The Metroid Series

[Axerax]

Hello,
I am a huge fan of the Metroid Series, I've played every single one of them and I am a dedicated fan of the series. Many people say it starts at Metroid: Zero Mission, then goes to Metroid, then Super Metroid is the true 3rd game, then the scenario for the Metroid Prime 1-3 series makes up the 4-6 games, next would come Metroid Fusion considered to be the Metroid Prime 4, but then Fusion could be a later mission after Metroid Prime Hunters, trying to explore more into the expansions of space for Metroids. Finally the game could be supposedly ended or cut short at Metroid 2: Return of Samus. There are about 5 different approaches they could take, maybe more I haven't seen, left with this stuff.

1. They could continue with the story presented at Metroid 2, where they gave Samus the identity of being an outlaw of sorts. And play with the storyline from there.
2. Continue from the Metroid Fusion Series, as Samus could continue to search more into the Metroids in other planets and other lifeform bases that are similar to Phazon and that of which were introduced in Fusion.
3. Continue her search for Phazon corrupted planets, not within the G.F.S.S (Galactic Federation Solar System) And try to continue her quest to save more of them, seeing the spread of goodness that the Chozo provided these planets long long ago.
4. Go with a fresh new scenario that was introduced in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, they introduced the "Dread Projects". It would be interesting to find out more about this.
5. Continue the Prime Series, but take a similar approach to the Hunters Scenario, but with more story and a deeper story.

There are quite a few other ideas I have, but I'd like to see what others think about the future of this spectacular series.

without further ado, DEBATE!
~Axerax~

 

[Anonymous]

err, I only love the games, but I have every confidence that the metroid series will continue for a long time just like it already has
just like castlevania and the mario series
there are endless possibilities because all you need are newer levels
more weapons and harder gameplay, and more blanks filled in the story.
remember samus is in space which is infinite (good thing for us metroid fans) meaning there are a hell of a lot of new levels and enemies.
metroid has always only ever given snippets of storyline so there lot's of blanks to fill in.

not much of an answer to your questions, sorry.

 

[Cruelty]

i wasn't even aware that metroid had a solid story line. i thought it was just made for good gameplay.

 

[Prexus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_series#Chronology_and_storyline

Fusion is the last game in the series chronologically. There are no more Metroids, and there is no more X-Parasite. The only remnant of the existence of Metroids is the DNA in Samus' body.

 

[Anonymous]

guess it's time to go inbetween other games, why can't they make it so 2 goes after 1 and 3 goes after 2 and so on.

instead of hey Im playing game 3 oh no the story says im playing game -4?

but metroid doesn't get affected by stuff like that, metroid is a fun game to play.

 

[Axerax]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_series#Chronology_and_storyline

Fusion is the last game in the series chronologically. There are no more Metroids, and there is no more X-Parasite. The only remnant of the existence of Metroids is the DNA in Samus' body.

I was reading that earlier, here is the exact chronological timeline:
* Metroid (NES) / Metroid: Zero Mission (Game Boy Advance)
* Metroid Prime (GameCube) / Metroid Prime Pinball (Nintendo DS)
* Metroid Prime Hunters (Nintendo DS)
* Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (GameCube)
* Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Nintendo Wii)
* Metroid II: Return of Samus (Game Boy)
* Super Metroid (Super Nintendo)
* Metroid Fusion (Game Boy Advance)

I do agree, but even if it is an "end" to the Metroids, there is always the possibility of an alternate universe with metroids or advance ones. Space is the infinite, there are real life accounts of the possibilities of other universes other than ours, most of this is simply speculations though, no hard proof, we know there are other galaxies, the possibility of another universe is not so far off imho.

The game series has plenty of blanks to fill, mostlikely, they will be working on Metroid Dread, which was announced for the DS in 2006, and remained in the shadows, until later in the series, metroid prime 3, there was an experiment thing that you can scan that said something along the lines of "Experiment Metroid Dread is reaching the final process..." so it could give way to a thing that takes place after Super Metroid since 2 and Super are connected due to the Metroid Hatchling, or right before it.

They also state the Galactic Federation was planning on creating a new type of metroid, as well the Pirates were too, so it leaves more blanks for story.

Lots of possibilities out there!

 

[Prexus]

They still need to explain what exactly Metroid Prime was. They never really do that in any of the three Prime games.

