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The Apocalypse?

Well, it's been millions and millions of years since the last asteroid-catastrophe happened. If the universe can just hold out just another forty years or so, so I can atleast be retired for a week or two, then it'll be gravy :').
 
Venetia":2p3c3b0m said:
Well, it's been millions and millions of years since the last asteroid-catastrophe happened. If the universe can just hold out just another forty years or so, so I can atleast be retired for a week or two, then it'll be gravy :').
Well... not if you count the Tunguska event.
June 30, 1908.
A meteorite of argued materials exploded roughly 4-6 miles (5-10 kilometers) above earth's surface.  No one agrees on it's size, but the measurements average between 60 meters 90 to 190 meters, or even up to 1200 meters in diameter.

Some don't count it as a "heavenly disaster" or cosmic disaster - mostly because it never hit the earth directly.  However it is considered an impact event, and is argued to have been a major impact event (had it hit).

It's explosion in the atmosphere is believed to be between 10 and 30 MT, the atomic bomb is somewhere over 3 MT (from memory - I'm slightly guessing on that one), but some argue the impact explosion could have been far higher than the possible 30 MT we speculate currently.

Though it never struck, it left a huge wave of destruction flattening trees and splintering rock, ice, etc.  It did kill.  It was even thought to be a sign of the coming end of the world by fanatics.
 

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Actually, according to the bible, trumpets will sound, fire and brimstone will rain, then it will be hell on earth for several years to come, basically.
 
Akinari":2nu43l5n said:
Actually, according to the bible, trumpets will sound, fire and brimstone will rain, then it will be hell on earth for several years to come, basically.

You should just stop now. Most people on here think the Bible is a book of fairy tales, not Inspired by God himself and therefore trustworthy. And I say this not in a judgmental fashion. Just matter of fact.

I try not to get involved in these types of discussions because it only invites ridicule, and I myself am not very knoweldgeable enough to discuss this intelligently.

However, I'd like to share a passage of a book I am currently reading that is related to this discussion. And I say this with complete seriousness and humility. I hope you may gain something from it.

In Genesis Chapters 10 and 11, God records two cataclysmic events that occurred probably about 2,000 years after the Flood. The first of these events is recorded in Genesis 10:25:


And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
An understanding of this simple citation is not developed in the Bible. However, the Scriptures do give accurate information concerning the dates of Peleg's life. Earlier in our study, we learned that Peleg was a Calendar Patriarch during his lifetime. He was born in the year 3153 B.C. and died in the year 2914 B.C.

However, in the year 3114 B.C., when Peleg was thirty-nine years of age, a cataclysmic event must have occurred. To learn about this, we will look briefly at the secular evidence.

Scientists have long theorized that at a time in the world's history, there existed just one great continent instead of the various smaller continents that exist today. It can be shown, for example, that if the edge of the South American continent is pushed against the continent of Africa, a very close fit would result. Secular scientists conclude that perhaps 150 million years ago, there existed only one continent, but over this eon of 150 million years, that original continent split and slowly moved over the ocean floor to produce the presently existing


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continents. The Biblical record of course makes the concept of 150 million years completely invalid. This continental split must have occurred in the days of Peleg because the Bible declares that “in his days was the earth dividedâ€
 
Akinari":207t79vf said:
Actually, according to the bible, trumpets will sound, fire and brimstone will rain, then it will be hell on earth for several years to come, basically.

Looks like I'll have to make like Flynn Taggart and kick some demon ass, then.
 
I watched a video something like 6 years back of the Mayan Calender. From what I recall, I don't think they actually predicted the end of the world, they just did not continue their calendar past what I think was the 26th of December 2012. Leaving it fairly open-ended like that, it's something you can interpret on your own. Why else would they have not 'finished' the calendar per se? I mean, does anybody know what happened to the Mayans? I don't, so if the value of that question is null never mind it. If they mysteriously did disappear then perhaps that's why they didn't continue it...
Or perhaps there was a prediction of another kind for that day, that.. I dunno, maybe time would be needed no more... Silly, yes. But how do we know? We weren't around 3-4000 years ago.

Mind my partial knowledge on the subject, if what I've said is wrong.
 
If we are to use the bible for reference here, the bible states that no man shall no the hour but God himself. Therefore I am not sure how anyone could use the bible to speculate when the world would end.

As far as the Mayan's go,  I seriously doubt that the world split in 3114 BC. It could as easily be any other large event. Perhaps a super eruptions, or any other grand cataclysmic event that would have ushered in the start of a new age for them. Sometimes however, foundation dates on calendars do not relate to anything astronomical, but only to something of importance to the Mayan people. Perhaps that is the date  that they came together as a people. Maybe that is the date their first ruler was crowned.

2012 being the end of an age is possible. We do stand in a volatile time when nuclear war could erupt. We could even get hit by a comet. But it would not be the end of Earth, just a great change in Earth's circumstance. Maybe however, 2012  is as far as the Mayan's could calculate? Maybe it is something as simple (though monumental) as the solar system making a full revolution around the center of the milky way?
 

Kojo

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Oh, sure, the world will end.

NOT. It is less logical than the huge non-event that kicked off this century. Anyone remember Y2K?

Ha. What a joke. It is as smart as people staying at home on 6/6/06 of last year. Just retarded. Besides, I know how the world ends, and it ends in my favor, so I don't have to worry about this.
 
Venetia":1fvtup6i said:
Just because it's old doesn't make it accurate--at all. I can draw some kinda crazy looking thing that I say is the date for when all cats will take over the world, but will anyone believe it? It could just be that the Aztec Calendar was a pretty scultpure/engraving by some artistic dude that just happened to have several coincidences about it that people have looked into too much because it's from ancient times.

