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"The Kingdom" as it now stands.

This thread is addressed to the more senior members of the forum (the "oldbies" if you will). Those of you who have not been around so long, please feel free to add your input as you see fit in accordance to your attendance to the forums.

I recall the days of RMXP.net which some could call one of the first forums to primarily focus on RMXP amateur/commercial game design. I came around about a year or so after .net was created, since then I've seen the good, the bad, and the ugly of not only RMXP games but forum mannerisms as well. I'll pass on the history lesson that led from .net to .org, but some of you remember the events that took place to get us where we are in "The Kingdom" (a reference for those of you who recall "Erk stole the kingdom") of RMXP.org.

The actual purpose of this topic? I would like to know how you guys feel about RMXP.org as it is today.

Has there been a significant change in the way we design our RMXP games?
Has forum behavior altered?
How do you feel about the current moderation staff?
Overall has the forum improved?

Disclaimer:
Please take thought in what you post as there may be some controversial issues, and I'd hate for administrative action be carried out on someone on my behalf. I am simply curious in what your opinions are. I am no undercover moderator, nor have I ever been part of the staff. I am not "in tight" with any of the staff members, so do not feel intimidated in any way. I would also like to state that this is no attempt at "trolling" or telling the staff how to do their jobs.

My personal thoughts, and I'll try to keep it short and sweet:
As far as game designing goes (excluding VX as I've never dabbled with it) I've definitely seen and improvement over the years in RMXP games. I've seen some very innovative ideas, which have even made me open my editor and play around. Yet at the same time, there still seems to be a consistent pattern of games that should never see the light of day and it would appear that critiques and support are not being taken to mind by some of the stubborn creators of today. I look back at the times when a side view battle system with static sprites and a few gradient bars use to blow the minds of some of the users. Today we've uncovered advances in how the engine itself actually works and have manipulated it to make games that could things we thought RGSS was completely incapable of doing.

Forums themselves have changed drastically. When I first came around there was a massive serving of humble pie in all of us, yet now I see a lot more arrogance. I've also notice a change in the way forum humor is conduct and judged from the looks of it. Sarcastic humor has always been a part of the forums. This is no secret. People like Despain taught us to laugh at ourselves, although at times he took a harsher hand then we could tolerate. It seems now this humor has been rather tasteless and extremely offensive where it was once subtle. Perhaps I missed the memo, but is it the new trend to call people "faggots" now? It's probably an inside joke, so I'll leave it be. It seems that a small percentage of the forums has form this group that consistently stick up for each other in discussions often resulting in teaming up against someone outside of the circle. I would think that such behavior would scare away users, but this being the community that it is, it continues to thrive. Personally, I don't feel quite as comfortable posting as I use to, but I still try to add my two cents in when I can.

Moderation has changed a bit too. There was a point where everything was strictly rules and regulations, but now it seems that there is some form of opinionated moderation. Now that's not to say that the staff makes bad decision, nor is it saying that mods aren't sticking to the traditional way of doing things. There have been cases where I've seen two people do similar actions and the moderation reacted in two opposite ways. For the most parts the mods continue to carry out their tedious duties and although a bit more unconventional than usual there are times when it has been very effective.

I can't say whether or not the forum has improved as the good and the bad kinda pull at each other with equal force. Perhaps we come to a stand still and are waiting for a revolution of some sorts. This forum is still a place I visit often and I enjoy reading most of the discussions (even some of the overly crude ones) and occasionally playing a game or two. Just thought I'd voice my opinion and maybe get a little feedback from my fellow users.

Please don't take offense to anything I've typed. I am in no way trying to call out anyone or bash the forums.

~Sincerely
 

Nachos

Sponsor

Has there been a significant change in the way we design our RMXP games?

Yes. Notice that almost all the games that appear on the forums are REALLY good quality games. Of course, there are some games that aren't that good, but it's clearly an improvement.
I haven't been around that much (almost 2 years next month) so I can't really say if there was an improvement from the .net games, but I'm sure the games are A LOT better now

Has forum behavior altered?


Uh mm. I can't really say about .net, but from what I've heard, yes.
In .org there were a lot of changes. Mods leaving, admin panel changes and stuff. *Fags/shitposters/necroposters/trollers have always existed and they will exists. It is up to the moderators and admins to decide either to encourage or not that kind of behavior.
We have always tried to lower the level of stupid people*, the only thing that changed was the way to proceed against them.

How do you feel about the current moderation staff?