 

[MasterMind]

I just beat Prime 3, and it was crazy. I'll put my next info in spoilers just incase.

Spoiler

My thoughts are that Dark Samus was a newer rendition of Metroid Prime. It would explain that hand coming from the pool of Phazon at the end of Prime 1, if you managed to get 100% logbook and beat it under 20 hours. She can also manifest Phazon indefinitely, as does the Metroid Prime.

The Prime 3 ending raised more questions than it did answer, but I managed to only beat it with 74% in 13 hrs, so I have missed many things. I did kind of like the way they tied in Dark Samus to the Aurora Units though.

At the end of it all, I doubt they will just end it like that. It's like ending Zelda just because Ganondorf 'dies'. Yes, it is the end of the Prime series, but they will be making more. I can almost guarantee it.

 

[Marcus]

They still need to explain what exactly Metroid Prime was. They never really do that in any of the three Prime games.

Isn't it just the name given to the god-of-all-gods among the metroids?

Honestly, I can't follow the Metroid story at all and neither can I follow any of Nintendo's storylines. They try to hide little snippets here and there, but in some cases you miss huge chunks because a lot of the scans are one-time-only deals. Nintendo's plots remind me of the NES days were everything you need to know was found in the manual... except in this day and age, everything you need to know is found online.

Seriously, Wind Waker was stupidly simple: everyone forgot about the hero of time (Link) and the land was flooded to stop the spread of evil. "New Link" takes up the Master Sword and once again seals away the evil "entity" that is Ganon.

Somehow the internet turns that into 30 million paragraphs with in-depth research, psychoanalysis, and references to Carl Jung's theory on Anima.

way to go internet.

I want there to be an RPG again with no focus on plot or a completely ridiculous, absurd, surreal, or postmodern plot like Earthbound. No matter how you try to analyse it, Earthbound's storyline was completely out of context and there was no way to sum it up other than being "a series of obscure events, none of them connected yet all of them related." Maybe I should write something like that...

...how did i go from metroid to earthbound??

 

[jack_of_all_spies]

They still need to explain what exactly Metroid Prime was. They never really do that in any of the three Prime games.

Scan more shit. Metroid Prime is an advanced evolution of the phazon-enhanced Metroid forms- sort of the equivalent to the Metroid Queen with regular Metroids.

And yeah Metroid Prime 3 is pretty much one of my favorite all-time games now. It will be impossible to go back to any other control scheme.

Honestly, I can't follow the Metroid story at all and neither can I follow any of Nintendo's storylines. They try to hide little snippets here and there, but in some cases you miss huge chunks because a lot of the scans are one-time-only deals. Nintendo's plots remind me of the NES days were everything you need to know was found in the manual... except in this day and age, everything you need to know is found online.

Seriously, Wind Waker was stupidly simple: everyone forgot about the hero of time (Link) and the land was flooded to stop the spread of evil. "New Link" takes up the Master Sword and once again seals away the evil "entity" that is Ganon.

Yeah but Nintendo more than makes up for that with solid gameplay- and I would MUCH rather have FUN gameplay over hours of story (lol final fantasy).

 

[Prexus]

I don't know but Metroid's plot can either be really convoluted or really good.

Chozo, very mystical and scientific race, create the Metroids to Hunt and kill the X-Parasite on Zebes, under the guidance of Mother Brain. Space Pirates, lead by Ridley, attack Zebes for minerals and destroy all the humans and likely many Chozo. Samus, the sole survivor, is taken in by the Chozo and raised to be a galactic defender. She is infused with Chozo DNA to be able to command her suit. The Chozo, with their limitless knowledge of the future, plant items and upgrades for Samus to use in her pursuit to defend to galaxy (yes, this is the actual explanation as to why there are Power Suit upgrades on planets like Aether.)

Samus heads to Tallon IV, to investigate space pirate activity. She encounters Space Pirates, as well as Metroids, and the mysterious substance Phazon. After being Corrupted by Phazon, she faces off against Metroid Prime. As Metroid Prime takes its final breathes, it absorbs the Phazon from Samus' suit.

