007snicker
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sixtyandaquarter":3byhd3p5 said:
Maybe their was only 1 hose? =D
so how was your night? me? I fought a fire...
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Maybe their was only 1 hose? =D
Mr. Thunderpussy
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whoa man, can I be your neighbour? It's a pity about the other people not taking action, but in todays society and culture, shouldn't it already be expected that only a quarter of the population would ever go out of their way to save the other 3/4?
Oh, just because this thread is called 'so how was your night?', I guess I'll answer it just to be a smartass.
I woke up at 11 am, went to school at 3;40-ish, almost got laid at a party until the girls' boyfriend turned up (what a bitch) grumbled on home and sat on the roof drinking pilsen and smoking a pack of navado's. Then at 11 pm, I got a call saying there was another party, which I turned up to. Turned out to be a whole bunch of old geezers, and my mate just wanted some company, so I sat around talking about jackshit with her for a few hours. I haven't had any sleep, so I went to my other mates house, where we got the band together and found out that in three or four weeks we have a gig, but we can't practice until our bass player comes back from the US of A in two weeks time. So we sat around watching sin cities and playing poker, which we all suck at.
Lol, but I think your night was worse.
Oh, just because this thread is called 'so how was your night?', I guess I'll answer it just to be a smartass.
I woke up at 11 am, went to school at 3;40-ish, almost got laid at a party until the girls' boyfriend turned up (what a bitch) grumbled on home and sat on the roof drinking pilsen and smoking a pack of navado's. Then at 11 pm, I got a call saying there was another party, which I turned up to. Turned out to be a whole bunch of old geezers, and my mate just wanted some company, so I sat around talking about jackshit with her for a few hours. I haven't had any sleep, so I went to my other mates house, where we got the band together and found out that in three or four weeks we have a gig, but we can't practice until our bass player comes back from the US of A in two weeks time. So we sat around watching sin cities and playing poker, which we all suck at.
Lol, but I think your night was worse.
Lol, 1 hose.007snicker":i6djrbbz said:
Now, I think this post actually presents all of us with a great question: We all say that we'd be happy to help someone in need, someone getting mugged, attack, or whatever, but how many of us would actually do it? I suppose this isn't really the sort of thing that can be answered truthfully, not even in-person, but on the internet, where lying's as easy as listing the gender in your profile as female instead of male, it's particularly difficult to see the real answer. And in truth, I'm sure that a lot of those who wouldn't actually help someone in need, but answer the opposite, are trying to be truthful, but aren't even aware of what they would do in such a situation.
I'm just rambling at this point, but I thought that this was a good discussion, so gogogogoggo! :3
(btw i totally would b/c i always help ppl :3)
I'm just rambling at this point, but I thought that this was a good discussion, so gogogogoggo! :3
(btw i totally would b/c i always help ppl :3)
I would help someone as long as it didn't endanger my own life (unless they were a loved one of mine).
If a car just crashed, I will call 9-1-1 and do whatever the operator tells me to do to help save the driver's/passengers life(s).
If a dude is getting mugged at gunpoint, yeaahhh, all I'm going to do is run off to a safe location, THEN dial 9-1-1. Because even if they didn't have guns, what the hell good could a woman do in the situation?
Like in sixty's case, yeah, i would run out and help put out the fire. I wouldn't go INTO the burning structure for any reason, but I would don my hose of justice.
I saved some kittens in a tree once, it involved my climbing up onto the roof of a house, then shimmying over some branches to get at them, then i lowered them down with one of those pool nets.
I also once pulled a little kid out of a busy street, but that was mostly just snatching him by his little overalls and yoinking him back on the sidewalk. It was funny because his mom was actually pissed at me for a minute until I told he bitch her son almost got run over because she wasn't paying attention.
I mean it's the little things you do sometimes that can make a big difference when you add it all up. Would the kittens have died if I hadn't come along? The little boy, would he've gotten squished in traffic? Who's to say? But since I was there, it was guaranteed not to happen, so that's really just common courtesy, more than heroism, I think.
Heroism is actually putting your ass on the line to help someone. Like this dude I heard about on th enews a few months back who had to swim to save these kids out in the gulf, and he saved them both, but passed out from exhaustion and drowned while saving the second (luckily they were close enough to shore for the kid to make it atleast). Or like the firefighters who go above and beyond duty to run into a burning building to save a trapped baby.