They are great. I don't thing I have anything to complain about them. There's nothing really to complain about them.
I'm sorry if you think its rude to close your game's thread, but If you have taken 5 minutes, that wouldn't have happened.
There are a lot of people that should have been banned, and there were reasons not to do that.
The staff is great so read the rules and shut up. And get on IRC.

Overall has the forum improved?


People are saying .org is dying. It really depends from where you are looking. If you have just registered, it's a great forum ( you'll think that if you're a normal person, not the open-minded kind).
I'm not going to keep on typing. It's quiet obvious that I like this forum.

I've never said this, but sorry for my English. I know sometimes it's hard to understand me, but I'm trying to make my point clear.
 
This probably isn't the best time to pose this question. A lot of the staff and a lot of the members are out doing their holiday things. Right now the forums look pretty dead compared to usual. They always do this time of year. It'll pick up again around mid-January, like always.

I'd say that yes, it's quite obvious that things are very different from the ways it used to be. It's pointless to list through all the changes, because they should be immediately clear to anyone that's been poking around since ~2005-6.

One feature of the "current" forums, which I like, though it's concerning from an advertising point of view, is that the sentiment has shifted towards a more "in-crowd" kind. There are a lot of inside jokes, and a very easily defined "circle" among the more prevalent members. This doesn't necessarily mean OLD members, just currently-highly-contributory members (community-wise), and/or ones whose personalities really stick out among the crowd. It's fun, it provides a uniqueness, and gives personality to the forum.

A lot of forums have a faceless crowd and vanilla staff. A tour through nearly any forum would show occasional outbursts of 4chan humor, with a lot of overly-pleasant, personality-less commentary. You don't ever really get to know the members or the staff, and I think that really hurts the DRAW of KEEPING longstanding members. People here probably know more about me than my coworkers do, and you just don't see that kind of thing in every corner of the internet (let alone, the rm* ring).

I worry sometimes about the "inner circle" deal we have going though, because it can be understandably difficult for new people to branch out and try to "fit in". If I could change anything, I'd cut most of the really biting, derogatory behavior. I try to when I can when I see it brewing. But people should be allowed to express their opinions, and that's what makes the forum special, and that's not changing.


As for opinionated moderation -- it's not fair to stick to "the book". If I punished, say, Brewmeister (an ex-staff, who is EXTREMELY helpful and a wonderful, longstanding member), in the same way that I'd punish CloudxxxStrife228940 (a hypothetical member who is new and contributes nothing), all I'd be doing is lending a hand to Cloud while turning away Brew. You have to treat people -- not discriminating-ly, but accordingly, to who they are and what they've done to bring up the site. Some people don't like that. But they [likely] aren't the ones in the Report and Staff forums, dealing with the messes that people create.

We still have a lot of improving to do, I suppose. All we can do is just hang in there and enjoy the ride :)
 

PixeL

Member

From a new person's perspective, this forum seems to be run much more unprofessionally than many other ones (non-rpg maker related) that I've been a member of.  That being said, there are both pros, and cons to this.
 
It's definately changed, but in a good way. It's become more... I guess some would say "elitist", but basically most of the people who post actively are good at what they do and are actively helping members to improve, either by criticising their project threads or helping with graphics or whatever. It's become a lot more professional with the riddance of Recruitment boards, and forums such as Forum Games - which had their upsides but also let the forum down. Recruitments gave out entirely the wrong idea, and getting rid of that forum has meant members actually have to actively seek to learn the program (which it seems they are doing). There are a lot better projects than their used to be, even if it doesn't seem that way with the influx of new games out there. But new games are important too, they are actually getting the C&C they need now to improve rather than what happened to Final Fantasy Zero where the thread didn't change and the general shittiness never went away (opinionatedly speaking).

The mod team has definately improved. It's gone from a robotic system to actual members who care about the site and the members who post in it. They are trying their hardest to turn the forum around and it appears to be working (even if some trolls don't see it that way).

PixeL":3viku9g7 said:
From a new person's perspective, this forum seems to be run much more unprofessionally than many other ones (non-rpg maker related) that I've been a member of.  That being said, there are both pros, and cons to this.

By professionalism I'd like to know what you mean. Yes, the admin team here actually have opinions and won't hold back on those opinions, they'll take part in general community stuff such as C&C'ing project threads and offering opinions, but I see that as being more professional. The mods here won't delete or move threads that speak badly against them, (hell they won't even lock and ban threads in feedback like other forums say we do). The mods actually care for the site, they've been doing A HELL OF A LOT OF WORK lately to try and get the site good again with a lot of emphasis being put on constructing a working mainsite and MOVING TO A NEW SERVER.
 