Again: age does not instantly indicate wisdom. It was created in the 6th Century, B.C.E (600BC - 501BC). That was 2600 years ago. Using the general standard of "30" for generations, that's 86 generations. 86 generations of people interpreting, analyzing, re-interpreting, re-analyzing. Shit gets skewed over time and emphasis is piled up by people with too much free time. Why? It's exciting to place a whole lot of meaning into something that could very well be meaningless!

Also, consider this (and I'm impressed that I've never read anyone stating this): Maybe they quit?

The number crunchers and mathematicians of the day say, "you know, I'm tired of predicting this crap. Who's really gonna live to see past 2012 anyway? Just quit counting".

Predicting 2600 years into the future seems like a good place to just sorta give up and move on.

I mean, Windows has a calendar that goes until 2099 and then it goes back to 1980! Does that mean that on Dec. 30th, 2099, the world will come crumbling down? No, Microsoft just didn't feel like including a damn calendar that went any further than that!

People over analyze things.

OMG1! Look. There are 12 letters in my name! There are 12 birds in the sky! If you add up all the letters on page 1 paragraph 2 of "The Great Gatsby" it's 12 (dont look it up I'm B.S.'ing)! The average person in 112BC lived to be 12! OMGZ IT'S A CONSPIRACY! So let me tell my kids so they can make up more crap about this. And then their kids can. And so on.

Eventually someone says, "The world shall end on 12/12/2112" and then everybody trips out.

Seriously, anyone ever play 'telephone' as a kid?!
 
I didn't say it but I was going to write it. Guess I just didn't (probably would've been destroyed for saying so though). Great Gatsby is a fantastic book, conspiracy or no...
 
Being honest I think it's a load of utter bullshit, no Aztec prophet could predict 4 horsemen uniting to destroy the planet, I mean if anything we'll be the death of ourselves, fate is just the end result of the choices that you make, not something that is definite, thus denouncing proof of fate and that there actually is free will in this universe.

Thus the world is not going to end on 2012, so you can stop building your nuke bunkers now.
 
CIPWM74":3fhn6hra said:
Apocalypse?
Apocalypse =/= Armageddon
You're talking about Armageddon (End Of World). Apocalypse is 4 horseman yadda yadda.

Actually, Christianity refers to the Apocaypse as the End of the World, I believe. Armageddon is just another word for it. As is Ragnarok, from Norse legend. The Apocalypse IS the four horsemen, but they bring it upon the Earh. Or something along those general lines.

The end of humanity, for it is hard to believe that the Earth itself will end, will probably be caused by us. Our weapons are forever getting more powerful and destructive... soon they will grow powerful enough to have Apocalypse-like effects. Someday war will be declared, or they will fall into the wrong hands. There is no way of denying that every human wants power, some will see threats of destrction as a way of obtaining this power.

Either that or the sun will expand or implode into a black hole. Either way, the Earth's life is pretty much doomed. Earth is only able to have life because it is exactly the right distance from the sun. If the sun expands, the result could be catastrophic.

Every race has to end somehow. The dinosaurs, who (if they were still around) would probably have killed us off, were killed by a meteor, millions of which exist in our solar system alone. It is known that stars die as well, and our Sun is no different.

Basically, what I am saying, is that I'm sure life will end somehow, and I have a vague idea of how it will happen. I think, however, it will be a long time away... but you can neve be sure.
 
Still do Venetia.

I agree with her completly. Lets say I eat baby food, and drop 5 drops on the ground, and i see 5 leaves outside, 5 women walking, and 5 houses.

Holy shit, the world will end in 5 years, 5 months, 5 weeks, and 5 days.

Get the idea? Maybe it will end in 2012, no one knows. Thats why I plan to get laid before then. VENETIA CMER!!!
 
No matter which way you "flip the coin" the world would end.

If we had all religious beings, we would just take the death as a holy meaning, if we had all progressivists, we would probably be able to survive, launch ourselves into another "area" such as Andromeda, which we could live in, only problem is those 5000 years of minimal sunlight and about 30 degree weather in the 'summer' which would no longer be any season but would be a universal (lol) season. And then the Great Rip would kill us.

If we had "brutes" then we would die anyway, a lot less painfully.

Got it?
 
I don't think we should really be worrying about Armageddon. We're all destined to reach the grave some time, worrying about what time that will be seems like a waste if you ask me. About the Aztec Calender though, I think that's when they ended their calender, not because it was the year that the world is expected to end but because they simply didn't want to continue it. Other prophets like Nostradamus and another German prophet (I forget her name) claimed that the world would end around that time. It's hard to really put a date on anything like that.
 

Rain

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2012 is the end of the world.... seriously, it's the year we host the Olympic games (London) and it's going to be a disaster just as the bible has said it will be.

The 'trumpets' the big dude talks of are infact his slang word for guns, so the guns will sound from the windows of the ford escorts as they drive past shooting everyone stupid enough to be in london in 2012 :D

.... I like to think of myself as something of a prophet


(...imo lol)
 
Honestly, Im scared like hell that the world might end in 1212.I was scared in 2000 cause of Y2K.Basically, no one really knows when the world will end. Predictions can be made but, remember Predictions are just estimates.
 

Rain

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zenrdy":218cyhe6 said:
Honestly, Im scared like hell that the world might end in 1212.I was scared in 2000 cause of Y2K.Basically, no one really knows when the world will end. Predictions can be made but, remember Predictions are just estimates.

It's not worth worrying about to be honest, if it happens it happens and there is nothing you can do about it. Just spend your life actually living rather than worrying about your inevitable death :D
 

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