Female Sexual Opression

[rpgfan_2007]

Its a sad commentary on our society today when a person who advocates that women and men be pure, and wholesome and treat the opposite sex with respect is regarded as a religious nutcase, but a person who states I'd let my daughter become a whore is generally regarded in good terms.

Like I said, I can sleep well at night because I know that the choices I make daily, are the right choices. I don't backstab, lie, cheat, or do anything that most people do. For this, I can sleep well and look at myself in the mirror.

 

[Luminier]

You don't need to know my background.

And yes, I am serious, and not joking around. Well, a little perhaps. I was joking around in that I am purposely being a little over the top perhaps to evoke a strong reaction because I like doing that hehe but generally speaking I'm pretty much do feel this way. Except for the over the top things I've said.

Look, just because I have morals, STRONG morals, and a well defined sense of right and wrong doesn't mean I can't get along with others, or that I'm this super judgemental person.

I happen to love truth, and seek out truth in every facet of my life. I love values like honesty, doing good unto others, non-conformity just because everyone else conforms...and many other values.

I dont' sit here and say I'm super squeaky clean, and all of you are miserable dirty bastards. But I clearly feel I am enlightened, more so than the average person. I can see that this society is going downhill. I won't be part of it. I'll sit and watch it all fall apart, and then I'll say, I told you so.

But it doesn't mean I judge others. Or that I look down upon "sluts" and "prostitutes". I feel sorry for them really.

When I say that women ought to seek after purity, I say such things not out of condemnation, but I say it in the earnest desire to help those that are confused and lost. It is a good thing to be pure, and chaste, no?

I can see I've offended many here. But I don't judge anyone here or look down, or am even suprised. No way. I know what's going on, but just because everyone around me does and do, doesn't mean I should. I stick to my own principles, and ethics. And I can sleep well at night. That's all that matters. A good night's sleep.

Bull. You say you don't judge? And yet you say women that have slept with more than one man are impure and in the wrong. You say you pity "sluts" and prostitutes? No, I do believe that you said that sluts weren't worth anything. Lastly, it sounds like you said that you enjoy provoking people, which invites flames, so don't do it. Enjoy your little bubble of God's love that'll keep you safe from society's collapse.

 

[Yum]

Aww, who said you were a nutcase? Besides, I know "nutcase" and you ain't no nutcase buddy.

I just kind of implied you'd make decent speeches as a cult leader.

 

[rpgfan_2007]

.....

 

[Luminier]

People like Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, in my opinion, are worthless. It's sad but most women today would love to be these idiots, and that is what I meant when I said they are "worthless".

And I feel bad for prostitutes, but it doesn't mean I look down upon them. If they were in need, I'd help them in anyway I could. Prostitutes must be some of the most miserable people on the planet. Any guy who says he'd let his daughter become a whore is NUTS, and INSANE.

Maybe you think I'm chauvinist. Not so. I am Pro-Female. I want females to be respected and to be respectful again, and I would love to live in a society where both men and women respect each other according to God's will. Do you think our society is respectful of women? I'd argue that we live in a time when women are treated like sex objects. Listen to some of the music played. It's awful. "bitch" this. "whore" that. "slut" this.

I would never disrespect women, even if they are "whores" or "sluts". But it doesn't mean I'd hang around them either.

In sum, our society is hopelessly lost. We've abandoned all the age old value systems that helped the human race to get to this point today. We're self-destructing and I'm witnessing it before my eyes. Divorce. Infidelity. Decrease in marriages. Increases in single Moms.

And that a Female would start a thread that argues that Women are being OPPRESSED because they can't sleep around like men is indicative of the problems today. The decline in morality. All I can say is, God help us all.

All I can say is Goddamn, why do I feel the need to point out all of the stupid little contradictions in your dumb posts?

One thing first; Do know of anything outside of the U.S.?! I'm sorry, but I seriously doubt that there are many Japanese, Chinese, French etc. girls that wish to be like those women. In fact, it seems your little "Jesus love me" bubble prevents you from seeing the many American girls that would never, ever want to be like them.

