President Obama used conversational hypnosis in his speeches

[shrub74]

So what if he did? Americans still voted for him and he's Prez, did playing Scissors Paper Rock with himself in front of everyone do that?

Hell Effin' Naw

Opinions did that.

 

[JoshieBoy]

I agree with Dadevster. Before I voted for Obama, I looked at all that he promised, his ideas and plans, and compared them to McCains. I liked Obamas plans better and voted for him. I didn't even listen to his speeches.

 

[Wolfgang]

haha oh wow

I second that, and I would also like to state that I voted for Obama (in a state that didn't give him any electoral votes) and the fact that you're getting fooled by this bullshit is just sad proof that your subconcious got fooled by not Obama, but the people who made that video. Deep inside you have a problem with him being president. I won't point out the cause of this, but I'm sure we all know what it is.

(p.s. MukanshinBlack, your avatar looks like it's from planet of the apes...? )

 

[Dissonance]

I won't point out the cause of this, but I'm sure we all know what it is.

niggers

 

[mawk]

For those who know little of the subject, I see how it'd be hard to come to terms with.

you are 20 years old and have listened to two or three accounts of this sort of thing. you are not an expert in conversational hypnosis.

 

[Star]

I won't point out the cause of this, but I'm sure we all know what it is.

communist

The reason I didn't vote for him or any democrat is clear. I don't like rules from big government that control my life. It's against what this country stood for. And if you think Socialism isn't Communism. You clearly haven't done enough research. Maybe you want to be ruled by a Dictator that makes my decisions on how you manage your life, but I sure don't.

 

[Kav]

I won't point out the cause of this, but I'm sure we all know what it is.

niggers

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to report this post to a mod.

 

[boon]

haha oh wow

 

[mawk]

And if you think Socialism isn't Communism. You clearly haven't done enough research.

:|

socialism isn't communism. socialism is the state of a completely government-controlled economy (equality and all that,) while communism is the state of government-controlled everything. basically, dictatorial socialism. there's a reason they're separate terms. both of these are way past the scope of obama's economic plans. I'd say canada is still way more socialist, and neither country has a dictatorship going on.

so two things:

don't talk about barack obama you might be old enough to vote but it's obvious you didn't pay any attention to the issues aside from what the Fox pundits were shouting

this is the barack obama conspiracy thread not the lame rehashed Fox argument thread.

 

[Dissonance]

I don't like rules from big government that control my life.

But this is what republicans do. They just do it under the guise of Christian morals.

 

[Venetia]

Both sides have agendas to control your life.
Democrats want to rule your life monetarily.
Republicans want to rule your life socially.
Neither of them are right.

 

[Ellie]

Tha's why you vote third party

 

[Incognitus]

These are not the droids you're looking for.

 

[MukanshinBlack]

I really only watched the first minute or less of the video to see if it talked about Obama and hypnotism. I didn't get pulled into this because of that video. If I knew it started talking about Hitler and whatnot I wouldn't have linked it and made this look like a conspiracy theory. ~_~

And miek, I didn't just read two or three opinions of people saying "Obama used hypnotism": I tried to see some speaches that he did on youtube (since I hardly watch TV) and see for myself if he was using techniques NLP practitioners use.

In any case, this topic is opionated, and I thought more people were open to the idea that hypnotism and suggestion exist but I overestimated the number. So guys, take from this what you want. I wanted to throw this out there for those who believe in suggestion and didn't know.

 

[mawk]

it's not that people don't believe in suggestion. it's that we don't think that obama tried to hypnotize America into voting for him. what you call "conversational hypnosis" is just a set of techniques for speechwriting.

 

[MukanshinBlack]

Well, hypnosis reinforces ideas. If someone was thinking "I may or may not vote for Obama", and was taken in by his speaches and suggestions, they're more likely to think 'may' over 'may not'.

And yes, most politicions use some form of conversational hypnosis but from what I've seen Obama used more then usual. (I may be wrong but it's my opinion)

 

[Kav]

If you're admitting it's a standard political technique, why would this make you reconsider voting for Obama?

 

[MukanshinBlack]

The common political technique is "talking fast throwing out facts and information in such a great detail that when they speaker says something slow and clear, the people are relieved and more open to it". There is no true standard, and pacing-and-leading along with amplication of emotions, embedded messages, and anchoring is some things I've seen and read Obama make, and that isn't common at all.

Also I should edit things in the first post, like the video and then some, but I don't feel like it.

 

[Star]

you all have really stupid political opinions that don't reflect any sort of reality other than garbled popular misperceptions

no really

hey nice anime/japanese gaming culture reference in your post! maybe we can trade some pokemon cards while we talk about yaoi and economics.

every berries is the only person in this thread with any sort of connection to realistic political opinions. mukanshinblack do you have asperger's or something or are you just really dumb? are you seriously taking some paranoid ron paul survivalist moron's forum post in which he analyzes hand gestures as a serious reason to reconsider the way you voted?

are you aware that every single thing he lists as evidence of his hand movements is part of everyday effective public speaking? repeating phrases that are the cornerstone of a campaign message is brainwashing? really?

Hey. Nice quoting my whole post and pointing out one part of it. I have a red gyarados trading card with a shiny holographic seal. Can I borrow your Sailor Moon Collection?

There is no such thing as a realistic opinion, Cause an opinion is an opinion and not always based on fact. There for how can it be made real?

The Skull and Bones is a real organization, not something made in a video game or fairy tale anime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones
There was just a lot of conspiracy theories derived from this. Whether you believe them or not is all a matter of opinion. Your opinion is no more real than mine

I am very well aware that all politicians use some sort of hand gestures and keywords to make people vote for him. I don't feel bad about who I voted for, cause I didn't vote for him in the first place.

 

[Zeriab]

Of course it's opinionated M.Black when you are showing us a video which uses the techniques it tells you are oh-so-bad.
The intention behind the video is indeed to make us opinionated.