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Just got a new graphics tablet...

...And didn't do as well as I expected... Then again, this is my first picture with the tablet, so I'm still trying to get used to it.

http://fc63.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/304/b/b/Tanya___1ST_PEN_TABLET_ART_by_Sparx_1.jpg[/img]

If anyone has any advice for me on future use of my tablet, please tell me! I'll be practicing with it for now...
 
Learn hotkeys. The pen gives me awful cramps because of the way I hold pencils, and pressing buttons with it just doesn't cut. but hotkeys also exponentiate your speed at drawing.

Just keep drawing with it, it just becomes second nature like a stylus.

Oh, right. When I got my tablet the first advice ever given to me, and currently the most accurate and useful is that the tablet does not make you better as an artist. You need to know what you're doing on paper to know what you're doing on the computer.
 
she should have wider hips imo

also the face is absolutely fucking horrible and looks totally OFF compared to the rest which isn't so bad

also shadiw with actual colors don't just dodge/burn
 
Shadow_Strike":3j3k01rf said:
When I got my tablet the first advice ever given to me, and currently the most accurate and useful is that the tablet does not make you better as an artist. You need to know what you're doing on paper to know what you're doing on the computer.

Yeah, I know that. I'm good at drawing on paper, but I suck at drawing with a mouse. That's why I got the tablet in the first place ^^;
 
Sparx-1":17uwhrgz said:
Shadow_Strike":17uwhrgz said:
When I got my tablet the first advice ever given to me, and currently the most accurate and useful is that the tablet does not make you better as an artist. You need to know what you're doing on paper to know what you're doing on the computer.

Yeah, I know that. I'm good at drawing on paper, but I suck at drawing with a mouse. That's why I got the tablet in the first place ^^;
That includes color. Which you, from that picture you posted, don't have the faintest grasp.
Dodge and burn? More like... you need to learn.

Don't smudge to shade, don't dodge and burn (which is also black and white). Use different hues, it'll look less unnatural. Skin has something called subsurface scattering. Skin is naturally partially translucent, when light hits the skin, the skin absorbs but the light is refracted under the skin, which makes the skin look red when you shade. Red, not black.

http://www.skinvue.net/images/SSS.jpg[/img]
 
Shadow_Strike":1i22t62n said:
Don't smudge to shade, don't dodge and burn (which is also black and white). Use different hues, it'll look less unnatural. Skin has something called subsurface scattering. Skin is naturally partially translucent, when light hits the skin, the skin absorbs but the light is refracted under the skin, which makes the skin look red when you shade. Red, not black.
http://www.skinvue.net/images/SSS.jpg[/img]

Wow... I didn't know this. Looks like I really do need to learn! XD

Where can I find a collection of strategies and stuff like this?
 
Okay, I took your advice and shaded it with shades of red... How does this look?

http://fc34.deviantart.com/fs34/f/2008/304/5/a/Tanya___1ST_PEN_TABLET_ART_by_Sparx_1.jpg[/img]
 
Looking better but you need more of a subtle change in tone.

You're using photoshop?

I'll give you my brush settings.

-80 opacity 80 flow for putting down base colors
-40 opacity 50 flow for putting in shades and things
-20 opacity 20 flow for blending colors

The only real keys I alternate between are: B, E, [], and ALT
b=Brush tool
E=Eraser
[]= Makes brush bigger or smaller
ALT=Color picker that ways you can get those nice mid tones in between.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/6/52931/Tanya___1ST_PEN_TABLET_ART_by_Sparx_1.jpg[/img]

Although you have to mind my shitty ass 3 minute paint over. Of course thats how I go about it. You just really gotta practice with colors and find a coloring style that you like.

Oh yeah if you don't like me painting over your stuff then tell me and I'll take it down.

But yeah like Des said the face doesn't match the body at all. The body is okay but it seems like you didn't really try with the face. :/

Keep at it mate though my first drawings with my tablet were complete shit you'll get better. :thumb:
 
Sparx-1":4jo0xnch said:
Shadow_Strike":4jo0xnch said:
Don't smudge to shade, don't dodge and burn (which is also black and white). Use different hues, it'll look less unnatural. Skin has something called subsurface scattering. Skin is naturally partially translucent, when light hits the skin, the skin absorbs but the light is refracted under the skin, which makes the skin look red when you shade. Red, not black.
http://www.skinvue.net/images/SSS.jpg[/img]

Wow... I didn't know this. Looks like I really do need to learn! XD

Where can I find a collection of strategies and stuff like this?
Check the stickies, I made a thread a long time ago that documented this stuff.
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=13179.0
 
Okay, I just finished a new one.. How's this?