Okay, no more talking to you for me. I hate posting off-topic. Enjoy your blinding opaque sphere of self-assuredness and absurdity.:thumb:

 

[$t3v0]

I don't think this topic was a very good idea :p

I say this mainly because girls don't exist on the internet, So we have a war between males with different degrees of feminicity.

 

[Luminier]

I don't think this topic was a very good idea :p

I say this mainly because girls don't exist on the internet, So we have a war between males with different degrees of feminicity.

This post is composed entirely of both awesome and win. I tip my hat to you. Perhaps this should be locked, before a flame war starts(I know I'm not helping.)?

 

[Lene]

I think that women need to be in completely control of their sexuality without society looking down on them.

However they also need to respect themselves enough to not let others violate them. Unconsciously and consciously.

Like girls who will pretend they're bisexual to stimulate a man? Maybe some will see it as a empowered female in control of their sexuality. I see it as sexist and degrading to both women involved. (Unless they're actually in a threeway, bi relationship. But usually that is not the case)

JMO, your mileage may vary.

There was a song about this guy who had a girlfriend. Well he comes back to the house and finds the girl having sex with another girl. And he's like, man these women need a dick in the equation, THREESOME TIME! Hell, there are a bunch of songs today that run along these lines.

BLEH!

Just because a girl chooses to act in a certain way sexually, doesn't mean that they're in the right, or they're not internalizing society's misogyny by doing so.

 

[Venetia]

@ Lene: I agree with you for the most part (about chicks who pretend to be "hot" by kissing their friend and saying they're bi) but you can be bi without having two partners. You go with one or the other, and are still attracted to everyone, but ya don't act on it. It's just the same as anyone else who only likes one sex ... except, the temptation's a little more amplified so ya gotta have more self control :'3

I don't think this topic was a very good idea

I say this mainly because girls don't exist on the internet, So we have a war between males with different degrees of feminicity.

Lene and I are chicks >_>

The person who started this thread's a chick too ......

But lol @ that anyway.

 

[Lene]

Yeah I know, Venetia. I meant threesome bi-sexual, meaning that it's not two girls together for the sake of the guy (or two guys for the sake of the girl), but everyone with genuinely attracted with everyone else. Sort of a bit more equal.

 

[Andy6000]

hey so, I'm tired of reading this. rpgfan if you don't write your fucking posts as 'OPINION PIECES' I'm going to ban you from this thread. Yes I could handle this better but I am seriously fucking tired of reading your bullshit by now.

 

[rpgfan_2007]

hey so, I'm tired of reading this. rpgfan if you don't write your fucking posts as 'OPINION PIECES' I'm going to ban you from this thread. Yes I could handle this better but I am seriously fucking tired of reading your bullshit by now.

I agree with your conclusion, although I don't agree with how you've handled this ie threatening and using foul language. I still can't believe what I wrote is that offensive, but maybe it's me. All I was trying to say was, being a slut = bad? Nevertheless, I've offended too many, and that's wasn't my intention at all. Plus, it didn't help that I somewhat intentionally wrote it in a way to invite a strong reaction. Maybe I shouldn't have done that, and toned it down. So to rectify this, I've gone ahead and deleted my posts. I hope that's not offensive.

Anyway, I don't want to hang around the Symposium section anymore. It's too serious and argumentative. What's the point of "debating" anyway? Nobody convinces anyone of anything. People will think what they want, and flame those they disagree with.

I'm going to stay in the Game Forums and stay away from "serious" sections of the forum. That's why I came here anyway, to learn about RMXP.

 

[kyonides]

on topic (forgive me if this is off topic, too)
I don't like this threesome alternative at all, but I would like to say something about it. These "bi" don't even know themselves. I mean, who are they trying to befool? It doesn't make sense if you pretend to be what you're not. You are unable to enjoy anything, you already know it's fake and only if you'd like to become some actor / actress you would say that it satisfied your needs.

