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The clay is... more expressive... than...

I was wrong, they look worse than clay men. :x

The problem doesn't lie entirely in the animation. The main problem is just the form; it's too blocky, unexpressive, and it looks like something that could be thrown together in ten or twenty minutes.
 
Atemu":1wax4lur said:
Now I understand what my father means by, "You can't fix something that was born broken."

Your dad made me laugh, but the context you put that in makes it even funnier. Does all you ever do Atemu is insult people. How about giving constructive criticism, you make me sick as a global moderator by constantly insulting people even if their work is not good. No offense jbrist, but this is not even close to anything, I sprite better than this. And I don't sprite all that often. You should start somewhere else, make recolors, study the sprite structures, then start edits, then after you can do edits or even franken sprite, THEN try making a template... otherwise you come up with an abomination such as this... if it is even that. I don't have any suggestions on how to fix it, just start somewhere else because this will get you no where right now.
 

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That's an unfair generalization. All these mean dudes (Atemu, Despain, Teloch) are some of the most hard-working and levelheaded people on the forum. You've said less than she has, but you used more words than her. If you'd scroll up, you'd see that she did give advice. It's possible to be useful without being wordy; just take her comments now as a way of saying that the problem seems to be beyond help.
 

Jason

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Axerax":rhxutwot said:
Atemu":rhxutwot said:
Now I understand what my father means by, "You can't fix something that was born broken."

Your dad made me laugh, but the context you put that in makes it even funnier. Does all you ever do Atemu is insult people. How about giving constructive criticism, you make me sick as a global moderator by constantly insulting people even if their work is not good. No offense jbrist, but this is not even close to anything, I sprite better than this. And I don't sprite all that often. You should start somewhere else, make recolors, study the sprite structures, then start edits, then after you can do edits or even franken sprite, THEN try making a template... otherwise you come up with an abomination such as this... if it is even that. I don't have any suggestions on how to fix it, just start somewhere else because this will get you no where right now.

Wow @ Saying that to Atemu, If I said that to her I'd get banned, lol.
Yeah, I can edit sprites, I can franken, recolour, I can sprite onto templates.
But I've NEVER had luck with CREATING a template, so It thought I'd try one.
And with the help of people telling me whats wrong without being an ass about it, I can improve on it.

To be honest I think I'm going to just recreate it from scratch again, and make it bigger and move more unstiff. The reason I could only get it like that, is because the VX template hardly seem to move at all, but I guess once their moving it looks okay, lol.

Thanks for the help anyway Axerax :thumb:
 
I'm not even going to fight with you over this, I'll just bring up my views to an admin or something. Stay focused on this topic. I pretty much summed up what you all of you said in about 30 seconds it took me to write that paragraph, with a simple opinion about someone. Lets drop it and leave it. Period.
 
Uh... I wasn't even being confrontational about it, dude.  o.o;;;  If I was, I wouldn't've bothered with a response and just edited your post to something funny and humiliating.

God, why does everyone always think I'm angry.  T_T;;;  I'm not always angry.  I'm quite lovable at heart... :<
 
Atemu":94d6s9rv said:
Uh... I wasn't even being confrontational about it, dude.  o.o;;;  If I was, I wouldn't've bothered with a response and just edited your post to something funny and humiliating.

God, why does everyone always think I'm angry.  T_T;;;  I'm not always angry.  I'm quite lovable at heart... :<

I was speaking to Meik.

I don't think you're angry, actually i can be just as mean as you, I just am brutally honest about stuff and tell it how it is. :)

Anyways, Jbrist...
Keep doing your edits, recolors, and more... then get back to this. I'd be willing to help you "improve" on other stuff, but i can't help you make a template that is beyond me. Just give me a PM and I'll try to find a way to "help" you...
 

Jason

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Mundane, I wasn't intending on making it fit with the VX RTP, lol.
I just don't get how the tilesets go, I mean, how many autotiles has it got ?, Is there a limit to how wide it can be ?

If anyone would like to answer those questions, please feel free as it would really help me.
And also, are they just the normal 32x32 tiles ?

Thanks.
 

Jason

Awesome Bro

Infact, I have an idea for the time being.
Can a Mod/Admin please just lock this thread, I'll talk with Axerax, see if he can help me with anything as my spriting is kinda rusty as you can see lol.
And then what I'll do is ask the Mod/Admin to open it back up and show any improvements I've made.

Thanks for answering the questions Mundane  :thumb:

Thanks for the comments so far.
 
We don't lock topics simply because it's requested that we do so. If you simply stop replying, the topic will sink to the bottom. Thanks.
 
Atemu":gimd4p9i said:
Uh... I wasn't even being confrontational about it, dude.  o.o;;;  If I was, I wouldn't've bothered with a response and just edited your post to something funny and humiliating.

God, why does everyone always think I'm angry.  T_T;;;  I'm not always angry.  I'm quite lovable at heart... :<

Maybe it's because you came in and instead of pointing out why it was bad (sorry, it is bad) and giving real advice you just keep mentioning it's ugly and blocky. I think he gets it. He gets that you think it's ugly and blocky. It's unproffessional and just rude to be a huge dick about the flaws of someone's work. It's ridiculous. How about instead of saying "it's ugly and blocky and you can't fix it because it's so shitty and full of suck" (paraphrasing you), you instead suggest something like "it is ugly and blocky, I'd work on the proportions perhaps not make the arms so large in comparison to the rest of the body." You didn't have any constructive part to your criticism. It's pathetic.
 
Hey, how about everybody shuts the hell up about Atemu. Is this topic about her moderating abilities? No. Hasn't it been said to drop it? Yes. So. Shut. Up. Now.

Thanks.  :thumb:

Oh, and while you're at it, you can also look back, and tell us whether she actually tried to help, or not. Did she? What, she did? Oh, WOW! Jesus, people.
 

mawk

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Why do people think it's cool to flame Atemu? :x

The fact that you didn't shade it alone should be a pretty good clue that this wasn't ready to be posted.
Sounds like help.
That kind of shading is meant for rounded templates, not blocky crap.
Hey, isn't that a form of input too?

It's possible to be constructive without being sacrine. Maybe she kept telling him it was blocky and bad because, time and time again, he failed to fix the problem. Generally, if you point out a problem and it's still there after another revision, you point it out again until it's fixed.
 
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