Perception

[Mars]

I didn't know another place for this...


Anyways- Let me explain.


What makes people have different personalities?  What makes a person an angry person, or one with a short temper for no reason whatsoever?
years ago I thought, what if every person saw colors differently?

Think about colors not visually, but as if they were letters...

-Jim is a normal happy guy, he has an "A" color set.  He visually sees blues as blues, reds as reds...

-Jeff is easily angered, and often unhappy.  He has a "B" color set.  He visually sees blues as reds, and reds as blues.

Each color has a Visual and Feeling Represention.  We'll say, Blue has a "A-Calm" representaion, and Red has a "B-Angry" representaion.

-Jim, visually sees "A" and feels calm.

While

-Jeff, vissually sees "B" on blue (making it a red) and will be Angry.

There'd be no way to prove this, however, because every eye is taught what colors are what, and understand such thoughts.


I dunno, maybe I'm going crazy. =D

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

I could've sworn this thread existed (twice now?) and was closed both times.

The general idea I'm getting is you mean to say something along the lines of a color coordinated personality.  I seeing the color green, am calmed yet if I saw the color orange I'd be on edge?  I'm not getting this whole color A and color B stuff, your making it sound like what's red for you is green for me, etc.

As far as color personality codings if that's what you're talking about, some people are affected by environment color.  I myself absolutely hate orange rooms.  It really creeps me out.  I can not stand being in a room or anything with lots of orange in it - it is possibly my least favorite decoration choice.  However orange alone doesn't make me agitated.  Being in a solid orange room is fine.  Just when there are bright colors all along my peripheral in segments, not as a solid, I get agitated.  Orange was just the easiest to notice.

 

[Samboy]

I can't say with any sense of certainty that it would be color. In what way should we be affected by the color of things? Why would this be programmed into our genes? We are not like bees and butterflies: we don't flit around from flower to flower identifying scents and colors. We're humans, we don't get emotions from colors. We hunt animals and eat plants. I guess eating red plants means no or something, but that doesn't always hold true.

Colors are basically illusional eg. having a purple outdoor area/bedroom gives the feeling of space. This is because of light absorbency/reflectance. So I guess what it comes down to is light, not color.

 

[Dissonance]

There's a cool theory that every person out there actually sees a different set of colours than every other person but because colours can't be described in any way other than their names nobody ever realizes it.

Like I look at the sky, see the colour 'blue' and think the concept 'blue'.  But another person's eyes may be different.  They will have been taught that the concept of the sky's colour is 'blue' but in actuality, the sky that they see is what I would call 'red'.  A person could be seeing what I would consider to be purple grass, red skies, yellow water, but think that they're all normal colours because it's what they were born with and have grown up seeing.

As for colours relating to personality.... no :P

 

[Stardust]

I've often thought, "I wonder if there is a completely new color that we can't see..."  It's hard to imagine, yet it's probably very possible.  It's also possible that we all see colors differently because there isn't any way to tell if there's a difference.  When we learn, "This color is blue," we're memorizing that color as blue, whether it's the blue that everyone else sees or not, and then relate blue accordingly.  There isn't really any way to visually express it and it would be very hard to explain what a color looks like without using any references.  I don't think it has anything to do with personalities, though.

 

[seven]

I don't think it has anything to do with personalities, though.

Same here.
  -KRoP

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

Look at color theory.
You have a color wheel, etc.  The only way people see different colors is if the colors are opposite, or one off (and even then...).  So some people look at blue and see a red, and others would see a green.  That's the only possibility - forget that some people do see a blue as a bit of a green (I think it's actually visa versa - but still).  Well, I shouldn't say the only possibility.  You could be a freak.  Likewise the whole system might only make sense to some, whereas others - such as those who don't know how to chose colors for example, see opposites.  But even then.