I can understand why people don't play a hero, because a lot of times, it's too risky. But refraining from simply grabbing a hose to put out a fire is just selfish and disgusting.
If a car just crashed, I will call 9-1-1 and do whatever the operator tells me to do to help save the driver's/passengers life(s).
If a dude is getting mugged at gunpoint, yeaahhh, all I'm going to do is run off to a safe location, THEN dial 9-1-1. Because even if they didn't have guns, what the hell good could a woman do in the situation?
Like in sixty's case, yeah, i would run out and help put out the fire. I wouldn't go INTO the burning structure for any reason, but I would don my hose of justice.
I saved some kittens in a tree once, it involved my climbing up onto the roof of a house, then shimmying over some branches to get at them, then i lowered them down with one of those pool nets.
I also once pulled a little kid out of a busy street, but that was mostly just snatching him by his little overalls and yoinking him back on the sidewalk. It was funny because his mom was actually pissed at me for a minute until I told he bitch her son almost got run over because she wasn't paying attention.
I mean it's the little things you do sometimes that can make a big difference when you add it all up. Would the kittens have died if I hadn't come along? The little boy, would he've gotten squished in traffic? Who's to say? But since I was there, it was guaranteed not to happen, so that's really just common courtesy, more than heroism, I think.
Heroism is actually putting your ass on the line to help someone. Like this dude I heard about on th enews a few months back who had to swim to save these kids out in the gulf, and he saved them both, but passed out from exhaustion and drowned while saving the second (luckily they were close enough to shore for the kid to make it atleast). Or like the firefighters who go above and beyond duty to run into a burning building to save a trapped baby.
I can understand why people don't play a hero, because a lot of times, it's too risky. But refraining from simply grabbing a hose to put out a fire is just selfish and disgusting.
Would I do it, if necessary? Hells yes.
I know that if I was in that type of situation, had the ability to help and yet didn't, I wouldn't be able to live with myself. Would I hose down a burning car? Absolutely.
Would I run into a burning house to save somebody? If I had adequate protection - i.e. glasses, gloves and a multitude of wet towels, and the knowledge that the building wasn't a complete hazard that would collapse any second, absolutely. Anyways, it's always better to die in aid of others than to live knowing you could have saved someone but didn't out of fear for personal inconvenience.
I know that if I was in that type of situation, had the ability to help and yet didn't, I wouldn't be able to live with myself. Would I hose down a burning car? Absolutely.
Would I run into a burning house to save somebody? If I had adequate protection - i.e. glasses, gloves and a multitude of wet towels, and the knowledge that the building wasn't a complete hazard that would collapse any second, absolutely. Anyways, it's always better to die in aid of others than to live knowing you could have saved someone but didn't out of fear for personal inconvenience.
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Yeah...I could say that too. I've no doubt that you'd actually do that. But I could easily say I'd jump into a burning building to save a child, or risk my life to rescue someone from drowning. But would I actually do it? I can't say. That situation's never happened to me before, so I've no idea what I'd do. Would I run? Watch? Risk my life to save someone? It's impossible for me to say.
I'd like to think that I would, though.
I'd like to think that I would, though.
People often like to believe they'd risk their ass for a total stranger, but when it gets down to the moment, it's a whole new world.
And actually, making dangerous risks to save someone can sometimes just end up making the situation WORSE if you're not properly trained/prepared. (if you run into a burning building to save someone, it's probably just going to end up adding to the casualty totals!!!) Hence the reason why firefighters/police/EMTs spend so much time training and why they're saddled with so much safety gear.
But honestly, in Sixty's story's case, there just really is just no excuse for all those people to be so wary :/
And actually, making dangerous risks to save someone can sometimes just end up making the situation WORSE if you're not properly trained/prepared. (if you run into a burning building to save someone, it's probably just going to end up adding to the casualty totals!!!) Hence the reason why firefighters/police/EMTs spend so much time training and why they're saddled with so much safety gear.