Some day I read that bi people tend to be bi just for a specific period in their lives (it may take months or years) and later they make their choice, either straight or homo. This may happen because they don't know what they want. They keep asking people what they should be and forget all about to look for the answer on their own.

What I dislike a lot is when you are this or that and a group, either straight or homo, suddenly is pressing you to become one or the other. I know about some real life examples that would make you see things from another perspective. Sometimes they aren't telling you that you should stop being homo or that you may be one that is being forced to look like a normal guy or woman most of the time and didn't notice that you were different. There are a few cases where a group that doesn't support homos push a guy or girl aside just because they think they can only be a homo for the rest of their lives, even if those victims didn't show any interest in changing their current sexual preference. It's weird but also the worst case of discrimination I heard about.

off topic (I guess)
I would say that people like stevo didn't find it useful or meaningful because it's our own fault.
how many times have you tried to convince a woman / girl to join a community / forum / to start a blog just like that? even if there is no reason, they should feel like they are invited / welcome here or there.
most of the time we care about those females that posted resources or anything else but we don't even ask them their opinions when we talk about these serious topics.
Edit:
Well, yes, I am against this kind of mentality that accepts something but rejects anything else just because it isn't accepted. That's the same reason why I'm against several kinds of opression. You should do things willingly not because of peer or society pressure.

 

[Achantion]

wel , i get your point  , my answer:
boys have a lot of girls = cool .. (what the hell  , yeah right nottong cool about it , its about how you deal with it )
girl have a lot of boys = slut ( depends , i know 2 ppl : 1) she had some boys and wel you know what -> that makes a slut
                                                                          2) She had some boys to BUT she didn't act like a slut )
advise : if you don't act like one it doesn't matter ,
but think of it .. you think a relation would work with someone who had dosons of boys/girls
thats al there is to say .. its al about how you act .

 

[Aeon Blue]

First:

The concept of taking a woman's virginity stems from a time when underage girls were married, whom had not had their first menstruation and were thusly "intact". So unless you sleep with a 7 year old girl (some start as early as , you're not going to sleep with any girl that has not lost her hymen. It can also be severed in severe sports or impact-related injuries.

Venetia, I love everything you've contributed to this thread! A quick correction here, though:  menstruation doesn't always destroy the hymen. It is often destroyed before intercourse by rigorous physical activity, by the use of tampons, or self exploration, but it's possible to still have it in adulthood. Both women and men rely too much on its presence as having any significance, but it is not "a thing of the past," so to speak.

Second:

I understand how the concept of women being able to sleep around is probably a more significant issue to most people, but personally, it's a small and insignificant issue to me in light of things like:

--That there are 40 year old women out there that have been married since they were twenty and have never had an orgasm.

--That lesbianism has been subverted from a long-oppressed expression of love between women and turned into a mockery of itself as public entertainment for men. (Covered in this topic previously.)

--That everything in media has raised me to believe that my worth is tied to my looks.

--That even my own mother wanted me to go to college to meet a man and that my father told me that my place was under my husband.

And, female gamer related issues. (I have a lot of these!):

--That I have to leave most message boards because the posters treat it as a boy's-only club and inevitably shower the discussions with "boobiesboobiesboobies!"

--That I can't watch most television or non-family rated movies because the only people that represent my gender are artificial constructs that represent idealized male lust, not anyone I'd ever actually know or be. In other words, boobiesboobiesboobies.

--That I haven't played a game with a female character that was more than boobiesboobiesboobies in a long time.

--That if I do get into the games industry I can look forward to being a poster girl for male gamers that want to see my boobiesboobiesboobies.

--That while most male gamers will swear up and down they would love to see more women playing video games, in reality they react violently to sharing space with them. When women begin talking about dongsdongsdongs, they go screaming in the other direction, troll, flame, and of course they aren't willing to give up the boobs on heels in their games in favor of a female character with substance and integrity. In other words, when they say that want to see more female gamers, they really mean that they want female gamers that love boobiesboobiesboobies  too.

Ugh! It's hard to feel like a sexually liberated woman when you're a female gamer.