The way the forums are run nowadays as opposed to as they were say some years ago during .net is due to the change in leadership. The forums are a lot more open. They used to be to strict back in the day about grammar and things like that. BUT they're way to open nowadays as well. I think I was like 13 around the time .net was around. I even still remember the weird skin it had. I met sharktooth there [[who would later become Mr.Mo]] either ways. Its not entirely bad. Its just another place. Sure you run into assholes here and there but you run into them in life as well. You can't really do much about it except just go on with your business. Back during the days of Ccoa and Tana .org was something else. Ccoa was pretty much on everyone's ass about the little things. But it did maintain order somewhat. She was the forum mom who was just looking out for everyone but I don't know what happened to her then. I left at that time and when I came back the whole place had changed. For the better? I can't say for sure actually. Its okay. But it could be better.

Cruelty":1hs82fok said:
lots of users/staff are much more unfriendly than they have to be most of the time. :{

This I have to agree with completely. I mean it is the internet and I honestly don't have to give a damn of how you feel about me or how I treat you but sometimes they are just a tad bit rude for my tastes. Its okay though. This place is still a great place and its the only real forum I enjoy checking daily.

But also some of the newer members are way to jumpy and quick to turn into "defense mode" or get a "snarky attitude" over the slightest "This doesn't look right." kinda critique meant to help improve rather than hurt. I'm going to go out of my way [[not to trash anyone par se]] but Nikki being the case. He jumps to defense mode rather fast for the smallest reason but I guess its because some of the people here are sharks and will attack you if you show weakness. Not to sure the case. There are other situations.

@Wyatt: That is true the admins and mods are more active than they used to be back in the day and show somewhat "emotion" towards thing. They make the place a little bit more fun but its kinda abuse of power at times.

Some of the sponsors are the same way. Some think they're better than others just because of the little sponsor badge below their avatar. But I like most of them actually.

Now I'll admit I'm not the greatest "member" here but I guess my growing up and getting used to the openess is a reason for my not so great posting. I used to abide by the rules to the teeth. I was scared of getting that pm warning from one of the mods but then things changed and well I am the horrible member I am today. :)

You do meet some good people on here though.
 

Kav

Sponsor

Commodore Whynot":3upu35v4 said:
By professionalism I'd like to know what you mean. Yes, the admin team here actually have opinions and won't hold back on those opinions, they'll take part in general community stuff such as C&C'ing project threads and offering opinions, but I see that as being more professional.
I strongly disagree here. Professional forums have respectful and mature admins and mods who don't shitpost ever, sometimes to the point of appearing robotic. However, "showing personality" has nothing to do with how professionally a forum's run. Power abuse and insulting members is not professional, either. I'm NOT saying all the admins and mods here are bad, but a large chunk of them could improve substantially.
 
Well, I've only been an active poster here since April or May, but I'll give my thoughts.

Has there been a significant change in the way we design our RMXP games?
I haven't noticed much of a change. The change I have noticed has been for the better though. I used to visit the Project Discussion forums a lot when I first came, and there would always be locked topics, horrible looking games and lots of new topics. The forums seem to have slowed down in the past few months, but it's not necessarily a bad thing, because it seems like the majority of games now are good quality and have had a lot of work put into them.

Has forum behavior altered?
It's definitely gotten a lot more laid back, which I like. I don't mind strict mods, and yeah, you're definitely going to have to be serious when doing your job, like locking topics, warning a member, stuff like that. But it seemed like most of the staff would only do their jobs, and would rarely do anything else. Having a more relaxed staff makes them feel more open and (at least for me) lets you fit in a lot easier. It makes them seem like they won't bite your head off for doing the smallest thing either.

My only major irk is the things mods do and say. They'll say a lot of things that newer members might find offensive even if they mean it as a joke. You have to be an active poster here for at least two months before you "get" a lot of the stuff that goes on around here.

How do you feel about the current moderation staff?
I think they're all pretty great. They're all open, relaxed, and fun people. I don't really have any major problems with any of them. I'm still a little confused about why Alexis is suddenly a global moderator, and I can see why stuff like this is confusing to newer members. Also, I think some of the mods should be a little more active in their respective forums (although a lot of this is based on recently, which isn't fair since it is Christmas so naturally everyone's going to be really busy) and try to promote good behaviours and constructive criticisms from members.