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/305/e/b/Rayla___Pen_Tablet_pracitice_2_by_Sparx_1.jpg[/img]
 
Your tones look better.

Your anatomy and faces need A LOT of work.

Especially the face. Hrmmm study photos of people.
It'll help you in the long run I guarantee it mate. :thumb:

Are you into butch chicks?
 
Thanks for the advice Makasu. And about the "butch chicks" comment, sorta... ^^;

Anyway, for a bit of proof that I'm better at drawing on paper...
http://fc94.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/222/f/4/Jessica__Lauren_and_Amber_by_Sparx_1.jpg[/img]

By the way, I think the main reason I mainly have a problem with anatomy is because I often have trouble coming up with poses... Usually I find myself just starting with parts of the character and randomly adding the other parts in positions without thinking about them first...
 
I see.

Thats generally how I go about drawing. Thats the point of an initial sketch. I go through so many poses just to finally decide on the most cliche one. :/ and well if you're decent on paper just practice more and more. This was my first tablet drawing

http://fc60.deviantart.com/fs31/f/2008/208/c/1/Tablet_Training_2_by_Sanparuzu.jpg[/img]

It was downright horrible. But with practice and things you'll eventually get to being as comfortable using a tablet like its paper.

Invest in painter. Maybe thats what you need.
 
There's nothing wrong with the faces, but the bottom half of the arms and the hands are too wide in your drawings. Nice detail on the belt and hair!
 
Cirras":uihcpb9b said:
There's nothing wrong with the faces, but the bottom half of the arms and the hands are too wide in your drawings. Nice detail on the belt and hair!

Are you serious?

Sorry to say this but those faces are downright hideous. Well not entirely. But they aren't as great as they should be. I thin kits partially because they use a minimalistic approach [[very minimum at that]] as to the rest of the drawing. Sorry to tell you this my friend but you need to work on your faces more than anything now.
 
It's Manga. Sure, it's not that realistic, but it doesn't have to be. Although I did just notice that the head might be a little wide.

Also, you can't compare it to manga examples and say "The eyes are too big" or "The nose is wrong" because there are styles within manga. Seeeee?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Modernanime.jpg[/img]
 
Cirras":wc14gh82 said:
It's Manga. Sure, it's not that realistic, but it doesn't have to be. Although I did just notice that the head might be a little wide.

Also, you can't compare it to manga examples and say "The eyes are too big" or "The nose is wrong" because there are styles within manga. Seeeee?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Modernanime.jpg[/img]

No, its crappy drawn face manga. See how that works? It being manga doesn't excuse badly drawn faces.

Dont' get style confused with ability or skill. Phil Foglio (google him if you don't know) draws in a cartoony style of way, but his lines, his proportions, his understanding of physical properties and volume and shape shows that he's a professional.

Artists know how to draw the real before they can draw the unreal.

I'll say it right now, the drawings look fly swatted and flat. The only way to cure that is with more practice of real people and stuff.
 

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....It's kind of weird.....
because I found it is girl, but her body looks like a man.
even girls with muscles didn't have body shape like that.....
and her hair shapes are too weird.
 
Cirras":2klxvxu5 said:
It's Manga. Sure, it's not that realistic, but it doesn't have to be. Although I did just notice that the head might be a little wide.

Also, you can't compare it to manga examples and say "The eyes are too big" or "The nose is wrong" because there are styles within manga. Seeeee?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Modernanime.jpg[/img]

I don't think you have an understanding of what "bad" and "manga" is. The fact of the matter is that just because you give it big eyes, little noses and small mouth doesn't automatically make it "anime" or a face for that matter. As Shadow stated [[thank goodness he did as well]] the faces need lots of work. Among other things. Realistic or not a face needs to follow some sort of principle or at least show an understanding of how the face is constructed. Or hell just match the damn style of the rest of the drawing!
 

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