Revenge of the PS3

[CERU]

Considering the fact that the wii is lacking solid quality titles in its future lineup is suggesting to me that the system is a joke to developers, or at least that they're not taking it seriously.

So if anything the PS3 will be in 2nd place. In other news, after Final Fantasy and Metal Gear and such, what next? I'd like to see games like Parasite Eve 3 and Siren 3 being made for the system, but the problem is I can't see developers taking any risks in next gen. And thats why I can see future releases sinking into a pool of mediocrity - it costs too much to make games, so whats tried and true will prevail.

Thats why I'd LIKE to see the wii do well, to see some more obscure and original titles, but the system doesn't seem like it will last after 2009.

A hardcore gamer is someone that chooses Halo over life, FF over sex & WoW over marriage (Even though many people DO get married in WoW ... wow).

Thank god I'm not  a hardcore gamer.

 

[Kaoii]

No, check it up on the net, and the PS3/XBOX 360 Videos on YouTube.

Trust me, I had to watch alot of videos and read alot of articles to know which one to pick, but I got both anyway so it doesn't matter to me haha.

Err no, you're wrong. Here are the PS3 specs:
http://playstation.about.com/od/ps3/a/P ... ails_3.htm

The bandwidth is 25GB/s, not the RAM.

 

[Jason]

Lol thats probably what it was, knowing me, I would've been drunk while reading, haha.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Silly me eh ?
:thumb:

 

[united washcloth express]

http://gizmodo.com/357311/its-official-toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd

This is what Sony has been waiting for. The objective wasn't to take out the competition with video games. The objective was to take out the competition with force with Blu Ray. The fact of the matter is that BRD holds more space than an HD disk, which means that developers can add more content into their games and movies. This is why shared games sometimes have more content on the Playstation 3.

All Sony had to do was make the BRD standard. Now that corporations like Wal-Mart and Toshiba have switched to BRD, it looks as if Sony has knocked off Microsoft. To those nay sayers, use Google to find the official response. I would find it, but I have to write this accursed essay.

 

[Danton Lavergne]

No, Playstation 3 is the worst console on the market, and is ran by an idiotic company. Your little Final Fantasies won't have a say on my opinion either. Let me just fill you in on some of the stuff the PS3 has done, and will do in the future.

For all of you few that might know, Assassin's Creed was supposed to be a PS3 exclusive game. Ever wondered why it's released on the 360? It turns out the developers of Assassin's Creed, created the game for the 360 console being a lot easier, and quicker to do. Once created, they would simply port it to the PS3. They got caught doing this, thus they were forced to release the game to the 360 console as well. This isn't even the worst. Burnout Paradise was supposed to be the revolutionary; graphic amazement filled, game. It turns out they used 360's own Forza cars and graphics to advertise their game! Like, how stupid is that? It just screams out that their console is so shitty, they need to rely on their competition to do everything for them.

And now the best for last. As you all know, there's two versions (maybe three) of the PS3, the 40 and the 80 GB. There very well might be a 60GB, but I'm not included in the console's stupid way of thinking. Anyways, they decided to no longer sell the 80GB version of the PS3 which is the only version that allows backwards compatibility. This means, that you will no longer be able to play sony's only good console (PS2) games! How stupid is that?

And as for the whole "PS3 live is free". Only 25% of the PS3 games have online playability, compared to 96% for 360 games. And seriously, what good games does the PS3 have lined up for us; Afrika? You really want to waste your time walking around looking at hippos? I, for one think it's the stupidest thing ever thought of. Even for Sony, they have should higher standards than that.

I mean, you can defend your poorly created console all you want. The only reason you're doing so is because you or one of your friends own it. And Sony bribing Warner Brothers with insane amounts of money, doesn't prove a thing. It just shows that it's a final attempt to get back in the race.