Overall has the forum improved?
It hasn't declined, but it hasn't improved really. A lot of good things have happened, like the deleting of Events & Contests and Recruitments & Classifieds (*shudder*) but at the same time it seems like a lot of the mods have gotten a bit more rude. Now I know this isn't always a bad thing, but I think we should all just lighten up a bit.

Makasu":3tiyekkl said:
I was scared of getting that pm warning from one of the mods but then things changed and well I am the horrible member I am today. :)
You're not that bad, especially in the Arts and Graphics forum. You're far from a horrible member for sure.
 
Dadevster":2zonl360 said:
You're not that bad, especially in the Arts and Graphics forum. You're far from a horrible member for sure.
Why thank you. :3 but trust me compared to how I was years ago. I'm declined seriously as a member. :( I even got a PM from Holly long 'go telling me that he [[she?]] was impressed with my posting habits. But now...they're more open and opinionated.

But its all good because I like this place nonetheless. Assholes and all. We're like an extended family to me. So we get a long. We also all generally have one thing in common: Gaming.
 

PixeL

Member

By professionalism, I meant the crap posting.  I personally don't feel the staff should be crap posting like that, becuase it encourages everyone to follow suit.  Also, yes, there's a place for opinions, but not so publicly.  That's just my view, and I accept that I can't control what the staff does, so I won't go on or argue about this.
 
It's generally mainly Despain who crap posted, and he's long gone now (hasn't been staff in ages) but I see where you're going. The majority of the staff at least try and be a bit professional about things.
 
Venetia":2rsms588 said:
As for opinionated moderation -- it's not fair to stick to "the book". If I punished, say, Brewmeister (an ex-staff, who is EXTREMELY helpful and a wonderful, longstanding member), in the same way that I'd punish CloudxxxStrife228940 (a hypothetical member who is new and contributes nothing), all I'd be doing is lending a hand to Cloud while turning away Brew. You have to treat people -- not discriminating-ly, but accordingly, to who they are and what they've done to bring up the site. Some people don't like that. But they [likely] aren't the ones in the Report and Staff forums, dealing with the messes that people create.

We still have a lot of improving to do, I suppose. All we can do is just hang in there and enjoy the ride :)

1st, thank you, I love you too.  :scruff:

2nd, I disagree. If I committed the same infraction as Cloudxxxwhatever, I would expect the same punishment. "Fair" insinuates equity. Sticking to the book IS fair. What you're suggesting is similar to letting celebrities / politicians get away with crimes that 'average joes' would get locked up for.
Mods should enforce the rules, to the letter, in their respective forums. Admins enforce the mods. Staff should be held to 'at least' the same standard as the population, if not a higher standard. Allowing interpretation & individual discretion & preferential treatment only promotes confusion.
Diversity & character come from the posts that happen outside of the judicial process.  Mods & SMEs have the discretion to help the people they see as being deserving, and ignore the trouble makers. Projects tend to attract support based on their own merit. Natural selection should allow the cream to rise, and the shit to sink, and for the most part it does.
If you want to change the general atmosphere, change the rules instead of allowing everyone to interpret them their own way.
Set yourself up with a staff that supports the philosophy and goals of the site overall. Certain people, no matter how much they participate & contribute to the site, just don't have the aptitude (or attitude) to be in a leadership position.

[/rant]

Has there been a significant change in the way we design our RMXP games?
Individually, I hope so. Everyone progresses & evolves as they learn. Collectively, not much. You would think that as the site matures, more knowledge would amass & improve the overall game making process. But, with the cyclical nature of the site, with newbies coming in & veterans either huddling quietly in their own projects, or getting fed up & leaving that knowledge is not being passed on. Partly due the the scattered nature of a forum. I think the website, if ever implemented will greatly improve the transfer of knowledge.
Has forum behavior altered?
Yes. And it always will. The trick is maintaining a balance somewhere between communism & anarchy. Right now, I'd say it's leaning towards uncontrolled.
How do you feel about the current moderation staff?
Most are doing a good job. All could benefit from more consistent leadership. But hey, we're all amateurs here.
Overall has the forum improved?
No. There have been some great ideas & plans but little has been done to promote significant improvement. It's pretty much the same place as it's always been, minus some beneficial functionality (download manager, etc..).
 
There have been cases where I've seen two people do similar actions and the moderation reacted in two opposite ways.

