Everything you wanted to know about.. RELIGION

[dadevvtsvre]

He was filmed saying it, are you saying he's lying in live TV o.O

Well, yeah. Or at least, he doesn't think he's lying.

I'm no geology expert but I've read enough to be pretty sure that Gentry's "evidence" regarding radioholes as proof of a young earth aren't true. (interesting to note that while Gentry has a Master's degree in physics, I don't think he has many credentials in geology)

This could actually be a whole topic on its own, really.

 

[Zelfouz]

@Tindy
Didn't know you're a woman, sorry
But what on earth do Ancient Africans has to do with this?
I don't have to believe every story I hear. I believe a story my father told me, which was told to him by his father and so on. and they say THEY saw it happening. How many africans met their G-D? were there even 2 people at the time it happened, somehow I doubt it. We had 600,000, not including women and children.

Christians believe that Jesus rose from the dead and revealed himself to a vast number of people. And what about Pentecost? Christians believe that a number of early Christians were hanging out, and then the holy spirit came along and made them all speak in tongues. In both instances there were numerous witnesses, and then it was all written down.

And yet, in spite of all those witnesses who were THERE, you are not a Christian. Why do you make the distinction?

 

[silver wind]

And you're not a Jew.
I doubt any of us will change religion anytime soon :p
I find our proofs more convincing, especially since both Christians and Muslims accept the bible as true. Nothing has changed since, G-D's words are eternal, only humans change their mind. If what Christians say is true, why wasn't it included in our profit books in the bible? Would G-D not tell us something that important is about to /may happen ?

What is your answer to this:
We claim if G-D really wanted to have a new nation, he wouldn't go whispering it to some man in a cave, but do it like the first time, even bigger: with millions of witnesses, lightnings and sounds. Because you Christians don't reject the story about mt. Sinai, and since G-D shown the proper way to start a religion is in front of millions, why is the second time less impressive? I'd have expected it to be bigger, to cancel out the first.
Edit: I don't suppose 'vast numbers' mean hundreds of thousands, am I right?

 

[Zelfouz]

And you're not a Jew.

I am not a Jew, nor am I a Christian or a Muslim. I don't trust any of your scriptures. But I'm trying to understand your viewpoint, so lets toss that aside for the moment.

Your point was that the written accounts had witnesses, therefore they must be true. I pointed out other accounts that claim to have had witnesses, so by your argument they must be true as well. I am asking you: Why do you discredit those claims? Why is the number of witnesses relevant at all?

I doubt any of us will change religion anytime soon :p
I find our proofs more convincing, especially since both Christians and Muslims accept the bible as true. Nothing has changed since, G-D's words are eternal, only humans change their mind. If what Christians say is true, why wasn't it included in our profit books in the bible? Would G-D not tell us something that important is about to /may happen ?

Most Christians would argue that the prophecies were included. If the bible were the direct word of God, why would he make it so easy to misinterpret? Why wouldn't he communicate so that everyone could understand?

What is your answer to this:
We claim if G-D really wanted to have a new nation, he wouldn't go whispering it to some man in a cave, but do it like the first time, even bigger: with millions of witnesses, lightnings and sounds. Because you Christians don't reject the story about mt. Sinai, and since G-D shown the proper way to start a religion is in front of millions, why is the second time less impressive? I'd have expected it to be bigger, to cancel out the first.
Edit: I don't suppose 'vast numbers' mean hundreds of thousands, am I right?

I don't see the point you're trying to make here. How do you know there were hundreds of thousands of people there? Weren't much of the contents of the bible passed from generation to generation orally before being written down? Couldn't details have been lost, warped, or invented prior to being written down?

 

[silver wind]

firstly, I'm glad you made that post earlier. I never heard the Jesus 'coming back to life' story before. It's interesting, especially since I do think the vast number of witnesses is a valid proof. when I encounter any response about this subject from a Rabi, I'll post it here.

why would he make it so easy to misinterpret? Why wouldn't he communicate so that everyone could understand?

Weren't much of the contents of the bible passed from generation to generation orally before being written down? Couldn't details have been lost, warped, or invented prior to being written down?