 

[Jason]

Serenade, how can you be so harsh on something like this ? It's a console, not a way of living, I really don't know why people should argue about this, firstly, if you haven't noticed, the 360 is doing better at the minute because it's been out much longer, remember when it first came out ? There were like 5 games, and OMFG, King Kong was one of them, how shitty for a first release, eh ?

Now, about the 40GB not having backwards compatibility ? Actually my friend has one (We're from UK, might be different), and it plays all of his PS2 games, I don't know what it's like in the US though so I can't really disagree with that.

About the Final Fantasies, I'm sorry to say, but they're like one of/the best selling RPG Franchise of the Modern day, Square has been very successful with them, and I've heard ALOT of people say their buying a PS3 just for FF13 and FFV13.
MGS4, MGS games have been the best shooting/stealth based games ever, when it is released, which is VERY soon, there will be alot more sales for the PS3, remember when MGS2 came out ? Well here in the UK there were people camping outside for a week just to get a copy, and it sold shitloads !

Also, if you say that Halo 3 beats every PS3 game (Not saying your going to say that, but it's amazing how many people think that), then, well, your kind of wrong, UT3 is out/coming out, and theres rumors of it being put onto the 360, but a year later, It would have already been bought, played, traded in, and forgot about by the time it's out on the 360, and people just won't be bothered for it anymore.

I know my post is more towards the PS3, as it's my favourite out of all 3 (I got them all anyway, so meh), I just don't see how people can argue like this about them, does it really matter which comes out the best ? You play games for fun, not to get laid or be popular.

 

[Kaoii]

For all of you few that might know, Assassin's Creed was supposed to be a PS3 exclusive game. Ever wondered why it's released on the 360? It turns out the developers of Assassin's Creed, created the game for the 360 console being a lot easier, and quicker to do. Once created, they would simply port it to the PS3. They got caught doing this, thus they were forced to release the game to the 360 console as well. This isn't even the worst. Burnout Paradise was supposed to be the revolutionary; graphic amazement filled, game. It turns out they used 360's own Forza cars and graphics to advertise their game! Like, how stupid is that? It just screams out that their console is so shitty, they need to rely on their competition to do everything for them.

Those individual games were developed by companies separate from the one you have classed as being idiotic. If anything, you should be calling those particular companies "idiotic" as well.

And now the best for last. As you all know, there's two versions (maybe three) of the PS3, the 40 and the 80 GB. There very well might be a 60GB, but I'm not included in the console's stupid way of thinking. Anyways, they decided to no longer sell the 80GB version of the PS3 which is the only version that allows backwards compatibility. This means, that you will no longer be able to play sony's only good console (PS2) games! How stupid is that?

You're a bit misinformed about the console versions, as you clearly did no research before posting this. I'll fill you in. Both the 20GB and the 60GB have PS2 hardware built-in. This is part of the reason why they were so expensive at launch. This allows for perfect emulation for both of those versions. The other versions of the console use software emulation, which also works very well.

Also, as being a Microsoft fan yourself, I doubt you are the one to talk about backwards compatibility issues considering how many the Xbox 360 has had. More games work with the PS3's software emulation than the 360's.

And as for the whole "PS3 live is free". Only 25% of the PS3 games have online playability, compared to 96% for 360 games. And seriously, what good games does the PS3 have lined up for us...

Xbox created games are required by Microsoft to have some Live compatibility, even if it amounts to absolutely nothing. Take Fable as a good example. The majority of games with Live compatibility do absolutely nothing with it (barring online points, but the PS3 is getting a system like this in Spring). All of the games that take advantage of the PS3's online support use it to a certain extent instead of simply wasting disc space.

I mean, you can defend your poorly created console all you want. The only reason you're doing so is because you or one of your friends own it. And Sony bribing Warner Brothers with insane amounts of money, doesn't prove a thing. It just shows that it's a final attempt to get back in the race.

I don't think I'll have to defend myself if I call you a fanboy after this statement. My opinions are unbiased, as I own all three consoles.

