Dead Space
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`~congresman Ron paul~~":1ywo662u said:
No, you're not getting what i'm saying. Phase said he's not interested in getting the game anymore after hearing that an anime's been made about it. In my assumption, he said that because most anime-based games or any games for that matter with an anime somewhere down the line is shitty like u said. I was saying don't think of it as an anime-based game, because the quality of the game isn't like most of them. Dead Space is a very good game. Did I clear things up now.
Phage the Untouchable":3uau2i8n said:
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There's 4 .hack original series games:
.hack//Infection
.hack//Mutation
.hack//outbreak
.hack//Quarantine
and 3 in the sequel series:
.hack//G.U: Rebirth
.hack//G.U: Reminisce
.hack//G.U: Redemption
and I have all of them :X
This thread makes me lol
So does this video.
I'm predispositioned to not like Dead Space because it's another goddamn FPS about space marines fighting space aliens in space. And after what you fuckers did to Turok you gotta lot of apologizing to do.
The fact that they made an anime makes it worse. Not the quality of the game, just the developers who thought that'd be a good idea.
So does this video.
I'm predispositioned to not like Dead Space because it's another goddamn FPS about space marines fighting space aliens in space. And after what you fuckers did to Turok you gotta lot of apologizing to do.
The fact that they made an anime makes it worse. Not the quality of the game, just the developers who thought that'd be a good idea.
The main character can distort time. Chrono Trigger is an RPG that's about time travel. It's not the best allusion but it's pretty obvious.
It's not about where you fight aliens, as I had some good times on Halo and Zebes. It's that there are a lot of games out there where you fight aliens on some deserted location that usually isn't Earth. And I'm personally tired of seeing the same old setting. I'd like more variety.
And though the game isn't what I expected it's not hard to get the impression as the game looks like Halo, Turok, Prey, Doom, Quake, Unreal, F.E.A.R., whatever. It's good that not all action/shooters are like this (TF2, Max Payne, and Bioshock), and some of them I really enjoy (Half-Life, Prey, Halo) but really, how many times do I have to explore an abandoned space station filled with monsters/aliens/whatever in the middle of nowhere?
It's like JRPGs, I'm tired of playing some spunky anime hero on a quest to save the world.
But since you asked nicely, how about an action shooter game like assasin's creed but set in contemporary times. What if you had to kill a target with a sniper rifle, someone you might have mixed feelings about killing, and then you shoot your way through the guards.
Or what about warhammer 40k with shooter/action aesthetics? That has orcs/elves/demons AND guns. Legendary sorta has this going, but not really. What if I were shooting amorphous blobs that have to be taken down swiftly or they'll morph together and make stronger enemies? I dunno, now I'm throwing stuff out there.
If I were to really think about it, I couldn't come up with anything that wouldn't be totally from left-field (Silhouette Mirage anyone?) So I guess really what I'd like to see is wildly different ways of approaching gameplay.
It's not about where you fight aliens, as I had some good times on Halo and Zebes. It's that there are a lot of games out there where you fight aliens on some deserted location that usually isn't Earth. And I'm personally tired of seeing the same old setting. I'd like more variety.
And though the game isn't what I expected it's not hard to get the impression as the game looks like Halo, Turok, Prey, Doom, Quake, Unreal, F.E.A.R., whatever. It's good that not all action/shooters are like this (TF2, Max Payne, and Bioshock), and some of them I really enjoy (Half-Life, Prey, Halo) but really, how many times do I have to explore an abandoned space station filled with monsters/aliens/whatever in the middle of nowhere?
It's like JRPGs, I'm tired of playing some spunky anime hero on a quest to save the world.
But since you asked nicely, how about an action shooter game like assasin's creed but set in contemporary times. What if you had to kill a target with a sniper rifle, someone you might have mixed feelings about killing, and then you shoot your way through the guards.
Or what about warhammer 40k with shooter/action aesthetics? That has orcs/elves/demons AND guns. Legendary sorta has this going, but not really. What if I were shooting amorphous blobs that have to be taken down swiftly or they'll morph together and make stronger enemies? I dunno, now I'm throwing stuff out there.
If I were to really think about it, I couldn't come up with anything that wouldn't be totally from left-field (Silhouette Mirage anyone?) So I guess really what I'd like to see is wildly different ways of approaching gameplay.
The magnitude of the engineer's time distort power extends to being able to fire a stasis field which slows targets down and thats it.
The setting spans an entire ship, which makes sense as he is a engineer and the final level spreads to the planetary colony below. Besides this arguement can be used for and against. I personally am sick of earth, I was born here, I live and work here, what I want to see is something farther away.
Some of those games I believe have no place to be placed alongside. Halo? Besides the fact that, the hero wears a helmet and there is lasers, I don't see anything else. The only real reference is Doom 3 and Resident Evil 4, which combines the scary atmosphere and great gameplay. Also its a horror game, I'm afraid nothing promotes fear more than the feeling of being completely alone.
I like your ideas!
All in all it comes down to personal opinion. That's all I can say.