The two questions answer each other. There are two parts of the bible: one written, the other transfered by heart from a teacher to his students, and both goes back until the events in Mt Sinai. The part transferred orally EXPLAINS parts of the bible which may otherwise be misinterpreted. That second part was not changed since it was given. How do I know that?
For example, it contains the fact that earth is round.
Thousands of years ago when the world believed the earth is flat, and carried by elephants, We Jews claimed the earth is round. If we would have changed the traditions to fit the period every time we wanted, the 'round world' tradition would have not lasted until this day!
Imagine how much mockery our ancestors got for believing the earth was round back then. But we kept our belief, because we believed it was the words of G-D, and the scientists were simply wrong. Furthermore, those oral traditions contain the fact that the moon cycle takes exactly 29.530590 days. A very recent scientific discovery confirms that number. If this number was passed perfectly, so we can safely assume the rest of the oral part hasn't changed during the years.
We can also conclude the bible and the oral part were not invented by a man. No one back then had the tools to measure time with accuracy of 0.000001 seconds, nor a spaceship to use to see earth is round.

 

[j4kl1ng3r]

Owning women as slaves:
- In Islam, owning women as slaves are allowed but under certain conditions, which include:

- The slave is willing to work. Not that she is bought from a black market. No, it's that she is working willingly to her master/mistress to get paid well.

- She is getting treated well, allowed to see her family, have her freedom and is not physically abused. She is a human after all, not an animal.

I do not see how this accounts as slavery at all. Please, seriously, this forum is for serious discussion. Please quote the Qu'ran where it makes these exceptions.

Tell me something Tindy. I see you're a man who likes to questions things. Now, the USA's independence, how do you know it really was day 250 years ago? No human has lived for 250 years, right? I'll bet you think: but we have an independence day every year since! Why would the entire nation celebrate an event that didn't happen?
So, What do you say about passover- celebrating the exodus? or Shavuot(I believe you call it Pentecost), the jewish holiday to celebrate the day we got the bible from Mt. Sinai?
Why do jews, for thousands of years celebrate events that DID NOT happen?
Suppose, for a second, that all these people were 'brain washed'. How did that happen?
..maybe it was something like that:
Hey tindy, I'm starting a new religion, do you mind telling your kids a story about getting a book from G-D? oh, thanks a lot Tindy, you're a great friend. But remember, your kids must pass it on to their kids and so on or it won't work!! and tell your neighbors too, and your friends and everyone else, they all must tell the exact same story, ok? Thanks again!
we don't tell our kids Jesus/Muhamad had a 'divine revelation' behind some mountain, where nobody saw him. We tell them WE were there. So, it was more like: hey Tindy, will you tell your kids you SAW me getting the book from G-D with our entire nation? But it's not only you, it's you and 600,000 people. Won't the other people tell your son they were not there, that it's a lie? They are all telling the same story, and celebrating an event, which 'never happened' because you claim the bible was written by a man.

Your operating from the assumption that these things actually happened. The scenario that you presented, where someone asked someone else to make things up is immature and unreasonable. There are a million different scenarios that could have happened between the time when Judaism (or any religion, for that matter) took hold and when it "happened". For instance, if I wanted to invent a religion all I would have to do was say that it happened a very long time ago.

And we know that the constitution was written because the documentation is reliable and believable. It is within common perception and the realm of logical thinking. The existence of a Jewish or a Christian God goes against logical thinking. The Bible, as a document, is unreliable because it has been manipulated and edited by man. And though you may believe that somehow deception is impossible when it comes to religion, think about how often churches and orthodoxies changed ideas based upon new ideas and thinking. What do you do when your father tells you not to touch (as a perfect example) the skin of a pig, but then the church says it's ok? What if the church changed the number from 20,000 to 600,000. What if they tell you that it was a mistranslation, or that the number has been revised to correct historical inaccuracy?

@Tindy
Didn't know you're a woman, sorry
But what on earth do Ancient Africans has to do with this?
I don't have to believe every story I hear. I believe a story my father told me, which was told to him by his father and so on. and they say THEY saw it happening. How many africans met their G-D? were there even 2 people at the time it happened, somehow I doubt it. We had 600,000, not including women and children.

This is called condescension. How dare you expect someone to respect your religion when you respect no one else's. You somehow doubt that there were even 2 people there? Their fathers told it to their sons who told it to theirs and that's the same system you have set for your religion yet you are right because.....................?

Tell me, Silver Wind. Why are the Jews Gods' chosen people? Why would an omnipotent being favor one specific genealogy of his creation?

 

[silver wind]

if I wanted to invent a religion all I would have to do was say that it happened a very long time ago.

