Zeitgeist

[Xaixis]

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THIS MOVIE IS CONSPIRING BUT PLEASE WATCH BEFORE POSTING OBJECTIVE COMMENTS

I have just finished watching this movie and... well I cannot explain how I feel in one word. Before I watched this movie I've always had doubts about the US Government and 9/11 but still I could never place my figure on it. But after watching this... everything seemed to come together.

ZeitGiest is a movie about 3 things. Christianity, 9/11, and the Central Bank. It holds shocking truths about all three topics and will have you glued to the screen.
(I would not watch the Christianity part if you indeed Christian are easily offended, and or, if you wish to continue in your faith.)

I do not want to get too far into detail for it is best to hear it yourself from this movie.

I feel that this movie has great room for discussion and maybe and outside view of this standpoint. I admit that I am very naive and have a tendency to believe things that "sound" true.

So please, watch this movie and tell me what you think of it. I feel like I need some other standpoint of this information since I know of my weakness.

Link to Movie

 

[Sonata]

this shit is fucking insane

 

[Cruelty]

are you a happier person, having learned these things?

 

[Xaixis]

@Sonata: Good or Bad?

If you haven't watched the video then yes, it does look crazy and "oh the government is after me." But please watch the video before making the assumption.

When I was told of this documentary I was very skeptic and called him crazy. It took him 20 minutes to convince me to give it a look. So please do so.
Oh also, the first 8-9 minutes are somewhat boring, so please don't give it a glance then leave.

The movie even tells you that it does not tell you that it is not trying to get you to go against the government but rather to relay the facts to the public.


PLEASE, at least skip to part two and watch a good 15 mins. before you judge.

@Cruelty: What the fuck? Dude, it has nothing to do with that. Sorry to act all serious and all but PLEASE watch the movie before stating pointless snippets.

Also, after watching the movie I'm in more of a "serious" mood so I am sorry for lashing out.

 

[Mundane]

This is a fucking joke. I watched this, and felt the same way. The feelings will soon passed. You become everything they say is wrong when you believe this crock of shit. You've failed yourself Xaixis, just as I did and many others did who believed this fucking movie.

Don't get me wrong, the government is fishy, and 9/11 has its oddities, and I'm no Christian; but this movie is bullshit. I hope you can come to the realization that is.

 

[Xaixis]

Ok, I am confused, why is this bullshit?

I appreciate the serious reply and I do feel like I am typing due to the set of the mood but still.

Why is this bullshit? I would love to hear some evidence of this rather then a hunch. Actually I want to prove this fake for I am worried for the future somewhat xD

 

[FlippyD]

No, it's true!

Just like Michael Moore movies!

 

[Mundane]

It's ultimately going to be an argument on beliefs, and that is always a moot argument in itself. But have a few from a special I watched on the History chanel that proved almost every alligation from "Loose Change", another 9/11 conspiracy video.

- The jet fuel accusation is false. Sure JET FUEL cannot burn hot enough to melt steel. But that IN COMBINATION with explosions and fire set on various OTHER materials caused the structure to buckle and fold.
- The Pentagon accusation is false. A checkpoint security station secruity got a frame of the planes shadow just before it was about to hit the Pentagon, removing the accusation that a bomb went off rather than a plane.

Those are the only two I remember. The whole Bush accusation is kind of far fetched too. I mean, Bush is a cunt, and a moron, but this is just beyond him and any of the other dip shits in his cabinet.

The stuff relating to Christianity was the only part I still see being somewhat informative. Moot, but informative. Who cares if it is based off Pagan and Egyptian shit? It's just funny and ironic that they murdered and killed those believers that they stole the shit from.

The Federal Reserve section has it's truth. The system is faulty and shitty, no doubt. But the thought that rich men are war mongering is kind of rediculous. I have no proof that this isn't the case, but just use your head. When it begins to talk about the one world nation and 'chips', you just need to use your head. If they started chipping us all hell would break loose, and they know that. You should not be afraid of your government, your government should be afraid of you.