 

[Jason]

I'm siding with Kaoii, Serenade is being really biased, and yup, he's definately a fanboy !

 

[Kaoii]

I'm siding with Kaoii, Serenade is being really biased, and yup, he's definately a fanboy !

You're as biased towards the PS3 as he is towards the 360 =P

 

[Jason]

Not really, you see, he is siding with the 360 and badmouthing the PS3, so it's only fair that someone does the same to him, their both good systems, But I just think it's stupid that these "fanboys" have to argue all the time, you know the reason I'm not a fanboy or not biased to any ? Because I actually looked forward to all of the systems, and own all three of them, and play each the same amount, haha.

The only thing I won't do is pay for XBOX Live, not because I can't afford it, but because, if you think about it, you bought the console, they should atleast give you online for free, thats what Sony has done, and Playstation Online is actually great, except due to my back connection I lag out in the middle of matches, but meh, it's still good.

Microsoft should really stop being money hoggers and just follow all the rumors, make Live free !, but meh, I guess I could just say...Wii... ?

Lol, the funny thing with this thread, theres people argueing about PS3 and 360, I've only seen the Wii mentioned a few times, not majorly either.
I guess it'll have it's time to shine with SSBM, I'm looking forward to that game too, oh, and also
Soul Calibur: Legends, you people should YouTube it, I think it looks really good.

 

[Danton Lavergne]

Well, like I said. I'm not all that knowledgeable in the PS3 area, although I firmly believe the graphics are better on the 360. A very good (unbiased) comparison can be found here. No matter what anyone says though, the 360 will always have a better overall online experience. Look it up anywheres.

The amazing titles 360 has, is really overwhelming. Bioshock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Dead Rising, Ace Combat 6, the list goes on. The PS3 highly relies on MGS and FF. Even you, every-console-owning Kaoii, have to admit that. :tongue:

 

[Yggdrassil]

No matter what anyone says though, the 360 will always have a better overall online experience.

Uh, what? Who says a game can't come out exclusively for PS3 that blows the online gaming world away? Don't make assumptions like this.

 

[Kaoii]

There is no question that the 360's online service is at this point better than PS3's, mostly due to the fact that it is run by the world's wealthiest corporation and is grudgingly funded by its users.

However, the true potential of the PSN is about to be realized. The releases of LittleBigPlanet and PSN Home are coming soon, and they will both radically change the way that the PS3 is used.

The true potential of the PS3 system is also about to be realized. As a system, it is undeniably more future-proof than the 360 is. It has not been plagued with the same issues (RRoD) as the 360 has (even though, as you claim, it is a poorly created console).

The 360 has more killer-games simply because it has been out longer, even you, Serenade, have to admit that. :P

 

[Jason]

Ah, Dead Rising, now that IS a great game, I love it, lol.

However, FF and MGS aren't the only games that will be great, LAIR was exclusive, and put awesome use to the six axis controller, and look in the Video Game thread for my topic
"Little Big Planet - Discussion", I posted some YouTube videos on that, and I think it is going to be an amazing experience.
Theres also Gran Turismo 5, which I think, the series has done alot better than PGR and Forza.
Like I said before, UT3, which is better than Halo 3 by far, but will be on the 360 in a year anyway.
There'll be other games I haven't mentioned, like Haze, which also looks like a great FPS for PS3.

About the graphics, yes, at this moment in time, I will admit that the graphics are equal, and a little better on the 360, However, graphics get better over time, the first PS2's graphics compared to God of War 2, you'll see the difference.
The 360 has been out two years, while the PS3 has been out, well I'm not quite sure, about almost a year over here.
So at the moment the 360 DOES have better graphics, but the PS3's will overtake as more people discover BluRay and how to properly use it to their advantage while making games.

 

[Danton Lavergne]

No matter what anyone says though, the 360 will always have a better overall online experience.