Samus is next lead to Aether, where electrical disturbances cut communications between Galactic Federation troops on the planet. She discovers that they have all been eradicated, and meets the single remaining Luminoth, the dominant race of Aether. He informs her that through some sort of power surge, probably due to the Space Pirates mining of Phazon in the area, the entire planet is split into two separate worlds. The Ing inhabit the Dark Aether, and are actively trying to destroy the Luminoth and succeeding. You destroy the Ing, and save Aether, but not before facing off against Dark Samus. Dark Samus is the result of Metroid Prime absorbing the Phazon from your suit in Metroid Prime 1. She has a lust for Phazon, and wants to absorb it all to become all powerful.

I haven't played Metroid Prime 3 and I don't want to spoil it so I'll just skip over it here.

Mother Brain at some point defects to the Space Pirates, possibly long before the attack on Zebes. She goes to SR-388, and begins artificially creating Metroids. Meanwhile, Samus is send to Zebes to purge the Metroids from existence (Metroid 2). She all but eradicates the Metroids. One Metroid, hatching just as she was about to destroy it, treats her like a mother and she takes it to the Galactic Federation scientists to study and analyze, to find possible positive uses for Metroids.

Activity of Mother Brain on SR-388 is found, and Samus is sent to stop her and the space pirates. She defeats Mother Brain, with the help of the Metroid baby (now grown up) who followed her to SR-388.

Samus is sent to a space station orbiting Zebes, in response to a distress call. The station has been infected by what you will later learn is known as the "X-Parasite", an organism specifically designed to destroy the Metroids of Zebes (designed by the Chozo). Since the Metroids were destroyed by Samus in Metroid 2: Return of Samus, the X-Parasite are in search of alternate organisms to feed on.

After Samus' first encounter with the X-Parasite, she is left in critical condition. However, a Vaccine is created using the DNA of the Metroid you saved in Metroid 2, to combat the X-Parasite infesting her body. Her Power Suit is corrupted, but remains of it are left in tact. Samus is now 1/3rd Human, 1/3rd Chozo, and 1/3 Metroid.

Samus sets off to defeat the X-Parasites on the space station above Zebes. She is confronted by not only the X-Parasites, but her X Infested Power Suit, now known as SA-X. (Samus Aran X) A formidable foe, not unlike Dark Samus. Samus defeats the X-Parasites, and SA-X, and opts to leave the space station as it falls from Orbit into the planet Zebes. She is confronted by an Omega Metroid (homage to Metroid 2: Return of Samus' class based Metroid Progression) and defeats it with SA-X's help.

The space station crashes into Zebes, destroying all remaining X-Parasites.

Due to the lack of Space Pirate activity in Fusion, I'm lead to believe that by defeating Mother Brain in Super Metroid, the space pirates disbanded their attempts to create Metroids and simply disappeared. So no more threat in the world of Metroids, and no more threat of X-Parasites, so no more Metroid games..

But as they've lead us to believe there will be a Metroid Dread series, and they've said that it comes after Fusion in the storyline, so no idea what's going to happen there.

 

[Axerax]

Metroid Prime: Mother of all Metroids, corrupted by Phazon, from a Phazon Meteor that crashed into Tallon IV 25 years before Samus's original mission for Metroid Prime, maybe more, evidence is unknown.

Dark Samus, spawned from the Phazon inside the Metroid Prime and in Samus's Suit, was the reincarnation of the Metroid Prime. Still corrupted by the Phazon, it used its knowledge about the planet Phaaze to start corrupting planets.

Later on in MP3, you can find a scan that shows a side view of the Aurora units, which I originally before even seeing this, reminds me of the "Mother Brain". Ironically, they are basically recreations of the Mother Brain, a mechanical defense device that is living just like the Aurora Units, one happened to be placed in Torrian.

Metroid Prime, Dark Samus, and The Aurora Unit from the Valhalla were all Linked, due to Ridley and the space pirates, who already wanted to study and use the metroids as biological weapons against the Galactic Federation agreed to help Dark Samus, but more like was forced to become slave guardians to the Leviathan Cores, which were used to corrupt planets and turn them into new "Phaaze-Like" planets.

Dark Samus is still Metroid Prime, just a new form, the plots from Echos makes her first appearance and shows what it and the Leviathans can do to planets, thus creating the Dark Aether and Light Aether, showing what these Leviathan's can do to an entire planet.

Ing were just a subcreation of what the Phazon can do, not a major plot of the series.