YES. if it was a story about a few people/ single person that claims he saw some divine sight. NOT if you come and tell ME that I and my entire nation were there. NOT if you claim we celebrate this event every year since. You can't come and say, hey people let's make up this 'independence day' and say it existed for the last 250 years. Because people at that time know you're lying, they know it didn't happen the last year. Why would they cooperate? If you know the main 'priest' of the new religion is lying to you, why would you believe this religion, and teach it to your children? I'm sorry, but you're not making any sense.

Tell me, j4kl1ng3r, the minister of defense where you live, I suppose the prime minister chose him. Why did he choose him? It's not ok to prefer one person! how rude of him! We are all equal !111!
Seriously. G-D chose us, because sometimes, despite our equality, a choice must be made. It doesn't make you less important, it just means you're not the minister of defense. you have an other role in this world. Our role is to be a nation of priests (in the jewish meaning, like a spiritual guide), according to our belief.
Now, about my 'condescension'. I have the right to not believe everything I hear, do we agree on this point at least? Good. I never even heard the ancient African's religious stories, let them come, show some proofs to their claims and who knows, maybe I'll be convinced.

Also,

The Bible, as a document, is unreliable because it has been manipulated and edited by man.

I proved the opposite. twice in this thread. You ignored my claims and brought no proof to support yours. Until this day, no one found a conclusive proof against the bible. If there was one, It would be all over the newspapers, I assure you. I'm not talking about 'evolution' and age of the world, both can be settled with the bible without there being any contradiction. The bible contains many facts, which he commits that they are true. All one has to do is contradict one of them. Take all the time you need, I'm waiting. How do you explain the fact we know the length of the moon cycle, thousands of years ago? Did a man write it, he must have been lucky to guess the exact number,
29.530590.
But then again, the chance for him guessing that is more likely than the universe being created by a blast, so believe what you want.
PS: Can't help it ^____^
I'm hungry, blast me a pizza. Or atleast a paper cup. 10,000$ to anyone blasting something and creating a paper cup from the blast spontaneously. Again, take your time.

 

[Incognitus]

basically, the core ideas of religion are "stop being a dick, respect people, do good shit, and don't be an idiot.".

Ohhhh I SOOOO wish that was in the Bible.

[17] And the Lord said unto the Pharoh [18] "Duuuude, like, stop being a dick". [19] And the people rejoiced in the land of Canaan.

How do you explain the fact we know the length of the moon cycle, thousands of years ago? Did a man write it, he must have been lucky to guess the exact number,

No. He worked it out from observations of the heavens. Like the Maya and their nature-cycle based calenders. Can you give the location of this? There might be more I can say about this (without researching) but would need to have some idea of the time, nature and context of the comment.

Our role is to be a nation of priests (in the jewish meaning, like a spiritual guide), according to our belief.

Yes - but that interpretation was created and developed between the 15th and 19th centuries in Europe. That's not what it meant originally. Originally, it meant exactly what it said on the tin.



My question:

If you believe the Bible to be literally true rather than an informative series of inspired stories, how do you reconcile your beliefs with;

A) The open similarities to earlier mythologies.
B) The results of archeological excavations and such things that have since fallen out of favour, such as G-d's consort?

 

[silver wind]

He worked it out from observations of the heavens.

By observation you can be accurate by a minute, -maybe- a second.
Not by 0.001 of a second. If I'll run a 100 meter course, and you measure my time, without a stopper, but only observation: telling when I cross the finish line,
can you tell me it took exactly 12.5876 seconds?
This requires accurate equipment, which did not exist back then.
The source is the Talmud, an old, 2000 year old text.
tractate 'Rosh Hashana', page 25, 1, The words of Rabi Gamliel.
The number I brought was confirmed by a scientist of NASA, Carl Sagan , here is the actual page in his book:

Spoiler

The open similarities to earlier mythologies.

Examples please.

The results of archeological excavations and such things that have since fallen out of favour, such as G-d's consort?

Can you rephrase the question, I thought 'out of favour' means to displease someone.
I have no idea what you're referring to. Since when does G-D have a consort? What archeological excavations?

 

[Stardust]

This thread is going off-course a little. I'm going to avoid the conversations going on right now (mostly because I have no evidence to pull up to support either side) and I'll ask some questions that I've been wondering.

This question is meant for anyone who is religious: do you ever doubt your religion? Honestly? I think everyone doubts their beliefs at one point or another, but I'm interested to see what people will say. :3

For Jewish people: now, my family might just be weird, but I guess there's certain physical features that allow them to tell when someone is Jewish. Is this a result of a group of people coming out of the same area and marrying into people of the same religion/area?