There's nothing I can say for you to see this movie any different. I had the same reaction as you. I was mad, shocked, and confused. It changed my views. I became cynical and almost rebelious. Then other catalysts changed my perspective. The movie should not be viewed as any form of truth, but as an alternative, a different view; only to be taken with a grain of salt. Taking in all this information is bad for you, and you should just CONSIDER these things to be true. Believing them is not a good idea.

As I've said, it's my experiences prior to watching it, watching it, and after that have shaped my perception and view of this film. My final word is just CONISDER it, don't BELEIVE it. Things are fucked up as it is, and if you dwell on this cynical shit, you will go nowhere. We are puppet people who feed off of conspiracy and the unknown; cut your strings, and set yourself free.

 

[FlippyD]

All documentaries favor a specific point of view, especially nowadays. If a documentary comes along that claims it doesn't favor one theory or another, just showing facts, then the creators are lying through their teeth.

 

[Mundane]

Such as Zeitgeist. They need to back up a lot of there shit with stupid people they call scholars, who are all senile old dudes who carry a Vietnam angst against the government. It's like the old guys that live in the desert and try and prove the lunar landing was falsified in a Hollywood studio. Watched a show that debunked those accusations, too. I <3 the History Channel.

 

[FlippyD]

Here's some good counter-points Xaixis, since you asked nicely (and your name is similar to mine):

Gauntlet Opinions
Wildcat Online
Penn & Teller

 

[Xaixis]

Ahhh.... ok.

You do have some valid points there. Thank you for shedding some light on this topic.

I look forward to more response to this. As I'm sure it can't be completely false. But you do have a good point as to consider the possibilities rather then to believe it.

But still, I have never even thought of 9/11 being an inside job. To me it was ridiculous, but this video, even if you say it is false, made me weary.

Now I am not going to be rebellious or paranoid. Not at all, I am just more open now because of this.

~Edit:

Ah ok, I look forward to watching those. Thanks Ixis!

~~Edit

Ok I read Guantlet and to least to say it calmed me down. Thank you so much for that piece of information for it really calms the subject. I still like the movie but now I see it of more of an entertainment video then for truth. Thank you for this citing.

 

[Mundane]

Not at all, I am just more open now because of this.

That's how you should be. That's considering. Believing is succimbing, which is no different than believing that it wasn't true, and that everything they tell is true (which it isn't).

 

[Xaixis]

And that is the reason I posted this because I have a tendency to be naive and believe to easily. So I knew I had to get a different opinion.

 

[Mundane]

You are wise. I hope you didn't take my first post too offensively. It was not intended to be that way at all.

 

[Xaixis]

Nah nah nah, in fact I was relieved to have someone respond so quickly. Because as I stated before, I know my weakness, so I wanted a different standpoint.

 

[united washcloth express]

If you look at what they said in part one of the movie, all of the correlations they made with other beliefs were false. They failed when they decided to make a video without doing research on things they were talking about before hand.

That being said, the only thing I agree with in this entire movie is that the Central Banking system does indeed suck and is based upon debt. Also, I can agree with how they negatively portray RFID/Verichips.

 

[DigitalAbuse]

Personally, I watched the movie, and I thought it was a great one. However, that being said, it is really all opinionated and sometimes made up. Everyone has  their own views on the attack, and their own opinions. An unfortunate attack, that is for sure. However, I will keep an open-mind and see what other theories people have on it.

 

[Xaixis]

If you look at what they said in part one of the movie, all of the correlations they made with other beliefs were false. They failed when they decided to make a video without doing research on things they were talking about before hand.

That being said, the only thing I agree with in this entire movie is that the Central Banking system does indeed suck and is based upon debt. Also, I can agree with how they negatively portray RFID/Verichips.

Now that is hard to believe that part one is false. I mean this movie has seen so many views and that is the most untouched subject. I remember many parts from bits and pieces of the history channel.

 

[united washcloth express]

Maybe watch part one again and do research into it instead of trusting an opinionated documentary then, and report your findings back to us?