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Cross Dressing - Weird?

Dissonance":11jfdh69 said:
Cassy, you are making your judgments based on preconceived cultural notions that you were raised with.  Rather than looking at the topics LOGICALLY and WITHOUT BIAS you are believing that the notions of morality that you've learned from your upbringing are both natural and universal, when they obviously are not.

I'm sorry, but what exactly is so illogical about thinking in a fashion that takes our current-day (and dating back to god-knows-when) cultural trends into consideration?
It seems to me that disregarding these things is slightly more illogical.
It's 2008 and crossdressing is weird.
 
Cruelty":2jdvo8xm said:
Dissonance":2jdvo8xm said:
Cassy, you are making your judgments based on preconceived cultural notions that you were raised with.  Rather than looking at the topics LOGICALLY and WITHOUT BIAS you are believing that the notions of morality that you've learned from your upbringing are both natural and universal, when they obviously are not.

I'm sorry, but what exactly is so illogical about thinking in a fashion that takes our current-day (and dating back to god-knows-when) cultural trends into consideration?
It seems to me that disregarding these things is slightly more illogical.

'Taking them into account' is illogical in itself because it simply says "Let's continue to think this way because we always have."  It's a logical fallacy called 'appeal to tradition'.

The only reason Cassy (and you) have offered as to why cross dressing should be considered weird is because it was considered weird at some point in our past, and we should therefore continue that tradition.

That doesn't cut it.
 
Allowing women to walk alone to a store, or socializing with other women, or even to talk to men who weren't of family was weird at one time.  Why?  Because the ignorant assumed that's how it was, hence should always be.  And someone said, I'm sure, it's 1408 and female power is weird.
 
Anorexics
It's their body, they can do what they like with it. It's not healthy, and yes we can help them - with their permission, but it's not exactly "wrong".

Forgive me for being removed but I have no idea what that means.

Furries (Thanks for the idea)
Depends. If by this you mean they have fetiches for fur then fine, but if they start screwing animals without consent then that's wrong as it's rape. But if the animals give consent :)p), then nobody's getting hurt.

Loliconiacs
Again, if it's just looking at it then whatever, it's drawings, it's not like real kids are being abused. But the minute a real kid is involved, yes it is wrong, as it hurts someone else.

Barely dressed people in public
Nothing wrong with this at all. Hell, we should be allowed to walk around completely undressed if you ask me.

"Oh noes, my kid saw a woman's pubes! The world is going to end!" it's not like he's not gonna see that (and do stuff with that) later in his life anyway.

People eating their own fecal matter
While it's disgusting IMO, some people like that, and it's their bodies so their choice. I wouldn't recommend it as it spreads disease and all sorts, but in the end it's their choice.

Suicidal people
This IMO is wrong, and these guys (or gals) should be helped. Hence why I said "most of".

People who run around naked around stonehenge
No problem with this. (And wtf's stonehenge got to do with anything?)
 
It's just the outfit, and I can't see anything wrong with that.
Body is an art so cross dressing should never be a big deal.
I dunno why lots of people looks at it negatively. Sigh.... ~~♫

No matter how you will look like.
The thing that matters is the way you carry yourself with it. :dead:
 
Cross dressing is strange, but it shouldn't illegal or anything. Woman often wear the exact same clothes as men (jeans and a t-shirt), so why can't men do the same? But, the reason it looks strange is because its not normal. And, just for you people who want to say "But what defines normal?", I'm defining normal as acceptable by a large portion of society.

Sex changes, on the other hand, are wrong. You can't be "a woman born into a man's body". You are what you are. If you are a man, but you THINK you are a woman, that doesn't make you a woman. Having a sex change would be no different than having a dolphinplasty.
 
Sex changes, on the other hand, are wrong. You can't be "a woman born into a man's body".

I know I'd be a woman if someone gave me the choice. Not because I think I am a woman, but because I want to be. It'd be a hell of a lot more fun, and well, guys are icky. :p Does that make me "wrong"? Like the dolphinoplasty, if they want it, why not? People have tatoos, they're permanent and cost a lot of money. People have boob jobs, face transplants, butt tightening, lipo suction, etc. So why not sex changes?
 
kaze950":3ulbnkeu said:
I'm defining normal as acceptable by a large portion of society.

If this is true, then where is the logical connection between "X is normal" and "we should do X"?  Just because something is normal and done by the majority of the population doesn't mean it's a good example to go by.

kaze950":3ulbnkeu said:
Sex changes, on the other hand, are wrong. You can't be "a woman born into a man's body".

How would you even know?
 
I'm defining normal as acceptable by a large portion of society.
Come down to where I live.  Being white is not acceptable by a large portion of the society here.  If your white, have fun being wrong.

Sexism, racism, all that jazz.  ALL CONSIDERED NORMAL by society at one point, or still is.  There are pockets of people, with their own cultures and subcultures and everything, who would define a computer to be wrong, destructful, and something that shouldn't be - like a bad South Park reference.

Notice the trend that the society norm does not equal universal truth, right?  If a society declares it fine to rape women whenever you want, is that good?  Right?  True?  Absolute?
 

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