For all that it applies: why black clothes? Why are those heavy black clothes required dress attire? It seems like they would be incredibly hot, so I want to know what meaning it has that would make people want to hold on to that tradition.

 

[Ellie]

I was near locking this thread but since Guardian has brought it back inline I wont, for now; keep in note that we already have a religion thread and ideally this thread should be a question/answer session, not an uber religious debate (as that is what the religion thread is for).

 

[Incognitus]

He worked it out from observations of the heavens.

By observation you can be accurate by a minute, -maybe- a second.
Not by 0.001 of a second. If I'll run a 100 meter course, and you measure my time, without a stopper, but only observation: telling when I cross the finish line,
can you tell me it took exactly 12.5876 seconds?
This requires accurate equipment, which did not exist back then.
The source is the Talmud, an old, 2000 year old text.
tractate 'Rosh Hashana', page 25, 1, The words of Rabi Gamliel.
The number I brought was confirmed by a scientist of NASA, Carl Sagan , here is the actual page in his book:

Spoiler

Ohhhh. I presume that's the Babylonian Talmud, right? That could be the link you're looking for right there. The Babylonians were very in tune with time and the cosmos etc. I mean, if the Southern Americans managed to calculate the orbital cycles of the solar systems to the same sort of the degrees you are talking about by watching the heavens, I think the Babylonians (who were clearly far more scientifically advanced than the Mayans imo) probably got something useful down about the moon.
I have no qualms with the idea that they had this knowledge when they did.

It might have been scientific osmosis which got carried over later, or something more concrete.

The open similarities to earlier mythologies.

Examples please.

Well there is the story of the creation - that goes back a long time. Most of the older stories in the book of Genesis are patched together, or direct riffs on the older themes - like the similarities between Noah and Gilgamesh in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
Heck, in the original Sumerian Eden story, the snake was the hero and a Prince, Enki, who represented Earth against the heavenly powers and interceded to prevent "the Gods and Goddesses" from drowning Earth (he failed).
You can see a clear link between his title of "Prince of Earth" and that which was later given to the character which we broadly know as "Ha'Satan", eh?

The results of archeological excavations and such things that have since fallen out of favour, such as G-d's consort?

Can you rephrase the question, I thought 'out of favour' means to displease someone.
I have no idea what you're referring to. Since when does G-D have a consort? What archeological excavations?[/quote]

You're phrasing it wrong: it's not a question of "since when", because obviously he no longer has a consort. :P But it was quite a lot earlier. Off the top of my head, I can't cite archeological excavations, but there is a old article from Ha'aretz which I read some time ago* which basically lays out all the various problems with using the Torah as a history book - you know, the fact that Jericho never had any walls, the Israelites never invaded, there was no exodus, Solomon and David were the head of a small tribal kingdom as opposed to a regional power etc etc...


*Am trying to find it, but can't - I saw a link to it recently though, and I'm trawling through my history and will add it later! I have, however found a link to the PBS documentary which apparently contains much of the same points. The Ha'artez article predates it by a good few years though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyQwC00VaI0

I thought 'out of favour' means to displease someone.

Yes, and now the ideas have fallen out of favour and thus they displease a good number of people when mentioned - especially those tourist traps in Israel. ;P
People wrongly assume that Judaism has been this constant unchanging force, but any book which is intellectually honest about Jewish history has observed that there were a large number of interpretations of the books and material that was only really codified close into a manner which would recognize around the 15th century (printing press) and the 19th century (nationalism).
Some scholars have noted that the idea that G-d had a wife was rather popular through the Caucuses and eastern Europe right up to the late medieval period.

 

[Incognitus]

For Jewish people: now, my family might just be weird, but I guess there's certain physical features that allow them to tell when someone is Jewish. Is this a result of a group of people coming out of the same area and marrying into people of the same religion/area?

Most of the traditional ideas of the Jew - you know, the big nose, texture of hair etc etc are traditionally features of the Caucuses, the Ottomans for instance. I always associate some of the traditionally "Jewish" features with the Hittites - but then there's definitely a link between the two anyway seeing as the Hittites controlled the Levant long before any of the Jewish patriarchs are supposed to have existed.
European Jewry, on the whole, have never really looked anything like how they've been characterized (as in the basis has never really been there - not that it's just a bad and sweeping stereotype).

For all that it applies: why black clothes? Why are those heavy black clothes required dress attire? It seems like they would be incredibly hot, so I want to know what meaning it has that would make people want to hold on to that tradition.