Uh, what? Who says a game can't come out exclusively for PS3 that blows the online gaming world away? Don't make assumptions like this.

You have no idea what I'm even talking about. I'd suggest no longer posting here until you actually read a little instead of siding with anything related to japanese games.

It has not been plagued with the same issues (RRoD) as the 360 has (even though, as you claim, it is a poorly created console). The 360 has more killer-games simply because it has been out longer, even you, Serenade, have to admit that. :P

The stats of consoles with RRoD have greatly lowered. There always will be problems releasing a console, just like how the PS3 could hardly run any PS2 games on its first firmware. And yeah, sure the 360 has been out alot longer, but my thoughts still reside on the fact that the console was just thrown in overly-expensive; too advanced for its own good hardware. We'd have to wait at least 3-4 years before we actually start seeing some good exclusive games, unlike Afrika...

 

[Yggdrassil]

I've read every single post in this topic, Serenade.

In your blatent fanboyism you remarked the the XBOX 360 would always have a better overall online experience, and I remarked that you were simply guessing that good games would continue to flow to the system while the others' online never challenged it, if not defeated it.

I remarked that any day now a game could come out for the PS3 (or even the Wii!) that would have better online than your precious Halo. If you can't see that the XBOX isn't god, maybe you should hold off on posting here until you go and play some PS3 and Wii for a change.

 

[Danton Lavergne]

I've read every single post in this topic, Serenade.

In your blatent fanboyism you remarked the the XBOX 360 would always have a better overall online experience, and I remarked that you were simply guessing that good games would continue to flow to the system while the others' online never challenged it, if not defeated it.

I remarked that any day now a game could come out for the PS3 (or even the Wii!) that would have better online than your precious Halo. If you can't see that the XBOX isn't god, maybe you should hold off on posting here until you go and play some PS3 and Wii for a change.

You've used the word remarked more times in one post that I have ever seen inside any thread. If you actually read (which you still haven't), I'm talking about the way the whole online system works, not on how good the online gameplay is.

 

[Kaoii]

Let's not try to turn this into a mindless over-defamatory argument :P.

The stats of consoles with RRoD have greatly lowered. There always will be problems releasing a console, just like how the PS3 could hardly run any PS2 games on its first firmware.

I'm sorry, but your information here is wrong. The PS3 on release was backwards compatible with almost every single PS2 title made. The only glitches with backwards compatibility lied in upscaling, which was fixed after two days. This is hardly on the same scope that the RRoD is on.

And yeah, sure the 360 has been out alot longer, but my thoughts still reside on the fact that the console was just thrown in overly-expensive; too advanced for its own good hardware. We'd have to wait at least 3-4 years before we actually start seeing some good exclusive games, unlike Afrika...

The PS3 was not overpriced when it was released. It was actually a steal, and for the matter, still is. Most BDR players when the PS3 was released priced at almost a thousand dollars. The PS3 is much more than a BDR player and at launch its most advanced model priced for 600$. Sony lost millions because of the underpricing. At the present, the average BDR player retails for 600$.

 

[Danton Lavergne]

I'm sorry, but your information here is wrong. The PS3 on release was backwards compatible with almost every single PS2 title made. The only glitches with backwards compatibility lied in upscaling, which was fixed after two days. This is hardly on the same scope that the RRoD is on.

I remember reading somewheres, the 1.6 firmware had a lot of issues with the whole backwards compatibility aspect. Do you have live btw?

 

[Kaoii]

I remember reading somewheres, the 1.6 firmware had a lot of issues with the whole backwards compatibility aspect.

The only things 1.6 glitched were MPEG2 HD playback and a few third-party headsets. Both problems were quickly fixed. Backwards compatibility has never been compromised in any firmware update. If anything, updates 1.5-1.6 were the updates that actually perfected the system's backwards compatibility.

Do you have live btw?

I had an Xbox Live account when I still played Halo 2, but I stopped paying for it after I softmodded it.