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Tyr's Kingdom: Amulet Of Theos

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I played the demo.

Let's start with the story. In order to keep the story interesting, you have give the characters tasks that interest the player and make them discover interesting things. Now, avenging his father and the villagers surely is of interest for the character, but not necessarily the player. In order for this type of plot to work, the player has to care about the villagers and the main character's father in the first place. Obviously, "some bandits killed a bunch of people I don't care about and now I have to avenge those people" won't be a big hit.

You will need to breath life to the village first. Make it look alive and make the people there seem real. While punching chickens to death and dissecting them in order to recover a wedding ring is surely amusing, a load of fetch quests don't really help with immersion. Almost all villagers either offers you a trade or explain the trading mechanism. None of them seem to talk to you like a person or even display any kind of personality. As it is, the player won't really register them as people.

You will also need to establish some kind of relationship between the main character and his father. He starts right away telling telling his son to bring him some ore and he will make his son a weapon. I couldn't see any explanation to why the father decided his son needed a sword and why now would be a good time. Basically, it was just a trade item A for item B offering. It gets worse then.
Then he tells his son that he has a new task for him. His uncle is wounded in the forest and need help. He tells that to his son and asks him to find his uncle in pretty much the same manner you could expect a father to tell his son "now that you finished cutting some firewood, will you please go to the baker and buy some bread?" The mental image I got was him reading the letter thinking "I suppose we have to save him, oh well, I guess I send my son after we're done getting him a brand new sword."
None of that really sells the illusion that it's people caring about each other. If they don't seem to care about each other, why should the player care?

Now to the item gathering and trading. First of, there is a bug. You know the merchant that is supposed to give you 15 gold for a Tuna? Guess what, he takes 15 gold from you instead. Considering that you are specifically told that you should gather money by selling the fish this is not the best thing that could have happened. Fortunately, it seems selling the fish isn't needed at all. Buying ore for 5 gold, converting them to plates for 5 gold and then selling the plates for 55 gold each seems much faster and can be repeated infinitely. Since the Tuna work as a stamina replenishing item, it's probably a better idea to keep them anyway.

Mind you, the idea to let the player mine, fish, trade and whatever isn't by itself a bad idea, but you need to improve the system. Start with asking yourself what you want to accomplish with the system and design it thereafter.
 
@Crystalgate:  Good job leaving a helpful, constructive post, although I doubt arexandar will pay attention to it.  This project was doomed to fail since it's start.
 
Telling people to shut up isn't the best thing to do, I'll tell you that. You need to take people's criticism, or else you'll sound like a jerk. It's tough, especially your first game, but no one will respect you if you tell them to shut up.
 

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Dadevster":1lf6xuvs said:
wait, it isn't your first game? oops, sorry, heh. my bad  :blush:
...is it?
I'm confused  :crazy:

This is like his 5th "game".

Anyways, I hardly ever download a RMXP game so Ill try this just to prove my point.
 
arexandar":382en83e said:
um actually, ill read his post... so stfu please:)

I was being serious. >,>

@Moogle: LMAO... Nice name change Moogle.  I voted for this one too.  ^_^

@arexandar: Excuse me for being a "big fat head", but stop trying to post about new, bad games here.  You might have more luck in Early Project Development for half-assed attempts such as this one.  That demo might make the difference though but this project really does not sound like it's going anywhere.
 
im not acting like people are attacking me.... Im just saying that every single person that posts in my thread are saying things like, "Wow he sucks"

And i take things like im being attacked and harrased a lot because, i am just like taht... So dont get pissed off at me, cause im just standing up for myself....
Thanks?
 
Nobody is attacking, or harassing you. :|
Stop acting as if you are standing up against an army of bullies. You're not. If you continue to act this way I will lock this thread because this sort of conduct is frowned upon as well as being against the rules. Can't take the heat; get out of the kitchen. Can't take the criticism; get the fuck out of project discussion. :|
 
OMG IM NOT SAYING PEOPLE ARE ATTACING ME OR HARRASING ME!
I JUST TAKE ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE SAY BADLY CAUSE THATS JUST THE KIND OF PERSON I AM...

WAS IT CLEAR ON THE OTHER POST I MADE?

And why shud i be even taking this shit from people?
There shud a be a rule not to be so harsh. Wow, no need to be so bitchy:P
 
1.) Do not Complain about CriticismUpdated as of 5-26-08
The primary purpose of this board is not just to get your game out there for others to see, but also for others to comment on your progress.  If you can't take criticism, no matter how harsh or friendly it may be, then it's not a good idea for you to post here.

Also, just because someone gives you negative feedback, that doesn't give you a right to flame them for their opinion.  If you feel that the poster is giving you a negative response as a personal attack then report their post instead.

Lastly, do not request your topic to be deleted because you don't like the responses you get.  We won't do it unless it turns into a blatant spam and flame fest, and even then we will only lock it.

Obviously you cannot take criticism. For the record: NOBODY WAS FLAMING, ATTACKING, OR HARASSING YOU! You need to develop some thicker skin if you want to continue posting pieces for critique on this forum! Either learn to take people's criticism to heart and try to improve thusly, or just don't post anymore projects/resources/ANYTHING! Thank you. :|
 
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