It's actually a myth that black clothes are hotter than other types of clothes. Some psychologists have suggested that the only people who feel hotter in black clothes than other colours are those who believe their clothes would be hotter. This idea became so prevalent across the West sometime, it's now impossible to imagine otherwise.

 

[So fist]

Thousands of years ago when the world believed the earth is flat, and carried by elephants, We Jews claimed the earth is round. If we would have changed the traditions to fit the period every time we wanted, the 'round world' tradition would have not lasted until this day!

This is not a unique belief/scientific understanding. Many people in the ancient world knew or at least figured the earth was round. Just because it isn't in the mythology of a people doesn't mean it isn't in the science. The Hellenistic people's made an accurate estimate of its circumfrence by measuring shadows through trigonometry. And almost every people that lives along a shoreline and engage in seafaring knew the earth wasn't flat by the way that ships disappear from the horizon. There was never a great debate among flat earth theorists and round earth radicals. It was always a matter of common sense. Unlike Galileo's threat to the Ptolemeic universe, however...

 

[Ellie]

It was actually the Greeks (4 BC) who first saw the world as spherical, (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth, also BBC program QI). Most people believed the world was spherical. (Incidently, some saw it as pear shaped). It was in fact Christianity which tried to push the opposite view (a flat Earth), a view which quickly changed when it was proven (by extended travel). In other words, the Jewish belief that the world was round was the popular belief (if that was the case). Furthermore, Christianity changed their views to conform with the popular belief by debunking the view that the Earth is flat and that stars are holes in the fabric of the sky leading into heaven.

 

[silver wind]

The link you gave yourself says the opposite. Are you being sarcastic?
The myth of flat earth

In 1834... Jean Antoine Letronne, a French academic of strong antireligious ideas, misrepresented the church fathers and their medieval successors as believing in a flat earth

..the conflict thesis, a view of history according to which any interaction between religion and science almost inevitably would lead to open hostility, with religion usually taking the part of the aggressor against new scientific ideas.

The article then calls this thesis, 'a legend'.

I don't think the article is accurate. As far I as I know, the idea of the earth being round was merely a philosophical idea, not more serious than 'everything is water' and other nonsense. Some say they meant the earth was a round DISC, not a round sphere. Also, the common people went on believing in flat earth longer after 4 BC.

You know what, let's say we copied the round earth concept from the Babylonians. maybe. However, we knew, in the same period, that the earth spins around itself, and that some places, like north pole, only have 1 hour of light during a day, and that climate changes the appearance of humans. and that every fish that has scales has fins. Every fish in the sea follows this rule.
Is all this a lucky guess ?

 

[Incognitus]

You know what, let's say we copied the round earth concept from the Babylonians. maybe. However, we knew, in the same period, that the earth spins around itself, and that some places, like north pole, only have 1 hour of light during a day, and that climate changes the appearance of humans. and that every fish that has scales has fins. Every fish in the sea follows this rule.
Is all this a lucky guess ?

You're going to have to back this up by posting the exact lines about which we talking: nobody can make a judgment when you all of this happens in the Bible and then don't allow us to scrutinize it.

Like that bit about climate - we don't know what sort of changes you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure if we're talking about skin colour, then the reasoning that climate changes the appearance there would be self-evident and not down to "lucky guesses" or divinely bestowed knowledge.

 

[So fist]

As far I as I know, the idea of the earth being round was merely a philosophical idea,

As far as you know gravity could merely be the ethereal invisible elves pulling us back down to the ground. Ignorance is hardly proof of fact. Let's deal with things that are verifiable.

Source: http://www.math.tamu.edu/~dallen/master ... lnistc.pdf [page 15]

In a remarkable achievement he [Eratosthenes of Cyrene] attempted the measurement of the earth’s circumference, and hence diameter. Using a deep well in Syene (nowadays Aswan) and an Obelisk in Alexandria, he measured the angle cast by the sun at noonday in midsummer at both places. He measured the sun to be vertical in Syene and making an angle equal to 1/50 of a circle at Alexandria he measured the circumference of the earth to be 25,000 miles. Remember, this measurement of the radius of the earth was made in 250 B.C.

not more serious than 'everything is water' and other nonsense.

You mean like how god in Genesis separated the water that is the sky from the water that is the sea. You do realize that means in the cosmology of things set up by the first chapter of Genesis that the sky is made up of the same stuff in the ocean, its just you know... up there. And if you actually see the bible as an absolute authoritative chonological history, how do you reconcile that Genesis 1 has man created after god creates all of the plants, animals, and whatsits and then in Genesis 2's tale of Adam and Eve, Adam is created before the garden?

