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Bisexual Debate, to celebrate Bisexuality Day

Heh, missed a lot,

Search for the X-Gen or something like it on google. I once read that they found some matching amino peptides almost forming some gen at 1 out of 2 gay people (thus: not bi, pan or whatever). Now this wouldn't mean that this is a gay gene, It could at best also be a gene that make the other sex hormone levels higher. Just to let you know that they DID do research on a gay gene, that they did NOT found one, but DID find SOME correspondence between SOME gay brain's physiology.

Either way. I still think 2 out of 5 people are at least bi-lovers. I met so many of them in every environment I come in. This counts for boys and girls by the way. It just seems that only a small number expresses him or her self to be gay, another small percentage acts but hides that they are gay or bi and another small percentage tells that they are bi. The rest is simply heterosexual. Well the truth is going to hit ya, they are not all so hetero as you think they are...
... Do you have that same feeling, do you KNOW that I'm right? or do you think that's all crap?

Oh, what does it mean when a heterosexual squeezes a questionable his ass? Not pat/frap/hit/kick but gently squeeze. I never get that.

Oh... about god-worshippers. I don't get them:

Gays should be Tattooed, says Priest

[Gays should be Tattooed, says Priest - Rev Peter Mullen]
A Church of England priest, the Rev Peter Mullen, who ministers in the City of London, has said on his blog that homosexuals should be tattooed with health warnings similar to those seen on cigarette packets and that homosexuality was "clearly unnatural, a perversion and corruption of natural instincts and affections, and because it is a cause of fatal disease". He wrote: "Let us make it obligatory for homosexuals to have their backsides tattooed with the slogan SODOMY CAN SERIOUSLY DAMAGE YOUR HEALTH and their chins with FELLATIO KILLS." The Bishop of London, the Rt Rev Richard Chartres, said the posting, which has since been taken down, was "highly offensive". The Daily Telegraph reports that the rector insisted that he meant no harm: "I wrote some satirical things on my blog and anybody with an ounce of sense of humour or any understanding of the tradition of English satire would immediately assume that they’re light-hearted jokes." The Rev Mullen, 66, was told on Friday that he could face disciplinary action. Peter Tatchell of gay rights group OutRage! said he should resign.


Gay couples reflect the love of God

[Gay couples reflect the love of God, says Rowan Williams - Archbishop of Canterbury]
Archbishop of Canterbury compares gay relationships to marriage. In private correspondence, seen by the Daily Telegraph, Dr Rowan Williams, leader of the Church of England and the worldwide Anglican Communion refutes the Church's traditional teaching that homosexuality is sinful. Furthermore, he expresses his hope that the Church will change its position to be more accepting of gay partnerships. His comments – made in a letter written shortly before he became Archbishop of Canterbury – will infuriate the conservatives who boycotted the recent Lambeth Conference in protest at the presence of liberals who elected Anglicanism's first openly gay bishop. Leading evangelicals have claimed that he is in an "untenable position". "The Bible does not address the matter of appropriate behaviour for those who are, for whatever reason, homosexual by instinct or nature," Dr Williams writes. "By the end of the 80s I had definitely come to the conclusion that scripture was not dealing with the predicament of persons whom we should recognise as homosexual by nature. I concluded that an active sexual relationship between two people of the same sex might therefore reflect the love of God in a way comparable to marriage, if and only if it had the about it the same character of absolute covenanted faithfulness."
 

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Gays Should be Tattooed - laugh. Thanks for that man; just come back to it any time you start thinking intolerance isn't funny.
 
well i'm a "god-worshiper", i believe that being gay is NOT genetic, but environmental(like personality, and other traits many people pick up as they grow), just like being straight  i also dont give a crap about what two consenting adults do.
 

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Bearrick":ovdpozpq said:
well i'm a "god-worshiper", i believe that being gay is NOT genetic, but environmental(like personality, and other traits many people pick up as they grow), just like being straight  i also dont give a crap about what two consenting adults do.
That would be fine if that was the case, but 40 or so years of human behavioral research has proven that there are genetic factors involved in personality as well. For some reason that is not a popular fact in the United States, but the science is pretty solid.
 
The US is founded on the belief that we're special, that our kids are special, and that everything we do is somehow in our hands.  Despite the blind sided arguments for being a nation under God (which really doesn't mean "under" as in below, but "under" as in FAVOR and CONTROL), which includes the whole deal with Manifest Destiny, we really do like to believe we are in control.  Of the world, of our nation, and most importantly of ourselves.

The idea that you can be anything when you grow up is instilled upon us at an early age.  We're practically told everything in our life revolves around us and our decisions and actions.  A puny thing like genetics greatly distorts that reasoning and blind faith in our own abilities.

If I'm not something because of myself, it must be for something else.  I must be able to blame it.
We get cancer because the world is being eaten alive by chemicals and we're ruining natural waste.  We get AIDs because we made a mistake, with someone who made a mistake.  Or we were innocent and someone else's mistake.  There is no finite on the ideology of control via blame here.  We bully the idea of genetic factors in favor of something tangible we can touch and resolve, if genetics is OH MY GOD in control of us, it challenges the idea of a non-offensive to the mainstream media super race we've built ourselves to be.

Shit watch something from the 80's.  We're so full of ourselves we won't let a simple thing like genetics stop us from blaming something else.  Especially if it's other people.
 
In other words, people want to blame something they can grasp.
Very few common folk - myself included - honestly can sit here and say we understand even 5% of genetic ideas.  It's much easier to blame a society (IE: environment), or disease that we got somehow for being dirty (IE: like the idea of leprosy), hell even God's wrath and the Devil's lullaby are easier things to understand and blame than another invisible thing we can't see, but weren't read to about as a kid.
 
On the note of genetics, I have a potentially interesting anecdote. My father is an anonymous sperm donor. I've never met the guy and know next to nothing about him, and indeed I only bothered looking at the little information sheet my mother has late in high school. Interestingly, he was a Ph.D. candidate in electrical engineering at the time he donated--and I only learned this after I'd figured out I most likely wanted to do engineering, probably mechanical or electrical. I'm actually leaning towards the latter now. *shrug* My mother did business and then real estate while I was growing up, neither of which I have the slightest interest in. Perhaps a coincidence, but conclude from it what you will.

Back on topic, I tend to find women considerably more aesthetically pleasing than men but identify as heterosexual. I'm in Wyatt's boat as far as experience goes, though, and I don't tend to be strongly sexually attracted to people in any case, so whatever.
 
Except, mark, people can grasp genetics, it doesn't solve your problem and would be an easier thing to identify as the driving force behind why certain people succeed over others.

And, by-golly it sure worked out so well for all those people living in Eastern Europe in the early 20th century didn't it?

Let's all manifest destiny THE FUCK out of Alfheim.
 
Except ixis, I was being facetious and targeting a particular group of people who down right disregard logic and sensibility.  And yeah, I don't grasp genetics.

You can't show me in a sequence what does what and expect me to understand it, and if you can oh so easily, your really smart :(
 

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It's not that hard to grasp, it's just hard as hell to remember the specifics. As far as a basic understanding of how genetics work, and even how DNA operates, that's something that is taught in high school and most people could understand if they tried to and cared to. When you have a strong religious movement in your country insistently barking that it's all a bunch of lies devised by science on behalf of the devil to mislead people from the truth, and that paying too much attention will surely damn your eternal soul, you may understandably not retain too much or really ever grasp for the bigger picture :/
 

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