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Was I Wrong?

Jason

Awesome Bro

Kaludan":222a6roj said:
This applies to a statement I've been hearing Venetia say more and more often: "1st World Problems, lol"

I found this in about 3 seconds.
http://www.whatsontianjin.com/news-3180 ... ework.html

Your father should have removed the door from it's hinges so he doesn't need to be sneaky. Having to sneak around in your own home is undignified. My Dad punched a whole in my door for locking it in his house. He was absolutely right because I was getting C's and spending all my free time playing EQ/UO and masturbating instead of doing homework and going out to socialize. Thankfully he forced me to do after school sports in High School so I was forced to socialize.

... Yeeeeaaaaaah. No. That's just wrong, punching a whole in your door is such a meat head thing to do, and the Chinese guy buring his son needs shooting, or burying himself...

I spent my entire high school and college life playing games, watching porn, sleeping in until like 3-4pm and goofing around with my mates... you know where that led me? Into a coma! ... albeit an epileptic coma which wasn't related whatsoever, but still! No seriously, I was lazy as FUCK but still managed to get A's and pass my college course with merits and distinctions, and I left EVERYTHING (Never handed anything in early or finished early) until the night before the deadline... so did my mates, and MOST of us were hitting all the high grades and everything, even our teachers and tutors were like "What the fuck how do you even manage that?!"

... Morale of the story: Don't think that goofing off and playing games will get you lower grades, since me and my mates (Like I said, most) passed with flying colours, and I'm pretty sure we were more sociable than you were, lol. (Not an attack on you or anything, so please don't take it that way)
 
the diff there jB was that you were making straight A's and Kaludan wasn't. the link to the story about the kid getting buried was a joke and he was saying that he is in favor of parents being strict with their kids when the kids are fuck-ups :P
 

Jason

Awesome Bro

Yeah but what I'm trying to get at, is that you can't say that people struggle in school BECAUSE they goof off and don't study at home... I mean, sure people will always think there's a relation, but I don't believe there is, maybe it's just me though, but the way I look at it, being strict with your kids, especially to the point of punching a hole in a door for example, isn't good for the kid at all, I mean, it's going to put them under pressure to try their best, and a lot of people can't cope under pressure... I can personally, since I'm pretty chilled out most of the time anyway, but there's some that can't, and even though it MAY be beneficial by teaching them to work under pressure (It'll be needed in their working life depending on their desired job/career), it could lead to all sorts of other things, for example, a little extreme, but when I was in Year 8 (I was 13, work that out into US grades), some kid in the year below me (Year 7 duh, aged 11-12) ended up hanging himself a few months after starting high school and left a note behind saying he couldn't cope with the pressure of all the school work... sort of sad to see things like that happening to be honest.
 
people struggle in school BECAUSE they goof off and don't study at home
In the case of American middle/upper class children/young adults who do not have a physical or mental learning disorder, I feel pretty confident in saying this is 100% accurate. School is not hard. In America it's actually dumbed down so much that even the middle of the road kids can breeze through it. This creates a habit of goofing off and not studying at home so when college hits, which is also dumbed down in the US, learning to study at home is less the issue than the difficulty of breaking the habit of procrastinating and goofing off.

Having all this electronics and fun in your own bedroom is a new feature unique to this generation. (No the Atari 2600 is not the time suck equivalent of WoW). Books were the epitome of what you could do, alone, and in your room for extended periods of fun. It's created a huge generation of fun addicted shut-ins who reach out to a virtual world for self-esteem and validation. It actually reminds me of the Futurama episode talking about the Horrors of Robot Sex. http://www.myspace.com/video/futurama/anti-robot-propaganda/107984866 only link I could find =(. Replace Robot Girlfriend with the words Porn and Video games. Most parents don't know what the hell they should do as there is really no documented well known solutions. The parenting advice they learned from their parents certainly can't cover it.

I would much rather have a hole punched in my door than have them do nothing, as was the case with my brother who spent his entire life doing what my parents told him, and is only now getting a job as a teacher at 27. He still lives at home and is only now beginning to really work on having a social presence in the world.

I would much rather have a hole punched in my door than have what Venetia went through getting kicked out at age 16.

Instead my parents made me want to move the hell out, so when I could, I did. They also did it by never physically harming me or neglecting me anything. They were also pouring a considerably % of their income into my schooling at a time when they didn't have a lot of money.

If there is something that is being left unsaid, and the father is whoring the son out on the street to pay for his college against his will and raping him against his will(as opposed to being loved gently) please accept my complete apologies and I completely agree that this father is an asshole.....but then again.... the kid does still get a leg up on 95% of the world population by being a male with a college education which leads back to the original comment: "First World Problems, lol".

In regards to the 11 year old kid committing suicide, I truthfully have no answer. There is something about the culture that instills such horror in us that we would rather die than work a minimum wage job. I think it has something to do with the video games and movies where the good guy always wins. I didn't train for thousands of hours to save the world, to hand scrub cheese off a french onion soup bowl at my local restaurant. It could also be the fuel that makes 1st world countries 1st world countries. It is what makes every man strive to invent and/or change the world and never settle for the status quo of working your existing job, that pressure, the need to always be making some kind of progress.

My primary consolation to the OP is that your entire view and opinion of damn near everything will change once you start working, socializing with others who have it a thousand times worse than you, and dealing with adult problems. You'll realize that the primary enemy you are going to have in this world is going to be fighting boredom forever. At least your father cares enough to be a part of your life.
 
I have to agree with Venetia and Kaludan. At first like most of the posts here, yes I agree the father was wrong, but that's a surface issue. Venetia and Kaludan brought up all the underlying concerns that I couldn't agree more and I don't know how to add more.

I won't say exactly which stand I take about this because I just woke up and can't justify my point of view clearly yet, but a quick story from me is my pre-college exam in my final year of high school. My mother decided to sort out the fact that I have a distance relationship and proceeded to start a huge family drama - in the middle of my exam period, when I was trying to study. It spanned for the entire exam month, not just a day. I got less than optimal result than I wanted in the end, and here I am now, moved the hell out of my parents so that I can have peace to myself at last.

But if all that didn't transpired, I wouldn't be nearly as independent as I am right now.
 

DJ

Some guy that did RMXP before
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Parents can't just coach around their sons and daughters forever.
They need to leave them alone so they can do things on their own.

So yeah - I think you're right. Despite you just asked your father what he was doing,
Your father shat your feelings. That's such a horrible attitude as a parent.
 

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