Can you provide the examples please.  I'm not saying it didn't happen, but from the user end there is a lot you don't see in many cases.  One person could've been banned because it was third accrued warning, while the other is given a verbal, "don't do that," because it was the first time.  To put it in brief a lot of moderating is contextual and to compare two similar infractions does not guarantee you are comparing two similar cases. 

Brew, I get what you mean on the leadership issues.  We've had a crisis that didn't really get solved until the beginning of November when Des was given the heave ho.  Since the new staff induction we generally have a staff that embraces the new philosophy quite well and I think it will lead to good things.  We have also begun taking time each month to evaluate moderator activity to see how they are working out in their respective places.  Otherwise I've been focusing on getting the phpBB3 board ready for the eventual forum shift.  The policy is kind've just maintain status quo until that happens.  We're hoping to get that done by late January. 

But I'd certainly like to hear more of what you guys want.  Frankly since the whole rash of changes to hit staff since the Des' departure the two main admins has become Venetia and I.  So don't be surprised to see some shifts in policy as we flex our own influence more and more. 

All that I ask as always is that it is thoughtful and backed up with examples.  Like if you are going to say staff shitposts too much point out what you mean.
 
hey i'm a main admin!!!

teloch actually put it quite well when he said i counterbalance the two of you

basically i'm here to make sure you guys don't get too out of hand with your faggotry :3
 
In response to the request of the admin, please do NOT post examples of such things in this thread. It was not meant to single out people, therefore I kindly ask you to not make personal references (such as the one in post #7). These types of things usually lead to back and forth bickering. Please PM your staff members for such issues.
 
Forums themselves have changed drastically. When I first came around there was a massive serving of humble pie in all of us, yet now I see a lot more arrogance. I've also notice a change in the way forum humor is conduct and judged from the looks of it. Sarcastic humor has always been a part of the forums. This is no secret. People like Despain taught us to laugh at ourselves, although at times he took a harsher hand then we could tolerate. It seems now this humor has been rather tasteless and extremely offensive where it was once subtle. Perhaps I missed the memo, but is it the new trend to call people "faggots" now? It's probably an inside joke, so I'll leave it be. It seems that a small percentage of the forums has form this group that consistently stick up for each other in discussions often resulting in teaming up against someone outside of the circle. I would think that such behavior would scare away users, but this being the community that it is, it continues to thrive. Personally, I don't feel quite as comfortable posting as I use to, but I still try to add my two cents in when I can.

I've always really, really disliked this. I've been a member of forums and the community for years now, and there's nothing I dislike more and find more alienating than the feeling that a forum has a strong 'in crowd' presence or that it's felt as 'elitist' by members. I've ran forums before and I've been a senior member of even more forums, and I've always strongly advocated a friendly, 'around the fire' type community where everyone has an equal say, and there's no overall 'feeling' or 'personality' that new members have to live up to. Unfortunately, things like arrogant, sarcastic humor, calling people faggots and niggers, and an 'inner circle' mentality has resulted in a lot of people feeling left out and reluctant to be a part of things.

I'm big on new members feeling right at home in a new forum and everyone in the forum being welcoming and friendly. A popular argument against this sentiment is 'Well maybe that's you but I like my forum and community to have personality and not be boring and super friendly all the time', but is having a personality and being honest and open mutually exclusive to being friendly and having an open community where everyone can fit in?
 
Has there been a significant change in the way we design our RMXP games?
I certainly think so. Excluding the "first games" that people make, I believe that there has been a definite improvement. If you look back on the older games in this forum (And I mean actually sifting through to find the ones considered worth playing at the time), you'll see a gradual improvement in what we can do with scripting and eventing, from the levels of people who had just transferred from a program that was similar but not the same, to some of the experts we have today. There are some wonderful things here that we didn't even dream of doing a couple of years ago. (Who can honestly dsay that they believed a useable Pokemon script compilation would ever be released?) Even so, the games that newbies  make are still what they've always been: short, poorly made, and thrown together. That's not to be mean, it's just simple fact. The newbies usually just don't have enough experience with the program to make anything on an acceptable level, but they are usually so into what they're doing that they feel they have to share it with everyone. I think that the point when someone transitions from being a newbie to a normal member is the point when they are able to work on something until it works, not share every detail while they are working on it, and yet also avoid flaunting that they aren't sharing everything.