I beat Metroid Prime 3, at 98%, in 4 days. I even went back before I beat the game to get the upgrades, the last one I must have over looked.

 

[MasterMind]

Mother Brain at some point defects to the Space Pirates, possibly long before the attack on Zebes. She goes to SR-388, and begins artificially creating Metroids. Meanwhile, Samus is send to Zebes to purge the Metroids from existence (Metroid 2).

Only one thing wrong with that. Mother Brain goes to Zebes, and Samus heads to SR-388 in Metroid 2. Not a big deal though.

Again, I'll put my info in spoilers.

Spoiler

The last battle with Dark Samus in Prime 3 has you facing her alone, then she merges with one of the Aurora Units (Mother Brain). You face off on the planet Phaaze, where the entire substance of Phazon has originated. While fighting, the Aurora Unit takes on a familiar look to anyone who has played Super Metroid. A red brain. So, I think that Dark Samus was able to corrupt more than one Aurora Unit, since they can communicate with each other, and one was on Zebes.

 

[Axerax]

Mother Brain was the name of the Aurora Unit on Zebes. Aurora Units are not Mother Brains, you had it backwards.
Remember that Zero Mission/Metroid 1 are the first ones, we did not know Mother Brain was an Aurora Unit then, now we do know, and realize now that she must have also been one of the first few ever developed, the GF must have realized their potential and also the potential risks that were developing on Zebes. So they placed her there. The space pirates simply corrupted the Mother Brain top assist them in their evil plans, so that is why she was bad, it was never said that she was corrupted by Phazon, or if a Leviathan even hit Zebes.

Was it fusion or zero mission that the final boss was actually the Omega Metroid, I want to say Fusion, because it was the development of experiments from the Space Pirates. Though I could be wrong.

 

[Marcus]

jesus christ this proves my point entirely!

Was it fusion or zero mission that the final boss was actually the Omega Metroid

You mean the gigantic blobby red dinosaur thing where samus (once again) RAWR SUPER SAIYAN and powered up and shit? fusion.

 

[Anonymous]

I LOVE SAMUS... ahem, sorry

 

[Link in Pink]

Oh gotta love the Metroid series. I'm a big Nintendo fan, and it's one of my favorite franchises. I beat MP3 recently, and it was AWESOME. Better than Halo if you ask me :D

 

[Anonymous]

haven't played prime 2 or 3 as my gamecube went bust since I got it back I haven't thought about it until now, off to the shops tomorrow.

 

[Prexus]

jesus christ this proves my point entirely!



You mean the gigantic blobby red dinosaur thing where samus (once again) RAWR SUPER SAIYAN and powered up and shit? fusion.

The Omega Metroid in Fusion wasn't a blobby red dinosaur.

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Metroid II: Return of Samus first introduced the Metroid evolution hierarchy. The Omega Metroid in Fusion was simply an homage to that, since it never appeared in any other Metroid game except 2, despite being an huge part of Metroid culture. Also, Samus didn't go 'RAWR SUPER SAIYAN'. She was very debilitated throughout the whole game, having her power suit removed and all access to her Chozo upgrades. She made due with the Galactic Federation downloaded upgrades, such as the Ice Missiles. When SA-X jumped in to help her fight the Omega Metroid, she got access to her Chozo abilities as well as the Galactic Federation abilities.

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Mother Brain was originally an advisor for the Chozo.

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And part of Zebes, not an Aurora at all. Why Mother Brain became an Aurora isn't really specified anywhere. It likely had something to do with Phaaze and why the Chozo no longer exist, and why Mother Brain has such high knowledge of Phaaze and Phazon.

 

[Axerax]

Yep you are right on the money there. Basically she got everything back she originally had, plus some extra goodies from the GF. MP3 introduced Metroid Hatchers, which spawned metroids. As well, they introduced walking metroids, which used claws and teeth to slash, bite, and drain enemies life away. They are slowly introducing more story lines for the metroids themselves than they did in the past, Omega was just the precursor of maybe bigger things. Hell, Metroid Prime could possibly not be the biggest and baddest of all metroids, as we see here in Fusion.

I just wonder if the Dread Project, will play off of these things, or go more of a route of what the space pirates did to metroids on further experiments. I mean, they took Tallon IV creatures, Aether Creatures, and many others, but in MP3 you can scan things that reveal they were taken to a different location, where is unknown.