But I've sidetracked us here. Truth is the ancient world including Abraham's contemporaries such as the Babylonians and Phoenecians (whom I bet would be the source of much of the Hebrew's scientific understandings) figured the earth was round. Really every successful seafaring nation embraced that notion and with the hebrews located just south of the Phoenecians (who traded all the way down the African coast) it would be no surprise that such notions would be passed onto them and recorded into their oral tradition.

the common people went on believing in flat earth longer after 4 BC.

Of course they did. The Phonecians were merely suicidal madmen who wanted to sail off the edge of the earth because they feared the wrath of Yahweh's chosen brood.

 

[silver wind]

Please guys, remember, this thread is not 'religion vs science'.
I don't want it to be locked.
I'm still waiting for an answer to my question in the first post.

Christians believe that Jesus rose from the dead and revealed himself to a vast number of people.

Hmm.. After some search, I found one reference to this, saying 3 people saw it. An other reference speaks of 11 witnesses. I believe they were his disciples and his mother.
No offense, but you understand it's hardly a group of objective people.
We know about this event because a single person wrote it in a book 100 years later. So, how is this different from Muhammad or any false profit along the history? One person says it happened. Even if he told the truth, we can't fully trust those 11 people. They clearly wanted this to be true, this could be an exaggeration of things (like someone dreamed about this and the 10 others believed him), and there is a small chance they all cooperated and decided to lie. Don't compare this to 3 millions of Jewish people on Mt.Sinai, who had no motivation to lie, and the chance of all of them cooperating in a lie is not likely.

@Captain Murphy
I stand corrected. It seems like I fell victim to the 'myth of the flat earth'. (the idea of the flat earth being a common belief in early times)
I don't know who the Phonecians are (I guess we have some other name for them), but I understand people at early times did not venture too far from land. They sailed along the coast line. Their ships were not suitable for long journeys anyway, like proved from the (real) story about Columbus.

About the sky and water, read the text again. The sky is in the middle, there are water below it- the sea, and water above it- in the stars. It doesn't say the sky is water. I didn't get your second question about Adam.

Question num. 2
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Another one to Christianity :
You Christians accept the Jewish Bible as true, and you claim Jesus was a profit.
However, the bible says clearly, that when a person who claims to be a profit makes miracles as a proof we should change the religion(even a small part of it), He/She is a false profit and his punishment is death.
In the same place, we are warned not to worship 'other G-ds'. You have 2 of them, Jesus and his mother(is it Marry or Maria?). You pray and bow to them. How do you explain that?

 

[Incognitus]

Don't compare this to 3 millions of Jewish people on Mt.Sinai, who had no motivation to lie, and the chance of all of them cooperating in a lie is not likely.

Did those 3 millions of Jewish people even stand on Mt. Sinai? Where is the proof they did?

Besides, surely only Moses was the guy who got to see the really interesting things - the rest just saw a man go up (Or "into" depending on the translation and how far in history you want to go back) a mountain for several hours and come back down with a list of rules? Then get pissed about the golden calve.

In fact, while we're at it and this ties into my original question: where do you think Mt. Sinai is?

The idea of Jesus being the incarnation of G-D. Why, according to Christianity, G-D wanted to restrict his power, and 'lower' himself to be a human that spends his time on eating, sleeping, and so on?
What was his purpose and why did he let himself die?

Redemption and sacrifice. Love... etc etc. The reasons stated are often diverse - especially as there is a lot of difference between various interpretations of the incarnation, so unless there is someone like jacob who comes back to give his interpretation, straight off giving an answer is fruitless. If you're really interested you should google it - I'm reading some interesting articles right now about it.

I suppose it's the same reasons the story of Abraham and Issac only makes tentative sense.

You Christians accept the Jewish Bible as true, and you claim Jesus was a profit.
However, the bible says clearly, that when a person who claims to be a profit makes miracles as a proof we should change the religion(even a small part of it), He/She is a false profit and his punishment is death.

How will you recognize the Messiah when they show up? I'd just assume that Christians are satisfied that Jesus fulfilled the prophecies of the coming of the messiah - and therefore doesn't qualify as a guy who should be stoned to death. But of course, one could argue that the end of the story sort of subverts this idea dramatically.

In the same place, we are warned not to worship 'other G-ds'. You have 2 of them, Jesus and his mother(is it Marry or Maria?). You pray and bow to them. How do you explain that?

Catholicism. Not directly interchangeable with Christianity.