But honestly, in Sixty's story's case, there just really is just no excuse for all those people to be so wary :/
Oh, absolutely. However, I know that given the choice I'd have to do it, since otherwise I'd probably end up contemplating ritual suicide for failing to do my duty anyways.ven":1l6j6iaa said:
Oh, absolutely. That's why I mentioned only going in if I was sure it would work out. Needless suicide is dishonorable and stupid. Also I've done mild training for disaster relief and a whole bunch of other shit so I'd like to think I'm at least slightly more capable of that than your average sheeple.
I'd help, not to be altruistic, but because shooting water at stuff that's on fire is fun :thumb:
(I'd be going "Blastoise Hydro-pump!!" yeah... awesome...)
Seriously though, I don't think you all are considering the desensitized factor. Nowadays most people are familiar with accidents through the media, but when it happens in real life people become staring drones. It's not "SHIT A CAR'S ON FIRE!!" it's "Wow, a car fire, like on 24." It's also the responsibility factor, and that it was 4am and they could've been really tired (not the best excuse, yes people are dicks.)
I think you guys are being pretty naive to assume you'd immediately jump in to help, at least most of you. Hell, if a house or a baby is one fire that's one thing, but most of those people probably thought the fire might spread as far as the asphalt and then die out. I wouldn't give up hope on humanity, just move somewhere with people who're more close-knit and attached to reality. Or go someplace to see an accident and observe people helping. /shrug
(I'd be going "Blastoise Hydro-pump!!" yeah... awesome...)
Seriously though, I don't think you all are considering the desensitized factor. Nowadays most people are familiar with accidents through the media, but when it happens in real life people become staring drones. It's not "SHIT A CAR'S ON FIRE!!" it's "Wow, a car fire, like on 24." It's also the responsibility factor, and that it was 4am and they could've been really tired (not the best excuse, yes people are dicks.)
I think you guys are being pretty naive to assume you'd immediately jump in to help, at least most of you. Hell, if a house or a baby is one fire that's one thing, but most of those people probably thought the fire might spread as far as the asphalt and then die out. I wouldn't give up hope on humanity, just move somewhere with people who're more close-knit and attached to reality. Or go someplace to see an accident and observe people helping. /shrug
ixis":2q9b50of said:
I actually agree with you on that. It's easy to say "Yeah, I'd be the first to help!" when you're not actually in that situation, but what you think/want to think you'll do is oftentimes much different from what you actually do.
In a less severe example, after my sophomore year in high school, I had a 3.5ish GPA and told myself that I was going to work hard to make all A's the next year so that I would have a better chance of getting a full ride to college. Junior year comes around, and guess what I got on my report card the first semester? An A, a B, and two C's (admittedly, those were very high C's, but...). I fully believed at the end of my sophomore year that I WAS going to try hard and I WAS going to get all A's the next year, but I ended up doing the opposite and focused more on relaxing and having fun during and after school.
I even told myself the same thing for the next semester, but I ended up getting a D in English for the first half (ironically, I got a pretty high A in German...). I was able to pull that D up to a high B by the end of the semester after my mom started threatening my freedom if I made less than a B, but you guys get the picture.
I do applaud you, 60, for jumping into action, though.
sixtyandaquarter
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I always thought I wouldn't help the total stranger, or play with the possibility of getting hurt to help someone. I've sat there and watched gang punishments and let it go, and told others not to get involved. Cops questioning, gang unit and I'm quiet. For some reason I see a line there, that's somehow different from some random person I don't know (above mentioned example, I knew everyone involved).
But every time it's come up, despite the fact that I laughed and said I wouldn't do shit - I kind of end up doing things. It's weird, I'm like some kind of demented bastard D:
I help the strangers, whom I've never seen
I help the people I really, really like and enjoy
Everyone else? The people I know but aren't really super friendly with - friendly mind you, even very friendly with, just not super friendly with... fuck'em
But every time it's come up, despite the fact that I laughed and said I wouldn't do shit - I kind of end up doing things. It's weird, I'm like some kind of demented bastard D:
I help the strangers, whom I've never seen
I help the people I really, really like and enjoy
Everyone else? The people I know but aren't really super friendly with - friendly mind you, even very friendly with, just not super friendly with... fuck'em
It's probably because you project the benefit of the doubt on people you don't know. They have the potential to be not jackasses so they could use some help. The people you know and aren't fond of however don't get the same treatment because in your mind you probably see them as undeserving?
My theory.
My theory.