Has forum behavior altered?
Are you kidding!? Of course it has! WHen you were a kid, do you remember how fast behaviors changed with the fads? I remember a couple of months in elementary school where everybody "itched" at their itches instead of scratching at them. How can you itch something? Online behavior is the same way. There are fads, and they come and go with time. A little while ago, we had warnings all over the forum that you would instantly be temp-banned for necroposting, because that seemed to be happening way more than usual. Now we have more problems with "shitposting", where certain regular members, including some staff, began to post useless, rude, and off-topic posts, just becasue everyone was doing it. Now the newbies are doing it becasue they see a lot of it, and they think it must be OK. I think (read: hope) that it's dying down, but I can't be certain, because of the time of year.

How do you feel about the current moderation staff?
I love 'em! I used to be on many other forums, and although the staff functioned, I never saw their real faces. The biggest forum I've ever been on was the official Nintendo forums, and aside from a few short-lived (paid) staff members, there were very few staff members who did anything other than their official duties. This place has staff who don't just get things done, but get them done with their own little twist. Yes, some of the staff has been unprofessional at times, but get over it. They aren't being paid for working here. They are just highly proveledged members, who just happened to shine, catch the eyes of the staff, and rise to glory. In fact, I'm pretty sure that none of the staff of this forum has EVER made any money for it. It's always been fun, and everybody lets fun get out of hand once in a while. Some people just do it more often than others. Let's face it, we've all been "unprofessional". The staff doesn't lose that right just because they have some authority. They aren't the president. They don't represnt the forums to the outside world, and they don't send ambassadors to other forums, start forum wars, or sign peace treaties with each other. Admittedly, that would be interesting, and probably fun, (Imagine summoning the hordes of two popular forums to do battle with each other on whatever game they played best, be it WoW, Halo, or Hello Kitty.)

Overall has the forum improved?
I'm not entirely sure this is a valid question. There are too many factors to chart it down as a general improvement or decline. The forum is what it's always been: a release, a place to share ideas with people who like similar things, and a place to have fun. I think that as long as people can still do that here, then this forum is doing just fine, and neither improving nor declining.

On a side note, I've always seen the "in" and "out" groups here, but I've never been sure where I belonged. I've been an occasional lurker since the .net days, but only recently actually registerred and actually started contributing. I'm not the biggest contributer anywhere, but I help where I can. I also never lurked long enough to really learn much about the forum "in" jokes. I remember seeing Erk come in, but I also don't rembmer things like why ccoa went away, or who the occasional post about "she who must not be named" is about. (If you don't understand that last one, it's probably because I only saw a couple of those, and don't remember exactly how it was worded) Anyway, that's about all I really had to say.
 
Eh I've only been around since the summer... I wish I was around more however though. I have noticed though that a lot of mods are distant unlike some of the friendlier mods that actually get out there in talk. Overall the staff is wonderful. I have noticed that the overall activity on script analysis has declined which saddens me. Games have always been slow, but their normally quite good which is always a plus.

I know what you guys mean about the new members and all. I'm still a tad bit new and I do what I can to met people on the forums in general. The best Advice I can give is just go out and post and talk to people and CONTRIBUTE what you can! We're not all Sephrothspawn or Dargor but we can still try something!

I've noticed also some good Ideas come to the board but nothing stagering... There were a few OMFG!! NO WAY! moments since I've been here but not many... A few battle systems, Netplay 2.0 that everyone tried but only wyatt got to work... That's the only thing that sucks is we don't have work togethers. It seems like one person makes it or no one dose. At the current state I'm surprised if the SDK got improved...

Besides that I've noticed nothing but up. More people talking, more post and ofcorse more people a little green but they always warm up fast.  :thumb:

I love the staff and the people here and since this is like my social life away from my very demanding social life at school. It's nice you know?

Personaly I still might be a little green to the forums but I think we've got nothing but up!

-Matt (Necro)

Happy New Years!
 
Ah well, now that I'm here, I might as well throw my input in... I'll make it quick, I promise ;)

First, I gotta say that rmxp.org and #rmxp always were like connected to my understanding, as a community picture. That means with the increasing carelessness, randomness and utter unprofessionality exercised in #rmxp by the growing majority of users, this community became more and more unattractive to me, to the point where I am now - I'm hardly reading any posts in the forums aside from Script Analysis and RGSS Support, and I'm very rarely in IRC aside from the last couple of days. If it weren't for RavenTDA and Jack, who I sometimes would've talked to on IRC, I figure I wouldn't be here at all.

I realize that my post is mostly about IRC, but yeah... that's what really made visiting .org unattractive for me.
 

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