The setting spans an entire ship, which makes sense as he is a engineer and the final level spreads to the planetary colony below. Besides this arguement can be used for and against. I personally am sick of earth, I was born here, I live and work here, what I want to see is something farther away.
Some of those games I believe have no place to be placed alongside. Halo? Besides the fact that, the hero wears a helmet and there is lasers, I don't see anything else. The only real reference is Doom 3 and Resident Evil 4, which combines the scary atmosphere and great gameplay. Also its a horror game, I'm afraid nothing promotes fear more than the feeling of being completely alone.
I like your ideas!
All in all it comes down to personal opinion. That's all I can say.
I'm just being a douche. Anyway...
@Berserker: I'm assuming you've never played Halo. While it may look like it has nothing in common other than a sci-fi element, there's an aspect of Halo outside of the aliens and covenant that's similar to Dead Space and Resident Evil. Just look up "The Library."
@Venetia: It was never an argument about what's good and bad, it's always been me saying how tired I am of the sci-fi action/shooter setting. I got the details wrong, but I'm still bored of seeing space dudes shooting space monsters. And a difference in gameplay can be fun without revolutionizing the industry.
It all feels like the developers went with the setting they chose because it's a guaranteed sale. That can work well a lot of the time, but it immediately turned me off and I suspect there are other people also who only gave the game a cursory glance and came to the same conclusion. And, I posit that had the game presented itself as sci-fi action/horror/shooter in a new or interesting way then people wouldn't make so many parallels to so many other games of the same genre.
@Berserker: I'm assuming you've never played Halo. While it may look like it has nothing in common other than a sci-fi element, there's an aspect of Halo outside of the aliens and covenant that's similar to Dead Space and Resident Evil. Just look up "The Library."
@Venetia: It was never an argument about what's good and bad, it's always been me saying how tired I am of the sci-fi action/shooter setting. I got the details wrong, but I'm still bored of seeing space dudes shooting space monsters. And a difference in gameplay can be fun without revolutionizing the industry.
It all feels like the developers went with the setting they chose because it's a guaranteed sale. That can work well a lot of the time, but it immediately turned me off and I suspect there are other people also who only gave the game a cursory glance and came to the same conclusion. And, I posit that had the game presented itself as sci-fi action/horror/shooter in a new or interesting way then people wouldn't make so many parallels to so many other games of the same genre.
well there are only so many environments you can set a thing in if you want realism.
space: hyper future
space: alien (time setting varies, usually still hyper future)
modern times: civilized cities, usu. american
modern times: middle east or third world
war setting: usu. jungle, desert, or wartorn city
"old times": pre-WWII era, usu. a city like new york
"old times": wild west
medieval: sometimes fantasy (elves), sometimes realistic (no elves)
ancient: usu. egyptian or aztec civilization
modern: ancient ruins
modern/futuristic: snowy setting
futuristic: post-apocalypse
modern: post-apocalypse
Some games fall outside these settings, but the ones listed above are pretty much the tried-and-true.
Sure, you can make a game about a chinese diplomat visiting mars 5000 years ago, but it would probably be pretty boring (no air, no life, and how the fuck did he get there).
there are settings that haven't been touched on much, like caveman times, or the renaissance eras, or settings like spain, india, or northern europe.
but if you were in space, it sorta makes sense that you'd either be fighting aliens or robots. i mean you could fight other humans, but there's nothing new or different about that.
so i'm just trying to figure out here what could possibly be new, revolutionary, or creative, about a setting and an enemy today, as long as you're striving for realism. almost all of it's been done :/
dead space has very good mechanics and plays very well. and there actually is a very interesting aspect to the aliens that sets them apart from regular aliens. so it's a good game. it doesn't have to be about a turkey floating in a pile of jell-o during the revolutionary war, because unique doesn't always mean good :/
space: hyper future
space: alien (time setting varies, usually still hyper future)
modern times: civilized cities, usu. american
modern times: middle east or third world
war setting: usu. jungle, desert, or wartorn city
"old times": pre-WWII era, usu. a city like new york
"old times": wild west
medieval: sometimes fantasy (elves), sometimes realistic (no elves)
ancient: usu. egyptian or aztec civilization
modern: ancient ruins
modern/futuristic: snowy setting
futuristic: post-apocalypse
modern: post-apocalypse
Some games fall outside these settings, but the ones listed above are pretty much the tried-and-true.
Sure, you can make a game about a chinese diplomat visiting mars 5000 years ago, but it would probably be pretty boring (no air, no life, and how the fuck did he get there).
there are settings that haven't been touched on much, like caveman times, or the renaissance eras, or settings like spain, india, or northern europe.
but if you were in space, it sorta makes sense that you'd either be fighting aliens or robots. i mean you could fight other humans, but there's nothing new or different about that.
so i'm just trying to figure out here what could possibly be new, revolutionary, or creative, about a setting and an enemy today, as long as you're striving for realism. almost all of it's been done :/
dead space has very good mechanics and plays very well. and there actually is a very interesting aspect to the aliens that sets them apart from regular aliens. so it's a good game. it doesn't have to be about a turkey floating in a pile of jell-o during the revolutionary war, because unique doesn't always mean good :/