 

[tai]

Heh, I've come up with this theory myself too. It's all possible, and just thinking about it is interesting, but I don't think it'd be very useful, since I think that people associate 'Feeling-Representations' with colours from experiences, and not what that certain wavelength(s) appears to them as. So back to your colour set example, I think its definitely possible that there are different colour sets, but I argue that Jeff was once traumatized by a blue towel while in the water under clear skies which is what made him associate anger with the physical colour blue.

 

[Ellie]

I've often thought, "I wonder if there is a completely new color that we can't see..."  It's hard to imagine, yet it's probably very possible.  It's also possible that we all see colors differently because there isn't any way to tell if there's a difference.  When we learn, "This color is blue," we're memorizing that color as blue, whether it's the blue that everyone else sees or not, and then relate blue accordingly.  There isn't really any way to visually express it and it would be very hard to explain what a color looks like without using any references.  I don't think it has anything to do with personalities, though.

All a colour is is a "graphical representation" of the electromagnetic spectrum, for lack of a better term.

It goes something like this:

Longwaves > Shortwaves > Microwaves > Visible Light > X-Rays > Gamma Rays

In the visible spectrum you have:

Infrared | red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet | Ultraviolet

In theory, some people could evolve to be able to see infrared or ultraviolet as actual colours. That's the closest you'll get to "new colours" however.

 

[Necrile]

When I posted this, I got nothing but rude comments and it got closed

Anyway, you can never tell; and you never will be able to tell. We all could be seeing colors differently and nobody would ever know.

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

No we would know.  A color wheel alone proves this.

Yellow is like orange is like red.
Green is like blue is like purple.

Unless we tipped it one over:
Green is like yellow is like orange
Yellow is like green is like blue
etc

Or reversed it so that the opposites of the wheels flip perfectly, such as red becomes green, blue becomes orange, etc, we would know.  Look at this wheel:
http://projects.cbe.ab.ca/AlexFerg/show ... Wheel1.jpg[/img]
Now I'm going to assume your seeing it the same way I am.  Because if it was just random, then blue would not be next to blue-green, which would not be next to green.  They would be random.

If they are slightly skewed, that's a real thing.  I forgot what it's called, but it's like playing with the tint on your computer monitor or TV.  If blue and blue green look the exact same it's called color blind, we know these things and can test them.  If colors were different for everybody these things would not work, because even the invert of many color blind tests only work in their original state.

The blue dots with dark green squiggles and the reddish dots that make a 5, and you have to see the 5 - if the color scheme was skewed you can still see that, the darker greens become a darker blue, it's a form of color blindness.  If reversed, even though you would think you wouldn't see it either if you were color blind, it's actually viewable.

The wavelengths of light reflected aren't picked up differently, they simply aren't picked up in total in the end result.  The color is lost, the wavelength is not portrayed.  You would need a whole different sight method to see a blue as a red.  Outside of color blindness and skews, there is no theory, just fun little thought bubbles.

 

[eharper256]

Yeah, sadly, though this is an fun theory, the way that the electromagnetic spectrum works procludes it from ever happening. My Blue is always your Blue unless you've got some very frackin' weird retinas that somehow misreport what frequency of light they're seeing. (Colour blindness is probably something like that, but whatever...)

However, your theory ~sort of~ works in considering how we associate a colour. Someone with a negative experience of blue may be terrified of it, allowing an opposite effect of what it is typically associated with (Calm and Sadness).

Something which I do find interesting about perception, however, is how your senses supplant themselves upon one another.

When I'm walking through traffic, and hear a car coming from behind, it is almost as though I see the ghostly shape from its vibration. I sense its speed, and my feet lock in place if I were to be in danger just as if I'd seen something approaching.

Or another example: Something can look far more repugnant than usual simply because it smells bad. This is evidenced in the fact that prank turds and things typically only keep you off balance for a second before your senses evaluate that, actually, thats not a turd.

You might notice these assume the other senses build upon sight. It is no secret that this is the humans base sense; as our smell and hearing are lame in comparison to other creatures. Which begs the age old question of 'What does the blind man see?'