargor is working on the CMS for me. I would imagine that anything extra that requires scripting, I'll be man enough to handle... I hope v.v
Thanks to Dargor and Zephren for the help, and I'll try and post SOMETHING of what's being done soon.
Thanks for the support on my projecct, and I hope to update this soon!!
Sasame Kiryu
I'm pleased to announce that the battle system is finally being worked on. Zephren, my first crew member, is doing that as we speak.
Thanks, Zephles!
Sasame has also been having significant progress with the story. Towns and things of the like will be congested with things to do ^_^ Gotta love having a game with extras XD
Also, Dargor is working on the CMS for me. I would imagine that anything extra that requires scripting, I'll be man enough to handle... I hope v.v
Thanks to Dargor and Zephren for the help, and I'll try and post SOMETHING of what's being done soon.
Thanks for the support on my projecct, and I hope to update this soon!!
Sasame Kiryu
Sasame Kiryu
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With my scripter randomly disappearing and no one left to sprite for me, I'm pretty much stuck in a rut. I'm not going to pursue this project without any help, as it's clearly demanding and I can only do so much on my own, considering how my situation is constantly changing.
I'll be getting up some of my fan game ideas up, since I can do SOME kind of frankenspriting, and the work is minimal, besides databasing and writing, which I'm good at both.
This project's seen better days, that's for sure. Until next time, I'll report for this to be closed, so I can post a new topic for it when I get to working on it again.
For now, Hymns of Yggdrasil is in a self induced coma ;p
I'll be getting up some of my fan game ideas up, since I can do SOME kind of frankenspriting, and the work is minimal, besides databasing and writing, which I'm good at both.
This project's seen better days, that's for sure. Until next time, I'll report for this to be closed, so I can post a new topic for it when I get to working on it again.
For now, Hymns of Yggdrasil is in a self induced coma ;p
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